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Subject: Frankie "confirms" LD planet is a planet

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It looks Forerunner, so I'm going with Forerunner. You can see Forerunner glyphs on the planet in the H3 version of the planet.

As far as the evil goes, that is debatable

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It looks Forerunner, so I'm going with Forerunner. You can see Forerunner glyphs on the planet in the H3 version of the planet.

As far as the evil goes, that is debatable


we have known it was forerunner since the end of halo 3, and the forerunners aren't evil unless something changed.

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Posted by: grey101
despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that


Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.

[Edited on 07.18.2011 11:06 AM PDT]

  • 07.18.2011 11:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that


Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.


No...

  • 07.18.2011 11:08 AM PDT

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What do you mean "No..." ? What I'm saying IS true.

  • 07.18.2011 11:17 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: the real Janaka

Posted by: grey101
despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that


Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.

You're a -blam!- idiot.

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Posted by: the real Janaka

Posted by: grey101
despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that


Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.

You're a -blam!- idiot.

And why is that exactly?
EDIT: or are you a blind Bungie fanboy who'd say that everything Bungie's done is flawless and perfectly thought through and crafted?


[Edited on 07.18.2011 11:24 AM PDT]

  • 07.18.2011 11:20 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: the real Janaka

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Posted by: the real Janaka

Posted by: grey101
despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that


Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.

You're a -blam!- idiot.

And why is that exactly?

Because you don't know what you're talking about. Reach's trailer was completely scrapped? Aside from some pieces of dialogue and the Covenant ship not seen in the sky, it wasn't changed that much.

Seriously, why would they change it to a ship?

Posted by: the real Janaka
EDIT: or are you a blind Bungie fanboy who'd say that everything Bungie's done is flawless and perfectly thought through and crafted?


LOL, are you serious?

[Edited on 07.18.2011 11:26 AM PDT]

  • 07.18.2011 11:26 AM PDT

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What sense does a spaceship make when they blatantly showed you an enormous planetoid at the end of Halo 3?

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: the real Janaka

Posted by: grey101
despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that


Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.


please explain to me the illogical logic of trying to find a loophole in something that is stated while taking everything that is indirectly stated as a fact.

Frankie says its a planet then it is a planet. dunn. there are no if ands or buts about it

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Posted by: the real Janaka

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: the real Janaka

Posted by: grey101
despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that


Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.

You're a -blam!- idiot.

And why is that exactly?

Because you don't know what you're talking about. Reach's trailer was completely scrapped? Aside from some pieces of dialogue and the Covenant ship not seen in the sky, it wasn't changed that much.

Seriously, why would they change it to a ship?

Posted by: the real Janaka
EDIT: or are you a blind Bungie fanboy who'd say that everything Bungie's done is flawless and perfectly thought through and crafted?


LOL, are you serious?


Yes I'm serious, if someone calls me an idiot...

And i begg to differ. None of this ever happened in the final Reach story line. The Covenant were'nt revealed to the ONI by a space station spotting an anomaly, they were so by Noble team finding them on the planet, hence, the entire announcement teaser story line, was scrapped.

  • 07.18.2011 11:35 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: the real Janaka
It's a teaser trailer...hence it is meant to get the word out on the game and give it some hype, not start the story.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: the real Janaka

Posted by: grey101
despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that


Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.


please explain to me the illogical logic of trying to find a loophole in something that is stated while taking everything that is indirectly stated as a fact.

Frankie says its a planet then it is a planet. dunn. there are no if ands or buts about it


Sure, the thing in the teaser is a planet, I'm not denying that.. What I am saying on the other hand is that, if you take Bungies tradition of not following up on their announcement trailers, whatever that thing is, could end up being changed.

I've been to these forums for a far too long time to not know that hardly any 100%, completely solid statements and proof, heve ended up being true.

Speculation is fun, but I'd never rule anything out before the bloody game is released.

  • 07.18.2011 11:41 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: the real Janaka

Sure, the thing in the teaser is a planet, I'm not denying that.. What I am saying on the other hand is that, if you take Bungies tradition of not following up on their announcement trailers, whatever that thing is, could end up being changed.

I've been to these forums for a far too long time to not know that hardly any 100%, completely solid statements and proof, heve ended up being true.

Speculation is fun, but I'd never rule anything out before the bloody game is released.


343 Industries is not Bungie, why would they do what Bungie used to do?

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: the real Janaka

Posted by: grey101
despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that[/quote]

Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.[/quote]
You're a -blam!- idiot.[/quote]
And why is that exactly?[/quote]
Because you don't know what you're talking about. Reach's trailer was completely scrapped? Aside from some pieces of dialogue and the Covenant ship not seen in the sky, it wasn't changed that much.

Seriously, why would they change it to a ship?

Posted by: the real Janaka
EDIT: or are you a blind Bungie fanboy who'd say that everything Bungie's done is flawless and perfectly thought through and crafted?


LOL, are you serious?


Yes I'm serious, if someone calls me an idiot...

And i begg to differ. None of this ever happened in the final Reach story line. The Covenant were'nt revealed to the ONI by a space station spotting an anomaly, they were so by Noble team finding them on the planet, hence, the entire announcement teaser story line, was scrapped.


It was a teaser why can't people understand that? the point it got across was that chief is back, cortana is alive, and they are going to the planet. That is it.

Frankie said it himself that the teaser is correct but it won't happen in that way. things like armor changes will (or should) be explained.


