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PS: If you are reading this comment while imagining my voice, don't panic. That's just a side effect of the testing.
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: Ageless Durandal
Oh my god. Really guys?
Alright, Thel was a Supreme Commander. He commanded an entire fleet of ships. He would never, ever leave his command vessel to go kill some Spartan-IIIs. Especially when there were still Spartan-IIs on the planet. ALSO, I believe the original topic was if "an" Arbiter was on Reach and no canon source has even mentioned an Arbiter during that era.
Common sense isn't so common, apparently.
Thank you, i have been saying this for atleast iunno all day
Actually you happened to be the one who brought up the arbiter in the first place, so as far as things go your day long discussion has been nobodies fault but your own.
And to get everyone back on topic I'll dip a little further into this.
Since this is at a point a pure speculation thread trying to have some basis in logic I'll point out the details.
1) The elite is left handed, not exactly a common thing but then again irrelevant to anything other to hundreds of millions (just a figure pulled out of my ass, not a fact based figure) of elites who are left handed.
2) In all likely hood the force hunting down Noble six in the end is also from the ship that he had damaged earlier. I doubt a ship commander would let a man all by himself get away with "gutting" his ship. Now sure this is speculative but it's definitely a likely possibility.
3)Now the ships crew comes into question, are they apart of the fleet that flew in the poles? The final level of reach (Lone wolf) takes place on the very day that the main fleet arrives in space and the very day that reach is supposed to fall. But do you think that the invading fleet coming from the poles could reach azod? It's definitely possible, they attacked the poles around 06:00 on the 30th and noble six was attacked at 20:00 on the 30th.
But my guess is that it was one of the ships that landed on reach well before the game had started, that this ship had some spec-ops missions to accomplish. While this is a far fetched guess relying on speculation, we don't have much evidence at all to prove anything at this point.
4) So far Nobel team has faced a lot of Zealot class elites during their service on reach. Kind of odd so many zealot classes are on reach let alone before the main force has set up shop. So recalling that Noble team has killed 7 zealot class elites. Now I don't know as much as I would like to about zealot elites but my guess is that there are not a lot of them. And considering a zealot decided to find his way to kill the spartans off the side of the phantom I'm guessing that the Noble team spartans are a high priority. Hell they killed a field marshall before six rides the Onager (Correct me if I am wrong).
Considering all these details it's not too far fetched to think this particular cruiser could be filled with spec-ops forces. And as we all know a particular well known spec-ops elite named 'Rtas Vadum happens to be both left handed, and the special operations commander.
Now there is a lot of speculation here, but we are discussing who this particular elite is, and why bungie decided to make him stand out so much with him being left handed. It's possible that he is an arbiter (NOT THE HALO 2 ARBITER), but we have very little knowledge on this part.
The only hole in the theory of it possibly being 'Rtas is where 'Rtas was during all of this. It's definitely clear that he is near halo after reach considering the events, but it's not clear if he was apart of the fleet that chased the PoA, or if he wasn't even apart of the invasion.
Any info on his whereabouts would definitely settle this quickly.
Posted by: Ageless Durandal
Oh my god. Really guys?
Alright, Thel was a Supreme Commander. He commanded an entire fleet of ships. He would never, ever leave his command vessel to go kill some Spartan-IIIs.
Voro left a small fleet of ships over onyx for the assault of a group of spartan III's, a portion of blue team, and the forerunner mysteries that lied within.
While yes this is a poor comparison considering Voro was recently elected to command the fleet, and Reach is nothing compared to onyx, the fact still remains that this small spartan team has done a lot in a small period of time, and killed many high leveled elites on multiple occasions.
Now I wouldn't believe in a second that Thel would drop out of orbit, kill one spartan (Or an expected team), and then chase the POA as it jumped (Which according to the fall of reach was around 07:00 or the game Reach around 18:00 or 19:00).