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Subject: John is wearing MK 7 in Halo 4.


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Posted by: grey101
thruster packs are not insertion or atmospheric.



But these 'thrusters' are not in the MK6. What Mjolnir has he got on?


He has Mk VI. This is because at the end of Halo 3, that's what he was still wearing when he entered the cryo tube. The jetpack [or whatever you prefer to call it] was added because 343I wanted it to be in the game [or at least the trailer]. The same goes for the grenade attachment for the magnum.


Fairly sure that gun has been described as being entirely new, especially since Chief does some sort of cocking thing you can't do with a magnum.

  • 07.20.2011 12:51 AM PDT

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Everyone knows that the Chief has an ability to switch armors in-between games.

  • 07.20.2011 1:01 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I'll believe you...

As soon as you explain to me how he will get it.


He went to Lidl on a Thursday when the bargains go on sale. Sadly like most 'bargains' from Lidl it'll fail when he needs it the most and that'll be the end of him. Should've gone to Asda instead me thinks.

  • 07.20.2011 1:42 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101

and the germans had plans for a space station in WW2 and that obviously never happened.


ganz sicher?

  • 07.20.2011 2:37 AM PDT


Posted by: Spartan1065
Teasers are not meant to be canon. That isn't the first scene of the game. It's just there to get us all up in a tizzy about the upcoming game.


So far, everything in Halo has had meaning. Before every single games release, every piece of information that released was scrutinised to the finest detail by fans.

There is something to his armour. It could be that the ship was carrying a prototype. It doesn't necessarily have to be MK VII, but maybe just an upgrade like thrusters.

I hope they don't force something into the story like that. But you never know, it would be very easy to do. But it's all just speculation.

  • 07.20.2011 3:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan1065
Teasers are not meant to be canon. That isn't the first scene of the game. It's just there to get us all up in a tizzy about the upcoming game.


So far, everything in Halo has had meaning. Before every single games release, every piece of information that released was scrutinised to the finest detail by fans.

There is something to his armour. It could be that the ship was carrying a prototype. It doesn't necessarily have to be MK VII, but maybe just an upgrade like thrusters.

I hope they don't force something into the story like that. But you never know, it would be very easy to do. But it's all just speculation.


Name one teaser where the events portrayed in it were canonical?

Other than general looks, new items, and attitude/pacing there is nothing canonical to ever take and use from a teaser because the actual explanations won't have anything to do with the teaser. Teasers are just a way to pull the new concepts out of their actual context so that they can all be placed and shown off within a short amount of time to give the audience an idea of what to expect. A tease if you will. There's really no point or need even to justify what's in a teaser because the actual reasoning and context will come into play later on.

  • 07.20.2011 3:23 AM PDT
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Where does everybody get this information ?

  • 07.20.2011 4:41 AM PDT

The main problem here is how his armor changed while he was in cryo. It could be explained if he wasn't on the Forward Unto Dawn, but that just raises even more problems.

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Posted by: Sean C84
The main problem here is how his armor changed while he was in cryo. It could be explained if he wasn't on the Forward Unto Dawn, but that just raises even more problems.


teaser

And the main problem is that we has awaken from cryo by mere shouting (which can't happen) so obviously not everything in the teaser trailer is going to happen just like that.


cortana gives some little speech like the start of halo 3


Wakes chief up, they talk.


ship then gets closer to planet and starts falling apart, chief nabs cortana who tells him to get a thruster pack.

  • 07.20.2011 5:40 AM PDT


Posted by: Sean C84
The main problem here is how his armor changed while he was in cryo. It could be explained if he wasn't on the Forward Unto Dawn, but that just raises even more problems.


right. MC had to leave and re-enter the cryo at some point. in his E3 IGN interview, frank o'conner said that the h4 trailer doesn't continue h3's story straight, i'm pretty sure he even says "things have happened".
we'll have to wait. we've been promised new info at halofest, right?

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I'll believe you...

As soon as you explain to me how he will got it.

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Posted by: Sean C84
The main problem here is how his armor changed while he was in cryo. It could be explained if he wasn't on the Forward Unto Dawn, but that just raises even more problems.


right. MC had to leave and re-enter the cryo at some point. in his E3 IGN interview, frank o'conner said that the h4 trailer doesn't continue h3's story straight, i'm pretty sure he even says "things have happened".
we'll have to wait. we've been promised new info at halofest, right?


no he doesn't and frankie didn't say that, he just said things in the trailer don't happen exactly like that and stuff will be explained

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I'll believe you...

As soon as you explain to me how he will got it.


read my post

  • 07.20.2011 6:28 AM PDT
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While i agree that this is a teaser and shouldn't be taken at face value, Halseys Diary does say

Mark VI

-Active stealth package
-Next-gen EVA Technology
-Possible covenant-enabled technologies
-Modilar environmental packages that can be field swapped

So it is possible hes had them all along...

  • 07.20.2011 7:14 AM PDT

Hello! You may also know me as Ijnekono. How you have made your way here I do not know, but welcome. (:

Do you mean Mark VII?
I thought chief already had Mark VI armor and I don't remember active stealth package.
Am I being silly? Probably. I haven't read Halsey's Diary.

  • 07.20.2011 7:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Terda
While i agree that this is a teaser and shouldn't be taken at face value, Halseys Diary does say

Mark VI

-Active stealth package
-Next-gen EVA Technology
-Possible covenant-enabled technologies
-Modilar environmental packages that can be field swapped

So it is possible hes had them all along...


