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Subject: John is wearing MK 7 in Halo 4.

"It will not be we who reach Alpha Centauri, and the other nearby stars, it will be a species very like us, but with more of our strengths and fewer of our weaknesses, more confident, far-seeing, capable, and prudent. For all our failings, despite our limitations and fallibilities, we humans are capable of greatness."-Carl Sagan

Want to know how I know? Look in Halsey's journal no thruster pack is listed as a MK6 design concept. But if you look at MK7, it has:


Next-gen fusion-plasma hybrid power system.
Atmospheric insertion systems.
Slipspace de-insertion capability.
Active AI transfer protocols.
Limited shaping of the energy shield.


Now these Atmospheric insertion systems really seem like those thrusters in the trailer.



[Edited on 07.19.2011 2:45 PM PDT]

  • 07.19.2011 2:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.

and the germans had plans for a space station in WW2 and that obviously never happened.

  • 07.19.2011 2:48 PM PDT

"It will not be we who reach Alpha Centauri, and the other nearby stars, it will be a species very like us, but with more of our strengths and fewer of our weaknesses, more confident, far-seeing, capable, and prudent. For all our failings, despite our limitations and fallibilities, we humans are capable of greatness."-Carl Sagan


Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?

  • 07.19.2011 2:51 PM PDT

I'll believe you...

As soon as you explain to me how he will get it.

  • 07.19.2011 2:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


Stop taking the teaser frame by frame.

Frankie said everything will be explained in the game and he doesn't just wake up with all this going on like that.

It is the same armor just with different parts, much like the hands being changed from halo 2-3 but nobody noticed.
The suit is just getting more accurate graphically as it always as, and logically i assume he will pick up the thruster pack after he wakes up

  • 07.19.2011 2:55 PM PDT

"It will not be we who reach Alpha Centauri, and the other nearby stars, it will be a species very like us, but with more of our strengths and fewer of our weaknesses, more confident, far-seeing, capable, and prudent. For all our failings, despite our limitations and fallibilities, we humans are capable of greatness."-Carl Sagan


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Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


Stop taking the teaser frame by frame.



Nothing wrong with rampant speculation.

  • 07.19.2011 2:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: I Nebula I


Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.

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But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?[/quote]

Stop taking the teaser frame by frame.



Nothing wrong with rampant speculation.


when doing it off a teaser that was said not to be taken frame by frame, yes.

Wait until PAX and hope for an official trailer, then i will speculation alongside you.

  • 07.19.2011 2:59 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Mark VII never even entered the testing phase, he can't have it.

  • 07.19.2011 3:08 PM PDT

"It will not be we who reach Alpha Centauri, and the other nearby stars, it will be a species very like us, but with more of our strengths and fewer of our weaknesses, more confident, far-seeing, capable, and prudent. For all our failings, despite our limitations and fallibilities, we humans are capable of greatness."-Carl Sagan


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Mark VII never even entered the testing phase, he can't have it.


Looks like Maria is out of a job.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Mark VII never even entered the testing phase, he can't have it.


Looks like Maria is out of a job.


And Black team tested it even before her.

  • 07.19.2011 3:23 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Black Team and Maria didn't have mark VII armor did they? I know Maria tested Chief's armor in Halo 2 and Black had a prototype armor variant, but they don't have VII.

  • 07.19.2011 3:28 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Black Team and Maria didn't have mark VII armor did they? I know Maria tested Chief's armor in Halo 2 and Black had a prototype armor variant, but they don't have VII.


Nope, Mark VII is never said to gotten past Halsey's Journal.

Besides, how would Chief get it? As I said in my last post, it's the major flaw. They never give a good reason for Chief getting it.

  • 07.19.2011 3:30 PM PDT

The trailer was CGI, not at all part of the game. It is just a teaser. Hopefully all will be explained. Halo fest is coming up so more info will be released then.

  • 07.19.2011 3:40 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

But there is no good explanation for new MJOLNIR armor in Halo 4.

  • 07.19.2011 3:42 PM PDT

That's all well and good, but there's still one problem. How the hell did he get it while he was in the cryo-chamber?

