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Subject: A possible tweak to the poll system, here on Bungie.net.
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The poll system isn't "broken," it just needs tweaking. I've noticed that polls (usually) don't do very well compared to regular threads. I think it's due to the fact that in regular threads, you have to post to get your idea across, whereas in polls, people can just choose what they agree on, not post, and move on. Which usually kills the post.

FUN FACT! Only EIGHT POLLS out of the 78 threads up there have ever been stickied. That's only around 1/10th. (I know, my math skills are superb.)

The solution?
Option #1: Whenever someone votes for something, it counts as 1/4 of a regular post. For example, you'd need 4 votes for it to "bump" your poll back up to the top (opposed to a single post bumping it back up to the top).This way if the poll is more of a straight forward answer (not needing an explanation), the OP wouldn't have to worry about having to bump, and wouldn't have to risk a lock/warning.


Option #2: Every time someone votes on a poll (Let's call it "Thread A"), it would be bumped up one place. For example... If Thread A is just starting out, and is immediately bumped down three or four spots by Thread B, the OP could vote on his/her poll, and be bumped up one spot, and be ahead of B. This could give a BIG leg up for pollers.
Possible cons: Forums getting dominated by (possible troll) polls, and not regular posts.

Option #3 Posted by: HeyBlade789
A 'Reply with Vote' option?

so you write a reply and vote.

I'm just looking for an equilibrium between pollers and posters. Sure, there are some successful polls, but there is an opportunity for even better, more interesting ones, if we gave one of these systems a shot.

TL;DR: Two options: Option #1: Every 4 votes a poll gets, it gets a bump back up to the top of the forum.
Option #2: Every vote a poll gets, it gets bumped one spot up.


Share your thoughts and opinions with me! I'm willing to edit in some of your guys' ideas!

[Edited on 07.20.2011 5:42 PM PDT]

  • 07.19.2011 7:25 PM PDT
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I don't see anything wrong with the current poll system.
If people want to discuss a poll, they will.

  • 07.19.2011 7:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: komark
I don't see anything wrong with the current poll system.
If people want to discuss a poll, they will.

The thing is though, unless you have an entirely original, interesting poll, it's going to be drowned in the forums. Which is unfortunate to me.

  • 07.19.2011 7:33 PM PDT
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I like option 1.

  • 07.19.2011 7:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: kool fat kid
I like option 1.

Yeah, I was leaning a bit towards option 1 too. Which part appeals to you the most?

  • 07.19.2011 7:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: kool fat kid
I like option 1.

Yeah, I was leaning a bit towards option 1 too. Which part appeals to you the most?
The idea of each vote not being a direct bump but instead 4 votes being a bump. IMO, having 1 vote bump it up would be too easy to abuse. For instance the OP could just make an alt whenever his thread reached the bottom of the page and bring it back up.

  • 07.19.2011 7:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: kool fat kid
Posted by: The Yeti

Posted by: kool fat kid
I like option 1.

Yeah, I was leaning a bit towards option 1 too. Which part appeals to you the most?
The idea of each vote not being a direct bump but instead 4 votes being a bump. IMO, having 1 vote bump it up would be too easy to abuse. For instance the OP could just make an alt whenever his thread reached the bottom of the page and bring it back up.
That's true, but it'd be harder to manipulate than that, because it would only bump it up one place. Not to the top of the forum. (Man this forum is silent!)

  • 07.19.2011 7:44 PM PDT

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Option 1 sounds like the 3/5's compromise.... (No racial remarks intended/tolerated.)

And this would definitely be hard on the servers.

  • 07.19.2011 7:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: squeak52
Option 1 sounds like the 3/5's compromise.... (No racial remarks intended/tolerated.)

And this would definitely be hard on the servers.

Damn, I feared that people would make that connection. Why would it be hard on the servers?

  • 07.19.2011 7:54 PM PDT

"I don't care if it's God's own anti-Son of a -blam!- Machine or a giant hula-hoop!"

Well I'm not saying it would crash them, but when you think of how many polls there are a day, how many there are in the archives, it seems like it would take quite a lot of space to keep track of every single one of them. There would also be some likely bugs if several votes hit the servers at once. When everything adds up, in my opinion, the servers would be noticeably slower, especially in "The Flood."
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Posted by: squeak52
Option 1 sounds like the 3/5's compromise.... (No racial remarks intended/tolerated.)

And this would definitely be hard on the servers.

Damn, I feared that people would make that connection. Why would it be hard on the servers?