Does the possibility exist to add that in as a smooth recton down the line, sure. But at the moment it's not even remotely enough to confirm that he's " always had it" since Halo 2 and Halo 3 as some people in this thread are claiming.

Next-gen EVA can apply to a number of things, namely additional armor components that can assist with EVA operation that don't have anything to do with the actual thruster unit itself such as shoulder pieces, knee pads, helmets, etc. And as stated before it was only a list of potential things to do, not an actual list of what has actually been implemented.

  • 07.20.2011 8:15 AM PDT


Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: Terda
While i agree that this is a teaser and shouldn't be taken at face value, Halseys Diary does say

Mark VI

-Active stealth package
-Next-gen EVA Technology
-Possible covenant-enabled technologies
-Modilar environmental packages that can be field swapped

So it is possible hes had them all along...


Does the possibility exist to add that in as a smooth recton down the line, sure. But at the moment it's not even remotely enough to confirm that he's " always had it" since Halo 2 and Halo 3 as some people in this thread are claiming.

Next-gen EVA can apply to a number of things, namely additional armor components that can assist with EVA operation that don't have anything to do with the actual thruster unit itself such as shoulder pieces, knee pads, helmets, etc. And as stated before it was only a list of potential things to do, not an actual list of what has actually been implemented.


Especially since none of those four things are default in Mark VI...

  • 07.20.2011 8:17 AM PDT

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I'm pretty sure Chief always had that thruster on his back...We just couldn't, nor have we seen, him actually use it aside from the trailer.


But then how would we know if he had them?

Because it's visible. Note: I said, '...nor have we seen him actually use it.' But, it's still been visible on the back of his armor.

See the little stubs? I believe that's the thruster. Also, disregard that it's Halo Legends. It's the only picture I found, but I know it's the same in the games.


Mk IV and V are confirmed to have no internal thrusters, so no those aren't thrusters. If they were, Kelly wouldn't have to use herself as a stepping stone as both she and the Chief would just thrust themselves up there. But they didn't because their armors don't have internal thrusters. Instead we know as a fact within the novels that the Spartans required external thruster packs.

Even so, Master Chief was wearing Mk VI in Halo 3. So, he still had it throughout Halo 3.

  • 07.20.2011 8:27 AM PDT

Just a question... if chief had thrusters in the suit, couldn't he have used them to slow his decent in the start of halo 3?

I know I would.

  • 07.20.2011 8:28 AM PDT

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Maybe he did. Who knows? It doesn't really matter, though. They wanted him to be knocked out in the beginning.

  • 07.20.2011 8:35 AM PDT

I honestly hate these threads because it always makes Master chief sound stupid when in reality he isn't stupid.

It's pretty much sounding like chief never knew he had this feature until Halo 4 and it also makes Cortana sound like a -blam!- for not telling him about it I mean she was stuck in the dudes armor for most of Halo 1 and 2.

You'd think that would be an important detail to include when throwing yourself out into space. Though I will admit the CGI was rather cool in that trailer I'm not exactly hyped for the game just yet I need to see more of it.

*EDIT* And as for the MK7...it makes the UNSC look even more stupid for not giving Chief the armor in the first place when he could have used it during the Human Covenant war.

[Edited on 07.20.2011 9:20 AM PDT]

  • 07.20.2011 9:19 AM PDT

there's no good explanation??...really how about any of these.

1)it's a CGI trailer not an actual representation of actual in game grapics or rendering's as grey mentioned. it has also been mentioned by frankie that there is a reason for the changes which would lead one to belive there would als be an explanantion no?

2)nobody knows how long the chief has been "asleep" for so they could be upgrades cortana has made to his suit while he's asleep specially if while he's been asleep shes gone through all her newish knowledge on the forerunners and there has been tech she's had the ability to apply to his suit or knowledge/schematics and available resources to appy said improvements

are neither of these viable to explain such changes?.

as for the new pistol once again its cgi so who knows a diff way of it could be the dawn was carrying prototype weapons we simply didnt get to use un halo 3

  • 07.20.2011 9:46 AM PDT


Posted by: sameron
there's no good explanation??...really how about any of these.

1)it's a CGI trailer not an actual representation of actual in game grapics or rendering's as grey mentioned. it has also been mentioned by frankie that there is a reason for the changes which would lead one to belive there would als be an explanantion no?

2)nobody knows how long the chief has been "asleep" for so they could be upgrades cortana has made to his suit while he's asleep specially if while he's been asleep shes gone through all her newish knowledge on the forerunners and there has been tech she's had the ability to apply to his suit or knowledge/schematics and available resources to appy said improvements

are neither of these viable to explain such changes?.

as for the new pistol once again its cgi so who knows a diff way of it could be the dawn was carrying prototype weapons we simply didnt get to use un halo 3


the pistol could have been a normal pistol, but have a rifle grenade-like attachment, like modern day ones, but shorter

  • 07.20.2011 9:54 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101


no he doesn't and frankie didn't say that, he just said things in the trailer don't happen exactly like that and stuff will be explained


we pick up not exactly where that left of. some time has passed between h3 and h4 and a lot of things have changed in that intervenig period. [3:41]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: raindoc

Posted by: grey101


no he doesn't and frankie didn't say that, he just said things in the trailer don't happen exactly like that and stuff will be explained


we pick up not exactly where that left of. some time has passed between h3 and h4 and a lot of things have changed in that intervenig period. [3:41]


We already knew that halo 4 takes place about 5 years later based off halo legends.

Understand what he is talking about please instead of making your own meaning for it.

  • 07.20.2011 10:20 AM PDT