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Subject: Bloody end at Russian school.
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If you have been keeping up, today the school was sieged, the roof collapsed, and at least a hundred dead. Go here.

  • 09.03.2004 6:59 AM PDT
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Earlier, British ITV television said its cameraman saw up to 100 bodies in the remains of the school gym, where most hostages had been held.

Interfax news agency said dozens of people had been killed in a roof collapse at the school. It said an emergency services worker was among the dead.


Well thats news worth telling... good way to start the morning.

-blam!- >:( I'm sad I was stupid enough to read the whole thing.

  • 09.03.2004 7:04 AM PDT
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yea, and also a storm the size of texas is over the caribbean right now, and heading towards me in teh days to come, beh.....

  • 09.03.2004 7:11 AM PDT
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Targeting a school full of children.... The Russians should take the gloves off and clean sweep Chechnya.

  • 09.03.2004 2:43 PM PDT
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I wante to avoid this subject...

  • 09.03.2004 2:47 PM PDT
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thats horrible..... this is giving russians a bad image.

look out! here comes freedom fighters 2!

[Edited on 9/3/2004 2:53:47 PM]

  • 09.03.2004 2:49 PM PDT
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I think it was handled well.

It could have been a LOT worse.

  • 09.03.2004 2:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
I think it was handled well.

It could have been a LOT worse.


ya, but it could have been ALOT better. it was NOT handled well. you dont storm a building rigged with bombs!!!! i agree that their demands where outrageous, and reasoning was near impossible, but it could have been handeled alot better. just because the captors are dead doesnt mean it was succesful. they said over 150 kids died, and many more probably will in hospital. it was NOT handeld well.

  • 09.03.2004 3:09 PM PDT
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Yeah and Mr.Bob could've vmarried Micheal Jackson. I don't know what I just said either so stfu

  • 09.03.2004 3:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: johny joe
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
I think it was handled well.

It could have been a LOT worse.


ya, but it could have been ALOT better. it was NOT handled well. you dont storm a building rigged with bombs!!!!


The special forces heard an explosion. They had to assume the worst that the terrorists we starting to kill people. They went and blew holes in the building to let as many people out as possible. They did the right thing.

i agree that their demands where outrageous, and reasoning was near impossible, but it could have been handeled alot better. just because the captors are dead doesnt mean it was succesful. they said over 150 kids died, and many more probably will in hospital. it was NOT handeld well.

It WAS handled well. Unlike in video games, you can't save all the hostages. They say over 1,000 people were held captive - a 1/6 death ratio is pretty damn good.

  • 09.03.2004 3:15 PM PDT
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Actually, it was a combination of kids and adults who died.


But yes, it could've been better.

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Now I feel REALLY bad for my blood fetish.

Edit: Crap, she turns me on. My moral grounding is telling me it's wrong to think that, given her state, and I'm having a confliction.

*pounds his head with his fists*

[Edited on 9/3/2004 3:37:43 PM]

  • 09.03.2004 3:16 PM PDT
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Then again, it could've been worse.


Considering everything, I think they did well.

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ya, they did well. but they rushed it in my opinion.

  • 09.03.2004 5:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: johny joe
ya, they did well. but they rushed it in my opinion.


Would you have preferred they waited longer?

The children were drinking their own urine. The people were dying. If they had to put it off it couldn't have been for much longer.

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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: johny joe
ya, they did well. but they rushed it in my opinion.


Would you have preferred they waited longer?

The children were drinking their own urine. The people were dying. If they had to put it off it couldn't have been for much longer.


nothing you say will convince me rushing into that situation is good.

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Posted by: johny joe
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: johny joe
ya, they did well. but they rushed it in my opinion.


Would you have preferred they waited longer?

The children were drinking their own urine. The people were dying. If they had to put it off it couldn't have been for much longer.


nothing you say will convince me rushing into that situation is good.


Cognitive dissonance - the only method an incompetent can use to hold his position.

[Edited on 9/3/2004 5:57:03 PM]

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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: johny joe
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: johny joe
ya, they did well. but they rushed it in my opinion.


Would you have preferred they waited longer?

The children were drinking their own urine. The people were dying. If they had to put it off it couldn't have been for much longer.


nothing you say will convince me rushing into that situation is good.


Cognitive dissonance - the only method an incompetent can use to justify his position.


can we stop? ppl actually DIED here! lets stop with our petty discussion and show some respect (im to blame also)

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Posted by: johny joe
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: johny joe
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: johny joe
ya, they did well. but they rushed it in my opinion.


Would you have preferred they waited longer?

The children were drinking their own urine. The people were dying. If they had to put it off it couldn't have been for much longer.


nothing you say will convince me rushing into that situation is good.


Cognitive dissonance - the only method an incompetent can use to justify his position.


can we stop? ppl actually DIED here! lets stop with our petty discussion and show some respect (im to blame also)


Diverting, are we?

  • 09.03.2004 5:59 PM PDT
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yes i am.

  • 09.03.2004 6:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: johny joe
thats horrible..... this is giving russians a bad image.


Umm... You, sir, are a fool.
Czechnia is after independence and as such the Russians have being bombing the -blam!- out of the country, murdering civilians, etc etc for years... but you know what? They cover it up... They don't want teh world involved in their internal affairs. The 'terrorists' involved in this incident are the 'Black Widows', a group formed almost entirely of women who have lost husbands and children and everything else they hold dar because of what the Russians are doing to their country.
I'm not saying their right in what they did, but I AM saying that the Russians are WRONG in what they are doing. I haven't hard the list of demands made on the Russians but I would assume somewhere in there it involved something like "Get the hell out of our country".
The first bomb blowing was an accident. It was unavoidable, but then in the ensuing chaos more and more people died.
And if you wish to argue the point of the Russian cover-ups... there was a reporter live in the school after the first explosion, his camera man got into the gymnasium and managed to get a few pictures before being carried off and beaten by the police and armed forces and having his equipment confiscated... Gee... That sounds normal... *sarcasm*
So, I'm not saying any of you are wrogn, but make sure you know the facts before you start making decisions about things.

  • 09.03.2004 6:05 PM PDT
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That's right. My plumage is brighter than yours.

Posted by: Assassin B
If you have been keeping up, today the school was sieged, the roof collapsed, and at least a hundred dead. Go here.


Oh hell! I thaught this might end with a negotiation or something. Damn terrorists. Thnx for the update

  • 09.03.2004 6:46 PM PDT
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I feel so depressed right now becuz of it

  • 09.03.2004 7:24 PM PDT