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Subject: John is wearing MK 7 in Halo 4.

Thrusters :D

  • 07.19.2011 5:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


Stop taking the teaser frame by frame.

Frankie said everything will be explained in the game and he doesn't just wake up with all this going on like that.

It is the same armor just with different parts, much like the hands being changed from halo 2-3 but nobody noticed.
The suit is just getting more accurate graphically as it always as, and logically i assume he will pick up the thruster pack after he wakes up


Nobody seemed to care about Thel randomly getting mandible guards in Halo 3 either.

  • 07.19.2011 5:31 PM PDT
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Cortana made it from scrap metal lying around, she is skilled enough and could probably use some dumb drone or something to control to do the dirty work.
Or the cryo tube had an extra set of "optional upgrades in case of emergency".
//thread ;)

  • 07.19.2011 5:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Grumbledock
Cortana made it from scrap metal lying around, she is skilled enough and could probably use some dumb drone or something to control to do the dirty work.
Or the cryo tube had an extra set of "optional upgrades in case of emergency".
//thread ;)


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  • 07.19.2011 5:35 PM PDT


Posted by: Scorpians Wrath

Posted by: ROBERTO jh


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.

[/quote]

But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


All MJOLNIR armor variants had zero-gee thruster packs.


Really? So because we've only seen it but once in one trailer on Mark 6 all MJOLNIR now has Zero-gee thruster capability?

You know the thruster pack would have been so useful during the invasion of earth when chief went and "returned" the bomb to the Covenant warship. I mean he could have used it to steer himself out of harms way. I mean unless your implying Chief's a moron and never knew he even had that stupid little feature.


No, I say so because the books always depicted all MJOLNIR's with thrusters


Okay besides sounding like a three year old, The thrustes were equipment much like your standard JETPACK. Perhaps you should re-read the novels...or attempt to read them unless you're stuck in your own little fantasy world in which case.

"MASTER CHEEFZ HAZ THRUSTERZ ALL TIEMZ GUIEZ!!!! BUT HEEZ 2 STOOPID TOO UZE THAM!"


The irony in this post is tangible.

I made a mistake that quite a few others have made as well. I am only human.

But of course, you are far and above all petty things such as human nature, aren't you Scorpions Wrath? How could I ever dare make a mistake when an ineffable presence and intellect--combined with a surely infinitely vast and mature mind--such as yours is within the vicinity? I would assume, quite naturally, that thanks to your presence, all human weaknesses such as confusion and memory mis-haps would become negligent.

The mature aura that his to beheld seeping off of you is indescribably infectious.




You accuse me of being a three year old when you present yourself as having the emotional maturity and restraint of that which you accuse me of being. One cannot blame another for making a mistake, and I fully admit I made a mistake. You need only accept it.

  • 07.19.2011 5:36 PM PDT


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
I'm pretty sure Chief always had that thruster on his back...We just couldn't, nor have we seen, him actually use it aside from the trailer.


But then how would we know if he had them?

  • 07.19.2011 6:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
I'm pretty sure Chief always had that thruster on his back...We just couldn't, nor have we seen, him actually use it aside from the trailer.


But then how would we know if he had them?

Because it's visible. Note: I said, '...nor have we seen him actually use it.' But, it's still been visible on the back of his armor.

See the little stubs? I believe that's the thruster. Also, disregard that it's Halo Legends. It's the only picture I found, but I know it's the same in the games.

  • 07.19.2011 7:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
I'm pretty sure Chief always had that thruster on his back...We just couldn't, nor have we seen, him actually use it aside from the trailer.
If you look at Mk V, it actually kind of looks like that armour variant has thrusters, but that's just coming from a Custom Edition regular.

  • 07.19.2011 7:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I'll believe you...


As soon as you explain to me how he will get it.

The same way he gets his other armor.




What? Master Chief is evolving!

  • 07.19.2011 8:02 PM PDT

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.


Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


I've said this many times (and someone probably already beat me to this), that he did have the thrusters in his MK-VI, however, they are only for use in space, and would have no effect on ground.

  • 07.19.2011 10:07 PM PDT


Posted by: Alpha00

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


I've said this many times (and someone probably already beat me to this), that he did have the thrusters in his MK-VI, however, they are only for use in space, and would have no effect on ground.

Proof?


[Edited on 07.19.2011 10:26 PM PDT]

  • 07.19.2011 10:25 PM PDT
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Come to think about it, I have never (or perhaps had missed out) read anything regarding to Zero-G with the MJOLNIR Armor in explicit detail.

