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Subject: Im depressed :(

THIS was PERFECT. It fit the new game's looks so well! Look at the AR and pistol, the reach form look so right in there. But they had to go and make it just like the original with THIS CRAP
Why 343 why? I mean, halo ce's campaign > reach's anyday. But if i loved one thing about reach, it was the weapon design. Listen closely to the AR in the first link, it sounds like Reach's AR and CE's AR had a baby. Perfect sound. But after seeing the preorder trailer, im depressed. The AR and Pistol in modern graphics look abysmal.

BUT, alot of halo fans liked the original weapons. Majority rules. People who like reach's AR are somehow in the minority. My opinion means nothing. If only there was some way to chose what AR i wanted... :(

  • 07.22.2011 8:49 PM PDT

Press the back button.

  • 07.22.2011 8:59 PM PDT

I dont like the look of the old AR, thats the point of the thread. I like Reach's. I want reach's ;(

  • 07.22.2011 9:08 PM PDT


Posted by: JohnyRL
I dont like the look of the old AR, thats the point of the thread. I like Reach's. I want reach's ;(


It is a different model weapon. The gun does not even have a 60 round mag. There are accuracy differences. They are not the same length. TWO DIFFERENT WEAPONS. THE END. DEAL WITH IT. One cannot replace the other in any logical way, even if it is just the 3D model. It would break cannon. MA5B DOES NOT EQUAL MA37. Don't like it? Get Halo Custom Edition for the PC and mod it in yourself so you don't have to bother the intelligent people that know it would not logicaly work.

A graphics upgrade is good. Replacing an entire 3D model of somthing with somthing completely different is wrong.

Now stop whinning all over the forums.

  • 07.22.2011 9:32 PM PDT

The old, shiny and white pistol looked cooler anyways. As for the AR. It kind of looks a little weird but remeber that they're still working on them.

  • 07.22.2011 9:34 PM PDT

A weapon is named by what it does. Not how it looks. Its still an MA5B assault rifle even if it looks like a fluffy bunny. Once it performs the same way. I have every right to express my opinion so i suggest you show me some respect
Posted by: the omega man117

Posted by: JohnyRL
I dont like the look of the old AR, thats the point of the thread. I like Reach's. I want reach's ;(


It is a different model weapon. The gun does not even have a 60 round mag. There are accuracy differences. They are not the same length. TWO DIFFERENT WEAPONS. THE END. DEAL WITH IT. One cannot replace the other in any logical way, even if it is just the 3D model. It would break cannon. MA5B DOES NOT EQUAL MA37. Don't like it? Get Halo Custom Edition for the PC and mod it in yourself so you don't have to bother the intelligent people that know it would not logicaly work.

A graphics upgrade is good. Replacing an entire 3D model of somthing with somthing completely different is wrong.

Now stop whinning all over the forums.


[Edited on 07.22.2011 9:45 PM PDT]

  • 07.22.2011 9:37 PM PDT

I agree about the AR. But i prefer reach's pistol design, i hope they still work on it. Or at least give us the option to change, once it performs the same way it doesnt break cannon. Cannon doesnt give its appearance. So i hope they change if theres no problem.... because in my opinion, the new AR looks out of place on a grand level.
Posted by: ARACHN0TRON
The old, shiny and white pistol looked cooler anyways. As for the AR. It kind of looks a little weird but remeber that they're still working on them.


[Edited on 07.22.2011 9:40 PM PDT]

  • 07.22.2011 9:39 PM PDT

http://www.halopedian.com/MA5B

Read that entire page, even the info box to the far right. It describes some aspects of its appearence. That includes length which is obiously different than the MA37. Also the MA5K, which is featured in a few books, is based off the MA5B. On the front cover of Ghosts of Onyx you can see a MA5K. It looks like a smaller version of a MA5B and that is exactly what it is. If the MA5B looked like the MA37, then wouldn't the MA5K look like it aswell?


There is also several comics and Halo Legends videos that show the MA5B as it appears in Halo 1. If they changed it then they would have to find some logical reason why they did. There is none.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot Halo Wars. Want to explain that one also?

[Edited on 07.22.2011 9:49 PM PDT]

  • 07.22.2011 9:48 PM PDT

In all that explain to me where the crime is in at least making it an option to change it from the menu maybe. We can already add skulls. Hurr durr grunts didnt exp0De. That breaks cann0n!
Brrrrr What? Confetti, that unrealistiC, grunts didnt haz confetti!
Aesthetics and appearance > Cannon
Posted by: the omega man117
http://www.halopedian.com/MA5B

Read that entire page, even the info box to the far right. It describes some aspects of its appearence. That includes length which is obiously different than the MA37. Also the MA5K, which is featured in a few books, is based off the MA5B. On the front cover of Ghosts of Onyx you can see a MA5K. It looks like a smaller version of a MA5B and that is exactly what it is. If the MA5B looked like the MA37, then wouldn't the MA5K look like it aswell?


