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Posted by: petarded2
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Posted by: grey101
Precursors are claimed to be the same thing and if the prisoner is a precursor and gets infected to become the gravemind then that covers that.That is a VERY interesting idea, and it lends itself to what you say later in the thread that the Proto Graveminds are the "real" leaders of the Flood and that "the" Gravemind or the infected Prisoner is a unique entity.
Posted by: grey101
And from what it seems the gravemind was only killed when chief activated halo and destroyed the ark. prior to that he had been chilling on installation 5 for eons.
I don't think the Gravemind was there for the thousands of years since the end of the Forerunner Flood war. Mainly because of the Cold Storage Transmissions.
"REPORT: CONTAINMENT FAILURE
LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility; [delta site] has experienced catastrophic specimen containment failure. All apertures into facility will be locked until further notice. Atmosphere evacuation and [reduction of ambient temperature] protocols have already been enacted. Request maintenance and security detail [at earliest opportunity]. [8 minutes] elapsed since initial containment failure.
REPORT: CONTAINMENT FAILURE
Waiting for maintenance and security detail. [32 minutes, 9 seconds] elapsed since request.
REPORT: CONTAINMENT FAILURE
Still waiting for maintenance and security detail. [24 hours] elapsed since request.
REPORT: SECURITY BREACH
LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility; [delta site] has experienced a security breach via emergency [slip stream space] transportation conduits. Emergency [slip stream space] transportation conduits have been placed in recursive mode to contain unauthorized hostile life forms. Request emergency security detail. Still waiting for primary maintenance and security detail. [2512332 hours, 14 minutes, 6 seconds] elapsed since initial request.
REPORT: DERELICTION OF DUTY
2401 Penitent Tangent has been lax in the areas of maintenance and security."
That was the first "transmission", no where does it say that a Gravemind was present in this out break. I think that would definitely be mentioned in the report if there was a Gravemind present from the beginning of the outbreak.
Then we get the second one:
LOG: QUERIED ADJACENT FACILITIES
LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility [alpha, beta, gamma, epsilon, zeta, and kappa sites] have all replied [systems normal] within expected constraints. This would tend to signify that the containment failure was purely mechanical in nature; perhaps a manufacturing flaw. As no [outside agent] has accessed [delta site] in the past [874068942 hours, 4 minutes, 46 seconds][allowing for a 61360 hour, 54 minute, 2 second margin of error]sabotage would seem unlikely.
LOG: REQUEST UNANSWERED
LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility; [delta site] is currently being held at [.01 atm] / [184K]. Local maintenance and security hubs have failed to reply within expected constraints. [Bumping maintenance and security request up] to [quadrant oversight].
LOG: REQUEST UNANSWERED
LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility; [delta site] is currently being held at [1 atm] / [278K] as atmospheric seals were showing signs of stress. [Quadrant oversight] has failed to reply within expected constraints. [Bumping maintenance and security request all the way up] to 2401 [PENITENT TANGENT].
LOG: UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO FACILITIES
LF.Xx.3273 research and containment facility; [delta site] emergency [slip stream space] transportation conduits have been accessed by unauthorized parties.
LOG: FILED COMPLAINT TO INSTALLATION 00
2401 [PENITENT TANGENT], monitor of Installation 05, has been lax in the areas of maintenance and security. Requests for aid in said areas have gone unanswered by both 2401 and [subservient] systems well beyond expected constraints. This transmission basically saying that the Flood that was being held on the installation escaped due to "mechanical" failure, "perhaps a manufacturing flaw". The installation tried to contact the Ark but of course no one was there to answer. Once again they only reference LF.Xx.3273 which isn't necessarily the Gravemind only the FSC.
So I don't think the presence of the Gravemind necessitates that he has been there for 100,000 years. We just have no idea how the Flood grew to such a large size on the ring with no species to feed on...
Of course if your idea about the Gravemind really being the infected Prisoner is true then everything is a crapshoot until Bear ends the trilogy.
[Edited on 07.22.2011 3:06 PM PDT]