  • 07.19.2011 10:29 PM PDT




Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.

[/quote]

But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?[/quote]

All MJOLNIR armor variants had zero-gee thruster packs.[/quote]

Really? So because we've only seen it but once in one trailer on Mark 6 all MJOLNIR now has Zero-gee thruster capability?

You know the thruster pack would have been so useful during the invasion of earth when chief went and "returned" the bomb to the Covenant warship. I mean he could have used it to steer himself out of harms way. I mean unless your implying Chief's a moron and never knew he even had that stupid little feature.[/quote]

No, I say so because the books always depicted all MJOLNIR's with thrusters


Okay besides sounding like a three year old, The thrustes were equipment much like your standard JETPACK. Perhaps you should re-read the novels...or attempt to read them unless you're stuck in your own little fantasy world in which case.

"MASTER CHEEFZ HAZ THRUSTERZ ALL TIEMZ GUIEZ!!!! BUT HEEZ 2 STOOPID TOO UZE THAM!"


I made a mistake that quite a few others have made as well. I am only human.

But of course, you are far and above all petty things such as human nature, aren't you Scorpions Wrath? How could I ever dare make a mistake when an ineffable presence and intellect--combined with a surely infinitely vast and mature mind--such as yours is within the vicinity? I would assume, quite naturally, that thanks to your presence, all human weaknesses such as confusion and memory mis-haps would become negligent.

The mature aura that his to beheld seeping off of you is indescribably infectious.


Oh thanks, That's the nicest thing you've ever said to anyone RobertoJH jr. I knew all of this already however I mean, from seeing any topic concerning StarWars Vs halo I've seen you post in I KNOW without a doubt this is right.

[Edited on 07.19.2011 10:30 PM PDT]

  • 07.19.2011 10:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
I'm pretty sure Chief always had that thruster on his back...We just couldn't, nor have we seen, him actually use it aside from the trailer.


But then how would we know if he had them?

Because it's visible. Note: I said, '...nor have we seen him actually use it.' But, it's still been visible on the back of his armor.

See the little stubs? I believe that's the thruster. Also, disregard that it's Halo Legends. It's the only picture I found, but I know it's the same in the games.


Mk IV and V are confirmed to have no internal thrusters, so no those aren't thrusters. If they were, Kelly wouldn't have to use herself as a stepping stone as both she and the Chief would just thrust themselves up there. But they didn't because their armors don't have internal thrusters. Instead we know as a fact within the novels that the Spartans required external thruster packs.

  • 07.19.2011 10:32 PM PDT

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Well, wasn't Noble Six wearing an atmospheric insertion system in Halo Reach? But that was Mk. V, not Mk. VII.

  • 07.19.2011 11:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Plasma Prestige
Well, wasn't Noble Six wearing an atmospheric insertion system in Halo Reach? But that was Mk. V, not Mk. VII.


What does that have to do with thrusters meant for zero-g environments?

  • 07.19.2011 11:21 PM PDT


Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: Plasma Prestige
Well, wasn't Noble Six wearing an atmospheric insertion system in Halo Reach? But that was Mk. V, not Mk. VII.


What does that have to do with thrusters meant for zero-g environments?


Especially built in ones <_<.

  • 07.19.2011 11:23 PM PDT

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Mark VI has the little things that could be the thrusters. There is a possibility that he's always had them and that maybe he used them in betwen when he kicks the bomb and the next scene. We did not see what happened betwen that. It makes sense.

Also, I believe he will get the upgraded armour on the planet itself or near it.

  • 07.19.2011 11:25 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
Mark VI has the little things that could be the thrusters. There is a possibility that he's always had them and that maybe he used them in betwen when he kicks the bomb and the next scene. We did not see what happened betwen that. It makes sense.

Also, I believe he will get the upgraded armour on the planet itself or near it.

or he didnt know he had it he just got the armor not instructions on all of it.

  • 07.19.2011 11:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan 100
Mark VI has the little things that could be the thrusters. There is a possibility that he's always had them and that maybe he used them in betwen when he kicks the bomb and the next scene. We did not see what happened betwen that. It makes sense.

Also, I believe he will get the upgraded armour on the planet itself or near it.


Because you know, that scene never made sense before this possibility came out from a teaser trailer of all things....

The Chief used momentum to get from point a to point b to point c. Nothing more nothing less. If he was able to use thrusters off scene when he wasn't visible then he wouldn't slam down hard into the In Amber Clad from that momentum. He'd slow himself down with his theoretical off screen thrusters.

