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Subject: Artifact at Sigma Octanus IV....

Expressing my strong liberal views without shame. Favorite quotes below:

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What's its purpose now in the Halo canon? Bungie retconned the the fact that it was the artifact Cortana used to find coordinates to Installation 04, as that was the data module which Cortana decrypted on Reach.

Bungie, you're beginning to annoy me beyond belief...

  • 07.16.2011 9:42 PM PDT

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I believe the Sigma Octanus artifact in conjunction with the Babd Catha artifact helped give Cortana the star chart to Alpha Halo. Works for me personally.

  • 07.16.2011 9:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

It has no point now.

halo was suppose to be found by humans on a whim, cortana used the coordinates because that would be the only time to test them.

Now in reach they changed it to her needing some random forerunner thing to get the coordinates (in the book she got them nearly ASAP but couldn't translate anything else) and then they went to halo HOPING to find something important there to change the war.


It completly shattered the point of the entire storyline.

[Edited on 07.16.2011 10:06 PM PDT]

  • 07.16.2011 9:46 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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If anything, the Sigma Octanus artifact could've made the calculations of the Babd Catha artifact more accurate.

  • 07.16.2011 9:48 PM PDT

Expressing my strong liberal views without shame. Favorite quotes below:

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

- Albert Einstein

I've been trying to throw Bungie some bones here, but I can't do it anymore. I've tried to clear up the timeline, and have an open mind, but this just does it for me at least.

I'm glad 343i is moving away from this bull-blam!-. It's time we entered a new time period in the canon where it isn't convoluted beyond repair.

  • 07.16.2011 9:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
If anything, the Sigma Octanus artifact could've made the calculations of the Babd Catha artifact more accurate.

Yes, I suppose so, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense. The coordinates were on the Sigma Octanus (SO) artifact, why was it necessary to have the Reach artifact now?

Bungie wanted to tie up CE and Reach so badly that they completely destroyed this point in the canon. I thought my unified timeline would help solve things, but this is just inexplicable to be honest.

  • 07.16.2011 9:51 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Plasma Prestige

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
If anything, the Sigma Octanus artifact could've made the calculations of the Babd Catha artifact more accurate.

Yes, I suppose so, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense. The coordinates were on the Sigma Octanus (SO) artifact, why was it necessary to have the Reach artifact now?

Bungie wanted to tie up CE and Reach so badly that they completely destroyed this point in the canon. I thought my unified timeline would help solve things, but this is just inexplicable to be honest.

It does seem like a horrible retcon huh? Still, using both or one as a cross reference could be a smart move. Halsey HOPED the BD artifact would work, using the SO artifact and seeing it matches with the BD artifiact, or vice versa, could work.

  • 07.16.2011 9:53 PM PDT

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"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Plasma Prestige

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
If anything, the Sigma Octanus artifact could've made the calculations of the Babd Catha artifact more accurate.

Yes, I suppose so, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense. The coordinates were on the Sigma Octanus (SO) artifact, why was it necessary to have the Reach artifact now?

Bungie wanted to tie up CE and Reach so badly that they completely destroyed this point in the canon. I thought my unified timeline would help solve things, but this is just inexplicable to be honest.

It does seem like a horrible retcon huh? Still, using both or one as a cross reference could be a smart move. Halsey HOPED the BD artifact would work, using the SO artifact and seeing it matches with the BD artifiact, or vice versa, could work.

It fits, you've got that right, but here's what doesn't make sense at all.

At the end of the game when Halsey is giving that horrible narration about how we saved humanity and what not, she says we found Halo because of Noble Six.

That's a load. Even if the BC artifact was used only to verify the SO artifact, it didn't directly lead to the discovery of Halo, because Halo's coordinates had already been discovered.

  • 07.16.2011 9:57 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Plasma Prestige

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Plasma Prestige

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
If anything, the Sigma Octanus artifact could've made the calculations of the Babd Catha artifact more accurate.

Yes, I suppose so, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense. The coordinates were on the Sigma Octanus (SO) artifact, why was it necessary to have the Reach artifact now?

Bungie wanted to tie up CE and Reach so badly that they completely destroyed this point in the canon. I thought my unified timeline would help solve things, but this is just inexplicable to be honest.

It does seem like a horrible retcon huh? Still, using both or one as a cross reference could be a smart move. Halsey HOPED the BD artifact would work, using the SO artifact and seeing it matches with the BD artifiact, or vice versa, could work.

It fits, you've got that right, but here's what doesn't make sense at all.

At the end of the game when Halsey is giving that horrible narration about how we saved humanity and what not, she says we found Halo because of Noble Six.

