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Subject: UNSC vs Tau'ri (Post-Season 5) vs PokeEarth.
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

Scenario one is a ground battle.

Scenario two is an air battle.

Scenario three is a spacefighter battle.

Scenario four is when the actual ships fight, three BC-304s vs the UNSC Pillar of Autumn and six UNSC frigates, vs... well [REDACTED] I dunno what Pokemon could bring to the fight.

Note: NOVAs are banned from this discussion. So is nuke beaming. 1.17 teraton standard MAC is disposed of like the wankery it is. Keep with TFoR calcs for UNSC weapons, you can use GoO for UNSC weapon calcs as well. And assume that Titanium-A is the same strength as trinium/tungstun/naquadah alloy.

Note MKII: For nostalgic/familiarity issues, only Generation I/II/III Pokemon are allowed, AKA from Red/Blue/Yelllow/Green to Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald.

Note MKIII: Both the Tau'ri and the UNSC want the planet for the potential resources it could provide. The inhabitants of PokeEarth just want to kick the two invading forces off their planet.

Note IV: ASSUME COMPLETE COMPETENCE for all factions.
So who wins?

[Edited on 07.20.2011 1:03 AM PDT]

  • 07.19.2011 10:10 PM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

No posts yet? Why?

  • 07.19.2011 11:44 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Well, Pokemon have Rayquaza, Groundon and Kyogre, so I'd say they win on the ground, sea and sky.

  • 07.20.2011 12:43 AM PDT

Brains beats brawn get used to it

Fear the Red Comet

Variety is the spice of life.
Long live games.
Death to all fanboys.

Any psychic pokemon can render projectiles harmless too regardless of location.

Not to mention you can wield the powers of the god in your hand in the form of Arceus.


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Well, Pokemon have Rayquaza, Groundon and Kyogre, so I'd say they win on the ground, sea and sky.



Pokemon are really only scaled to be be contained within their own universe just because of how ridiculous it would be anywhere else.

  • 07.20.2011 12:48 AM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship


Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Not to mention you can wield the powers of the god in your hand in the form of Arceus.

READ THE OP!

Generation One to Three ONLY! No Arceus, no Dialga, no Palkia, no Genosect, NOTHING FROM GENERATION FOUR AND ONWARDS! rrgh.

  • 07.20.2011 1:02 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Not to mention you can wield the powers of the god in your hand in the form of Arceus.

READ THE OP!

Generation One to Three ONLY! No Arceus, no Dialga, no Palkia, no Genosect, NOTHING FROM GENERATION FOUR AND ONWARDS! rrgh.


There's no need for them anyways, Mew/Mewtwo along with Rayquaza, Groundon and Kyogre are more than enough to stop anything short of a glassing beam/MAC from orbit.

  • 07.20.2011 1:14 AM PDT

Another herp vs derp thread.

  • 07.20.2011 1:15 AM PDT

"Defiant Reclaimer, he who will shatter the land and break the sky apart..."

This should be flood territory now...

  • 07.20.2011 1:20 AM PDT

Brains beats brawn get used to it

Fear the Red Comet

Variety is the spice of life.
Long live games.
Death to all fanboys.


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Not to mention you can wield the powers of the god in your hand in the form of Arceus.

READ THE OP!

Generation One to Three ONLY! No Arceus, no Dialga, no Palkia, no Genosect, NOTHING FROM GENERATION FOUR AND ONWARDS! rrgh.


First off. Chill. There was already a thread made earlier today talking about how one shouldn't be ragy over such topics.

Second off I pretty much covered every psychic pokemon in gen 1-3 with my earlier statement.

Third, I am aware of your parameters, which is why I let Snake's post stand because it's quite sufficient enough on its own to cover anything within 1-3 thus me adding in others out of the parameters to demonstrate that even outside of them it'll still be the same thing.

And it doesn't even apply to legendary pokemon. Have you seen some of their bios? You have things like Tyrannitar that can move entire mountain ranges on a whim. Another like Slugma whose body temperature is so hot that in a realistic environment it would quite literally burn a hole into the earth because of how friggin ridiculous it is.

Pokemon physics isn't even remotely in the field of normal realistic physics that Halo resides in. Halo relies on using genuine science and real laws of reality to determine things. If you haven't noticed, the literal world of Pokemon had to be warped around to withstand and contain creatures that would otherwise destroy the actual planet Earth just by standing perfectly still.

How else would you think an encounter with conventional realistic forces composed of materials from their realistic world would fare against such a ridiculously overpowered race of creatures?

Pokemon have always been ridiculously powerful than they should be when they live in a world where its physics can dictate that a bloody bird can reach speeds of Mach 2 and rats can chew through solid metal strong enough to resist the fire slug that would melt the planet Earth..

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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship


Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Not to mention you can wield the powers of the god in your hand in the form of Arceus.

READ THE OP!

Generation One to Three ONLY! No Arceus, no Dialga, no Palkia, no Genosect, NOTHING FROM GENERATION FOUR AND ONWARDS! rrgh.


First off. Chill. There was already a thread made earlier today talking about how one shouldn't be ragy over such topics.

Second off I pretty much covered every psychic pokemon in gen 1-3 with my earlier statement.

Third, I am aware of your parameters, which is why I let Snake's post stand because it's quite sufficient enough on its own to cover anything within 1-3 thus me adding in others out of the parameters to demonstrate that even outside of them it'll still be the same thing.

And it doesn't even apply to legendary pokemon. Have you seen some of their bios? You have things like Tyrannitar that can move entire mountain ranges on a whim. Another like Slugma whose body temperature is so hot that in a realistic environment it would quite literally burn a hole into the earth because of how friggin ridiculous it is.