There is still no information outside of the teaser to this day that decisively proves the Mk VI armor had zero-g internal thrusters installed.

  • 07.19.2011 11:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I'll believe you...

As soon as you explain to me how he will get it.

everyone knows Chief has an ability to switch armor in-between games.

  • 07.19.2011 11:33 PM PDT

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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

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Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: Plasma Prestige
Well, wasn't Noble Six wearing an atmospheric insertion system in Halo Reach? But that was Mk. V, not Mk. VII.


What does that have to do with thrusters meant for zero-g environments?

I suppose I'm not up to snuff about this then. Are we talking about re-entry packs that were seen on Halo Reach (and are those different from atmospheric insertion units), or are we talking about microgravity thrusters (and are all these mutually exclusive?)

  • 07.19.2011 11:33 PM PDT

Expressing my strong liberal views without shame. Favorite quotes below:

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

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Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: Spartan 100
Mark VI has the little things that could be the thrusters. There is a possibility that he's always had them and that maybe he used them in betwen when he kicks the bomb and the next scene. We did not see what happened betwen that. It makes sense.

Also, I believe he will get the upgraded armour on the planet itself or near it.


Because you know, that scene never made sense before this possibility came out from a teaser trailer of all things....

The Chief used momentum to get from point a to point b to point c. Nothing more nothing less. If he was able to use thrusters off scene when he wasn't visible then he wouldn't slam down hard into the In Amber Clad from that momentum. He'd slow himself down with his theoretical off screen thrusters.

There is still no information outside of the teaser to this day that decisively proves the Mk VI armor had zero-g internal thrusters installed.

So, does this mean that the Chief more than likely acquired these thrusters and put them on in the teaser? It is a teaser after all.

  • 07.19.2011 11:35 PM PDT

Brains beats brawn get used to it

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Posted by: Plasma Prestige

Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: Spartan 100
Mark VI has the little things that could be the thrusters. There is a possibility that he's always had them and that maybe he used them in betwen when he kicks the bomb and the next scene. We did not see what happened betwen that. It makes sense.

Also, I believe he will get the upgraded armour on the planet itself or near it.


Because you know, that scene never made sense before this possibility came out from a teaser trailer of all things....

The Chief used momentum to get from point a to point b to point c. Nothing more nothing less. If he was able to use thrusters off scene when he wasn't visible then he wouldn't slam down hard into the In Amber Clad from that momentum. He'd slow himself down with his theoretical off screen thrusters.

There is still no information outside of the teaser to this day that decisively proves the Mk VI armor had zero-g internal thrusters installed.

So, does this mean that the Chief more than likely acquired these thrusters and put them on in the teaser? It is a teaser after all.


It's a teaser. There's nothing to figure out or take away from because it's a teaser. The teaser has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

What I am talking about, are the claims of people who say the all MJOLNIR armor have existing internal zero-g thruster packs installed within them in canon when they do not.

This has nothing to do with Halo 4. It has everything to do with countering false claims that have come up in a teaser trailer and is retroactively being applied to canon based solely on that trailer when it should not be. Because it is a teaser trailer.

Is that clear enough for you?

The thrusters in Halo 4 will be explained in due time as Frankie has said. But it still doesn't change the facts that the Mk IV and V armors did not have internal thrusters 'in the books' despite people suddenly claiming otherwise.

To add to that is how the Mk. VI never had internal thrusters listed as a feature either in canon sources dealing with such things such as the encyclopedia.

The only scrap of evidence to suggest anything of the sort comes from a general statement in Halsey's journal to improve on EVA technologies for the Mk VI. However, nowhere is it stated that those technologies extend to an internal thruster pack, or if those technologies were implemented in the first place. The reasoning as to why it's important that they be specifically referenced is because of how "EVA technologies" can easily refer to the Armor Permutations in Halo 3 designed to improve EVA functionality while in conjunction with the standard external pack the Spartans have been using for EVA excursions.

You caught up now? That's why your statement about the re-entry pack has nothing to do with what I was saying earlier.

  • 07.19.2011 11:45 PM PDT

Posted by: I Nebula I

Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


He has Mk VI. This is because at the end of Halo 3, that's what he was still wearing when he entered the cryo tube. The jetpack [or whatever you prefer to call it] was added because 343I wanted it to be in the game [or at least the trailer]. The same goes for the grenade attachment for the magnum.

  • 07.20.2011 12:37 AM PDT