There is also several comics and Halo Legends videos that show the MA5B as it appears in Halo 1. If they changed it then they would have to find some logical reason why they did. There is none.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot Halo Wars. Want to explain that one also?

  • 07.22.2011 10:00 PM PDT

Besides, watch the e3 Demo, when he swicthes to classic mode, there isnt much of a change in the rifle. The place holder reach rifle just looked more detailed and grough and dirty. with a few tactical dents and sinks here and there. SAME RIFLE.

  • 07.22.2011 10:03 PM PDT

http://www.halopedian.com/Halopedia:Canon_Policy

Last time I checked skulls were not part of the story so they are not canon. So to play the game as canon you would turn them off.

Having an option to switch the 3D models of two weapons? That is just unlogical. Either mod the game when it comes out or get Halo Custom Edition and edit all the campaign maps to have the MA37 instead of the MA5B. Just don't whine about your idiotic idea that is never going to happen.

  • 07.22.2011 10:07 PM PDT


Posted by: JohnyRL
Besides, watch the e3 Demo, when he swicthes to classic mode, there isnt much of a change in the rifle. The place holder reach rifle just looked more detailed and grough and dirty. with a few tactical dents and sinks here and there. SAME RIFLE.


I will make a picture of the weapon from the trailer and the MA37 side by side and upload it to photobucket. They are the same. They may look slightly different because the veiwing angle of Halo 1 and Halo Reach are different.

[Edited on 07.22.2011 10:09 PM PDT]

  • 07.22.2011 10:09 PM PDT

http://s623.photobucket.com/albums/tt311/omega117a/?action=vi ew&current=proof.png

They are the same. You can actualy see the holding animation is from the MA5B and it just barely fits with the MA37.

  • 07.22.2011 10:25 PM PDT

Your point?
Posted by: the omega man117
http://s623.photobucket.com/albums/tt311/omega117a/?action=vi ew&current=proof.png

They are the same. You can actualy see the holding animation is from the MA5B and it just barely fits with the MA37.

  • 07.22.2011 10:34 PM PDT

You said they were slightly different. They arent.

  • 07.22.2011 10:35 PM PDT

Fear the Unicorn

Hate to break the -blam!-ing at eachother and all, and I may have missed something, but the video with the Reach rifle is uploaded after the grunt funeral video.

  • 07.22.2011 10:44 PM PDT

Posted by: JohnyRL
A weapon is named by what it does. Not how it looks. Its still an MA5B assault rifle even if it looks like a fluffy bunny. Once it performs the same way.

If you find an AKS-74 that has the same rate of fire and effective range as an AK-74, the AKS-74 does not suddenly become an AK-74; the AKS has a very distinctive folding stock, and as such has a different designation. Even if you put a bunch of duct tape on the folding stock so that it cannot fold, you still have an AKS-74, not an AK-74.

  • 07.22.2011 11:59 PM PDT

They're not using Reach visuals. Since you're referring to the new gameplay footage with commentary, the guy said the footage was taken from the build they used for the E3 announcement, which was when lots of the models were placeholders

  • 07.23.2011 4:08 AM PDT

They are. Watch the demo where he switches.
Posted by: the omega man117
You said they were slightly different. They arent.

  • 07.23.2011 8:34 AM PDT

Sadly you are wrong, its an early build. So the reach rifle skin is gone... It suited the game aesthetically so much better...
Posted by: MEANmatt1193
Hate to break the -blam!-ing at eachother and all, and I may have missed something, but the video with the Reach rifle is uploaded after the grunt funeral video.

  • 07.23.2011 8:35 AM PDT

Urm yea deh. Thats kind of summarizes what my post says....
Posted by: demainiac1999
They're not using Reach visuals. Since you're referring to the new gameplay footage with commentary, the guy said the footage was taken from the build they used for the E3 announcement, which was when lots of the models were placeholders

  • 07.23.2011 8:36 AM PDT

The bottom line is, as you said in your origional post, that your opinion is pointless. That said, stop whinning about somthing that will never happen.

  • 07.23.2011 8:56 AM PDT

Frog blast the ventcore!

Wow, Why the hell would they create beautiful new versions of the Halo CE assault rife and magnum just to go back to the Reach weapons? That's a piss off.

  • 07.23.2011 1:35 PM PDT

I have every right to express my opinion bro. gtfo
Posted by: the omega man117
The bottom line is, as you said in your origional post, that your opinion is pointless. That said, stop whinning about somthing that will never happen.

  • 07.23.2011 6:05 PM PDT

Did you see that trailer? The new weapon are damn ugly. HIDEOUS
Posted by: crosseyedmonkee
Wow, Why the hell would they create beautiful new versions of the Halo CE assault rife and magnum just to go back to the Reach weapons? That's a piss off.

  • 07.23.2011 6:05 PM PDT

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