  • 07.19.2011 8:00 PM PDT

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I stopped reading at the word bump, I'm depressed... It took two years of being perfect to get my Noble title, then I made a very good thread that took a lot of research but it got buried with little to no response so I bumped it. Two years of staying active thrown away for 4 letters B.U.M.P Now I look like a noob with a regular member title. Some say their titles return in a week if this is not the case i will be going dark on these forums...

  • 07.19.2011 8:02 PM PDT
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Thats true. Although Bungies servers are pretty hardy, considering they run 14 forums a day.
Posted by: squeak52
Well I'm not saying it would crash them, but when you think of how many polls there are a day, how many there are in the archives, it seems like it would take quite a lot of space to keep track of every single one of them. There would also be some likely bugs if several votes hit the servers at once. When everything adds up, in my opinion, the servers would be noticeably slower, especially in "The Flood."
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Posted by: squeak52
Option 1 sounds like the 3/5's compromise.... (No racial remarks intended/tolerated.)

And this would definitely be hard on the servers.

Damn, I feared that people would make that connection. Why would it be hard on the servers?

  • 07.19.2011 8:05 PM PDT

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The servers are nice, but this will be the tiny piece of hay that kills the camels back. That's how you say it, right?

  • 07.19.2011 8:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sound Of Trance
The servers are nice, but this will be the tiny piece of hay that kills the camels back. That's how you say it, right?

Can't tell if sarcasm.
If not: Breaks the camels back. Bit kills it.

If so: *Sadface*

  • 07.19.2011 8:28 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.

I approve of this.

  • 07.19.2011 8:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
I approve of this.

Really? Thanks for the support!

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Posted by: komark
I don't see anything wrong with the current poll system.
If people want to discuss a poll, they will.

The thing is though, unless you have an entirely original, interesting poll, it's going to be drowned in the forums. Which is unfortunate to me.
So uninteresting polls and repeat polls should be atop of the forums?

  • 07.20.2011 9:59 AM PDT
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Polls are fine.
It's just that people feel it's obligatory to post a retarded extra option which will instantly -blam!- up their results.

It's people's choice to post in a thread or answer a poll anyway - chances are, people won't normally need to discuss the poll, but rather the content of the thread - and if it's a thread built around the poll over an adequate discussion topic it'll flop anyway - compared to a thread made for discussion, and not just a poll answer.
-K-

  • 07.20.2011 10:03 AM PDT

I like option one, if it could work. I'm not sure if it would be reasonable, though. I think that polls are a side to a thread, not the focus. The poll feature should be accompanied with a good thread to help it, not be the only feature of a post.

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I stopped reading at the word bump, I'm depressed... It took two years of being perfect to get my Noble title, then I made a very good thread that took a lot of research but it got buried with little to no response so I bumped it. Two years of staying active thrown away for 4 letters B.U.M.P Now I look like a noob with a regular member title. Some say their titles return in a week if this is not the case i will be going dark on these forums...


Did you even read the title thread? A prefix with the default Member title isn't even high up anyways.

[Edited on 07.20.2011 10:09 AM PDT]

  • 07.20.2011 10:08 AM PDT

People look at polls?
I thought they were just for entertainment purposes.

  • 07.20.2011 10:13 AM PDT

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A 'Reply with Vote' option?

so you write a reply and vote.

  • 07.20.2011 10:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
I approve of this.


Can't we just agree that all future polls are made by you?

  • 07.20.2011 10:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: komark

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Posted by: komark
I don't see anything wrong with the current poll system.
If people want to discuss a poll, they will.

The thing is though, unless you have an entirely original, interesting poll, it's going to be drowned in the forums. Which is unfortunate to me.
So uninteresting polls and repeat polls should be atop of the forums?

Not exactly what I'm trying to get at; Nowadays, it's nearly impossible to make a completely original poll, so unless it's really original, your poll will die. I should have worded that better, sorry!

  • 07.20.2011 1:14 PM PDT

Yes, there're too many numbers in my name.

I personally don't see the big issue. People are voting, that's all that matters, right? If you wan't people to reply always to your topic, then don't make it a poll, just ask the question and have people reply back with their answer.

  • 07.20.2011 1:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tycho_005917
I personally don't see the big issue. People are voting, that's all that matters, right? If you wan't people to reply always to your topic, then don't make it a poll, just ask the question and have people reply back with their answer.

But then that defeats the purpose of a poll. With this tweak, polls could survive longer. And be open to more discussion.
I just like the idea of having a poll that can sustain itself by votes, rather than bumps.

  • 07.20.2011 1:21 PM PDT

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