That's a load. Even if the BC artifact was used only to verify the SO artifact, it didn't directly lead to the discovery of Halo, because Halo's coordinates had already been discovered.


ONI's got to make their heroes.

  • 07.16.2011 9:59 PM PDT

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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

- Albert Einstein

N6 is an unnecessary Halo.

  • 07.16.2011 10:03 PM PDT

I always thought it was used by the covenant to find delta halo.

[Edited on 07.16.2011 10:10 PM PDT]

  • 07.16.2011 10:06 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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I liked Noble Six, lots of background potential in the character. But that's just me.

  • 07.16.2011 10:06 PM PDT

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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

- Albert Einstein


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
I liked Noble Six, lots of background potential in the character. But that's just me.

He was a fine addition, but his role was unnecessary.

  • 07.16.2011 10:14 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Plasma Prestige

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
I liked Noble Six, lots of background potential in the character. But that's just me.

He was a fine addition, but his role was unnecessary.

Do what I do, blame ONI.

=)

  • 07.16.2011 10:15 PM PDT

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The Long Night of Solace was at Sigma Octanus IV.

  • 07.16.2011 10:19 PM PDT

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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

- Albert Einstein

Posted by: Spartan 100
The Long Night of Solace was at Sigma Octanus IV.

Really? Source? Significance?

  • 07.16.2011 10:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Spartan 100
The Long Night of Solace was at Sigma Octanus IV.


Source? becuase i asked you this last time and you never gave it

  • 07.16.2011 10:30 PM PDT

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Wait, it sais arriving at Reach shortly after the battle for Sigma Octanus IV. I'm not sure if that means it was in the battle but I assumed so.

  • 07.16.2011 10:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Spartan 100
Wait, it sais arriving at Reach shortly after the battle for Sigma Octanus IV. I'm not sure if that means it was in the battle but I assumed so.


How do you get that confused?

That is no different than saying "I get home shortly after gamestop closed".

It is establishing a timeframe for when the ship got to the planet. so trying understanding the context of what is said before you going around stating sourceless conjecture.

  • 07.16.2011 10:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan 100
Wait, it sais arriving at Reach shortly after the battle for Sigma Octanus IV. I'm not sure if that means it was in the battle but I assumed so.


How did you take that statement and come to the conclusion that it meant 'The Supercarrier came from Sigma Octanus IV'.

It was just plainly stated that it arrived within Reach's system shortly after the battle concluded. No where does it even suggest that it came from that very same battle.

  • 07.16.2011 10:52 PM PDT

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Good question.

  • 07.16.2011 11:42 PM PDT

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Really? How does the data recovered by Reach take away from the randomness of finding Halo?! What did it suddenly announce LOOK HERE! THERES A HUGE RING SHAPE WORLD WITH PARASITES AND MYSTERIES AND ALL THIS BLAM!!! Seriously now I'm just facepalming at the -blam!- you guys complain about...this is almost as bad as that guy complaining about the AR.

[Edited on 07.16.2011 11:46 PM PDT]

  • 07.16.2011 11:45 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
Really? How does the data recovered by Reach take away from the randomness of finding Halo?! What did it suddenly announce LOOK HERE! THERES A HUGE RING SHAPE WORLD WITH PARASITES AND MYSTERIES AND ALL THIS BLAM!!! Seriously now I'm just facepalming at the -blam!- you guys complain about...this is almost as bad as that guy complaining about the AR.


Be quiet. You don't even understand post-Halo 3 events, you don't understand the situation, I doubt you could anyway.

  • 07.16.2011 11:48 PM PDT

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Really? What exactly don't I understand? Am I not connect some kind of line that leads to the invalidation of all possible ideas? As for post H3 events I doubt even you know for sure what can possibly happen. In fact I doubt you even really are open to them anyways. At this point I see no way that the events that occurred at sig. have become useless thanks to Reach. Sure Reach at many points to be fixed...and some decent WTFs but this IS NOT one of them and is really only a problem based on your personal preference.

  • 07.16.2011 11:59 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: L KOLIEAN L
Really? What exactly don't I understand? Am I not connect some kind of line that leads to the invalidation of all possible ideas? As for post H3 events I doubt even you know for sure what can possibly happen. In fact I doubt you even really are open to them anyways. At this point I see no way that the events that occurred at sig. have become useless thanks to Reach. Sure Reach at many points to be fixed...and some decent WTFs but this IS NOT one of them and is really only a problem based on your personal preference.


So wiping away the reason Cortana found Halo in the beginning with no explanation isn't a problem?

  • 07.17.2011 12:01 AM PDT

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