Pokemon physics isn't even remotely in the field of normal realistic physics that Halo resides in. Halo relies on using genuine science and real laws of reality to determine things. If you haven't noticed, the literal world of Pokemon had to be warped around to withstand and contain creatures that would otherwise destroy the actual planet Earth just by standing perfectly still.

How else would you think an encounter with conventional realistic forces composed of materials from their realistic world would fare against such a ridiculously overpowered race of creatures?

Pokemon have always been ridiculously powerful than they should be when they live in a world where its physics can dictate that a bloody bird can reach speeds of Mach 2 and rats can chew through solid metal strong enough to resist the fire slug that would melt the planet Earth..


So ground forces of the Tau'ri and the UNSC get pwned. Okay.
Moving onto air combat, and then exo-atmospheric combat. Who wins then?

Air combat = F-15s and F-18s, along with F-22s and F-28s, with some truly heavy stuff like C-130s vs Hornets, Falcons, and combat outfitted Pelicans.

High/Exo-atmospheric combat = F-302s vs Longswords and Sabres.

And then, the true hell. Capship combat, listed on OP.

The real question, would Pokemon stand a chance in exo-atmospheric/capship combat?

  • 07.20.2011 1:49 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Not to mention you can wield the powers of the god in your hand in the form of Arceus.

READ THE OP!

Generation One to Three ONLY! No Arceus, no Dialga, no Palkia, no Genosect, NOTHING FROM GENERATION FOUR AND ONWARDS! rrgh.


First off. Chill. There was already a thread made earlier today talking about how one shouldn't be ragy over such topics.

Second off I pretty much covered every psychic pokemon in gen 1-3 with my earlier statement.

Third, I am aware of your parameters, which is why I let Snake's post stand because it's quite sufficient enough on its own to cover anything within 1-3 thus me adding in others out of the parameters to demonstrate that even outside of them it'll still be the same thing.

And it doesn't even apply to legendary pokemon. Have you seen some of their bios? You have things like Tyrannitar that can move entire mountain ranges on a whim. Another like Slugma whose body temperature is so hot that in a realistic environment it would quite literally burn a hole into the earth because of how friggin ridiculous it is.

Pokemon physics isn't even remotely in the field of normal realistic physics that Halo resides in. Halo relies on using genuine science and real laws of reality to determine things. If you haven't noticed, the literal world of Pokemon had to be warped around to withstand and contain creatures that would otherwise destroy the actual planet Earth just by standing perfectly still.

How else would you think an encounter with conventional realistic forces composed of materials from their realistic world would fare against such a ridiculously overpowered race of creatures?

Pokemon have always been ridiculously powerful than they should be when they live in a world where its physics can dictate that a bloody bird can reach speeds of Mach 2 and rats can chew through solid metal strong enough to resist the fire slug that would melt the planet Earth..


So ground forces of the Tau'ri and the UNSC get pwned. Okay.
Moving onto air combat, and then exo-atmospheric combat. Who wins then?

Air combat = F-15s and F-18s, along with F-22s and F-28s, with some truly heavy stuff like C-130s vs Hornets, Falcons, and combat outfitted Pelicans.

High/Exo-atmospheric combat = F-302s vs Longswords and Sabres.

And then, the true hell. Capship combat, listed on OP.

The real question, would Pokemon stand a chance in exo-atmospheric/capship combat?


We have Zapdos, Articuno and Moltres along with Rayquaza, Charizard, Dragonite, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Skarmory among others.

Moltres, Charizard and Dragonite are fired based
Articuno is ice based
Zapdos is electricity
Lugia, Ho-Oh and Skarmory I'm not sure.
Rayquaza is a dragon type.

I'm certain they would have no trouble against the other forces, besides, you cannot beat this.

  • 07.20.2011 2:08 AM PDT

Brains beats brawn get used to it

Fear the Red Comet

Variety is the spice of life.
Long live games.
Death to all fanboys.

There's seriously nothing a conventional force can do against pokemon. There's a pokemon for everything.

Air and Space units alone can be annihilated by Ghost and Psychic types. Particularly ghost types.

You state that the assumption must be made that both sides must be competent. Well the competent thing UNSC forces can do is not be hostile at all.

I emphasize once again that the UNSC cannot be pitted against an entire world whose denizens (and even the planet and its resources itself) defy the laws of physics and understanding the UNSC come from with the expectation that they can win. They just can't. Especially when you set it up so that both sides think intelligently about how they move.

If that were the case a force of psychic and ghost types can go on any field of battle and force the UNSC to submit through psychological warfare. They can go wherever they please unscathed, and do their damage without fear of being hurt in return.

The UNSC has nothing to combat ghosts in the slightest bit.

You can unleash the entire UNSC arsenal, and all it would take is just one ghost type to phase into the bridge of a ship and either paralyze, confuse, render brain dead, or outright kill the crew and blunt any offensive made on the planet in orbit from the get go.

  • 07.20.2011 2:18 AM PDT

Ditto would also be great for infiltrating enemy forces and breaking them down from within. Mr. Mime could just create an impenetrable barrier for all the ships to ram into.

  • 07.20.2011 6:00 AM PDT

I <3 Combat Evolved

This is probably the saddest thing I've ever seen.

  • 07.20.2011 9:33 AM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

If worst comes to worst, The Tau'ri and UNSC should just pull out into orbit and blast the place to chunks with their long range weapons.

  • 07.20.2011 12:30 PM PDT