  • 07.19.2011 3:50 PM PDT


Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


All MJOLNIR armor variants had zero-gee thruster packs.

  • 07.19.2011 4:10 PM PDT

Oh hey there

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It's a metaphor for the 07s' lack of identity. too old to be newfa­g, yet too new to be oldfa­g, we wander b.net in search of a home, forever trying to be something we are not.

Teasers are not meant to be canon. That isn't the first scene of the game. It's just there to get us all up in a tizzy about the upcoming game.

  • 07.19.2011 4:13 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


All MJOLNIR armor variants had zero-gee thruster packs.


Really? So because we've only seen it but once in one trailer on Mark 6 all MJOLNIR now has Zero-gee thruster capability?

You know the thruster pack would have been so useful during the invasion of earth when chief went and "returned" the bomb to the Covenant warship. I mean he could have used it to steer himself out of harms way. I mean unless your implying Chief's a moron and never knew he even had that stupid little feature.

  • 07.19.2011 4:15 PM PDT

IcanHazSausage

I sell Graphic Designs.

If interested, contact me.

In the OXM, they state that there is a reason for te grenade pistol, and reason for the upgraded armour, and a reason for the ZERO G BOOSTERS!

We will find out in a couple of weeks. (Maybe)

  • 07.19.2011 4:15 PM PDT


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


All MJOLNIR armor variants had zero-gee thruster packs.


Really? So because we've only seen it but once in one trailer on Mark 6 all MJOLNIR now has Zero-gee thruster capability?

You know the thruster pack would have been so useful during the invasion of earth when chief went and "returned" the bomb to the Covenant warship. I mean he could have used it to steer himself out of harms way. I mean unless your implying Chief's a moron and never knew he even had that stupid little feature.


No, I say so because the books always depicted all MJOLNIR's with thrusters

  • 07.19.2011 4:16 PM PDT

Um, the book described them as WEARING thruster packs. As in, IN ADDITION TO THE ARMOR.

Fall of Reach, John and Linda ditch the thruster packs. If it was part of the armor, that'd be tough. If it was part of the armor, it'd be hard to hit the fuel tank with a single needle.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


All MJOLNIR armor variants had zero-gee thruster packs.


Much as i would love this to be true i just re-read all of the books recently and never came across that. i do remember it being stated in GoO that they could link up with the packs but they weren't already built in, hence james floating away.

  • 07.19.2011 4:19 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


All MJOLNIR armor variants had zero-gee thruster packs.


Really? So because we've only seen it but once in one trailer on Mark 6 all MJOLNIR now has Zero-gee thruster capability?

You know the thruster pack would have been so useful during the invasion of earth when chief went and "returned" the bomb to the Covenant warship. I mean he could have used it to steer himself out of harms way. I mean unless your implying Chief's a moron and never knew he even had that stupid little feature.


No, I say so because the books always depicted all MJOLNIR's with thrusters


Okay besides sounding like a three year old, The thrustes were equipment much like your standard JETPACK. Perhaps you should re-read the novels...or attempt to read them unless you're stuck in your own little fantasy world in which case.

"MASTER CHEEFZ HAZ THRUSTERZ ALL TIEMZ GUIEZ!!!! BUT HEEZ 2 STOOPID TOO UZE THAM!"

  • 07.19.2011 4:29 PM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

I'm pretty sure Chief always had that thruster on his back...We just couldn't, nor have we seen, him actually use it aside from the trailer.

  • 07.19.2011 5:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


All MJOLNIR armor variants had zero-gee thruster packs.


Really? So because we've only seen it but once in one trailer on Mark 6 all MJOLNIR now has Zero-gee thruster capability?

You know the thruster pack would have been so useful during the invasion of earth when chief went and "returned" the bomb to the Covenant warship. I mean he could have used it to steer himself out of harms way. I mean unless your implying Chief's a moron and never knew he even had that stupid little feature.


No, I say so because the books always depicted all MJOLNIR's with thrusters


I'm getting tired of seeing people say this when the books clearly depicts that all the MJOLNIR suits prior to Mk VI utilize external packs whilst the Mk VI had no mention (to this day even) of thrusters actually being installed within the suit.

  • 07.19.2011 5:24 PM PDT