And majority of the dialogue in the reach trailer was still used for the game. the teaser was going directly off the book, something that was also scrapped for the game.

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Posted by: the real Janaka
It's a teaser trailer...hence it is meant to get the word out on the game and give it some hype, not start the story.


Exactly.

Therefore.. Whatever Frankie said.. Could very well be true, now. Doesn't mean it'll end up being true when the game is released, and that's what counts. All speculations that aren't speculated upon in the hopes of being the actual canon, are useless.

  • 07.18.2011 11:44 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: the real Janaka

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: the real Janaka
It's a teaser trailer...hence it is meant to get the word out on the game and give it some hype, not start the story.


Exactly.

Therefore.. Whatever Frankie said.. Could very well be true, now. Doesn't mean it'll end up being true when the game is released, and that's what counts. All speculations that aren't speculated upon in the hopes of being the actual canon, are useless.

The Halo 4 trailer wasn't a teaser, it was the announcement trailer and such trailers have shown what was in the game. Why would Chief go towards a planet in Halo 3 and not in Halo 4?

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: the real Janaka


despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that[/quote]

Well, I still wouldn't be so sure, I mean, I do think that it is a planetiod of some sort, and not a ship, but I don't believe a word from either MS nor Bungie. Bungie has NEVER been true to any of their announcement teasers/trailers, they've ALWAYS changes something. Sometimes just a little, like Halo 2, and sometimes a lot, like Reach for instance, they scrapped the entire thing!

We'll still have to wait and see whether 343 will act the same way or actually follow up on the teaser.

What I'm saying is just that they could just as well change from a planetiod to a space ship.. Or not even have that sequence at all.[/quote]

please explain to me the illogical logic of trying to find a loophole in something that is stated while taking everything that is indirectly stated as a fact.

Frankie says its a planet then it is a planet. dunn. there are no if ands or buts about it[/quote]

Sure, the thing in the teaser is a planet, I'm not denying that.. What I am saying on the other hand is that, if you take Bungies tradition of not following up on their announcement trailers, whatever that thing is, could end up being changed.

I've been to these forums for a far too long time to not know that hardly any 100%, completely solid statements and proof, heve ended up being true.

Speculation is fun, but I'd never rule anything out before the bloody game is released.


1. 343 is making the game

2. You can be on the bungie forums for 10 years and never come to the universe forum. Which it seems like

3.and several have been true such as snakies rainbow theory and miranda being the daughter of halsey (which was an extreme longshot i am surprised hit). majority of the theories that were common sense were true, same as this "theory"

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grey101

You're still not getting me. I've never denied that it isn't a planetoid, nor that the Chief ending up on it, if false. What I am saying -again- is that your way of presenting it, is a bit meaningless.

"despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that"

What's that supposed to mean+ What people are doing is speculating. As you said yourself, about Halsey and, etc.. Shots in the dark that ended up being true.

The planetoid ending up being something else is a completely valid theory, until proven wrong by the actual game, not a spokesperson.

And yes, I've been to this forum before.. But now I'm reminded of how it actually was here -__-

  • 07.18.2011 11:58 AM PDT

'That's no moon (planet), it's a space station.'

  • 07.18.2011 11:59 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: the real Janaka
grey101

You're still not getting me. I've never denied that it isn't a planetoid, nor that the Chief ending up on it, if false. What I am saying -again- is that your way of presenting it, is a bit meaningless.

"despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that"

What's that supposed to mean+ What people are doing is speculating. As you said yourself, about Halsey and, etc.. Shots in the dark that ended up being true.

The planetoid ending up being something else is a completely valid theory, until proven wrong by the actual game, not a spokesperson.

And yes, I've been to this forum before.. But now I'm reminded of how it actually was here -__-


No, if you want to speculate, you need proof to back your -blam!- up.

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Posted by: the real Janaka
grey101

You're still not getting me. I've never denied that it isn't a planetoid, nor that the Chief ending up on it, if false. What I am saying -again- is that your way of presenting it, is a bit meaningless.

"despite 99 percent of us already knowing this

So no more of "1t5 a sh1p" and other stupid stuff like that"

What's that supposed to mean+ What people are doing is speculating. As you said yourself, about Halsey and, etc.. Shots in the dark that ended up being true.

The planetoid ending up being something else is a completely valid theory, until proven wrong by the actual game, not a spokesperson.

And yes, I've been to this forum before.. But now I'm reminded of how it actually was here -__-



They aren't speculating.

Looking at the size of that thing and saying it is/could be a ship is stupidity.

Saying the planet is reach or earth is stupidity.

And the theories were not shots in the dark. 1 monitor is blue and another is green thus all monitors must be a different color! That was common sense logic that snakie used.

The Miranda idea was based off the relationship of halsey and keyes and how much time they spent together. thus somebody suggested they might have hooked up and ten years later they were right.

The planet is a planet end of discussion, if you don't like logic or common sense you can go to the waypoint forums

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@ DecepticonCobra

So, if someone happens to find evidence that it's a ship and not a planetiod, would that be out ruled by Frankie's statement?

And oh..
343 hasn't had a record of changing what's happens in an announcement teaser/trailer or whatever, they don't have a record at all.. But 90% -yes those numbers are pulled out of nowhere- of all announcement teasers I've ever seen have ended up being changed. That's fairly common in the game industry.

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