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Subject: 343i thinks Master Chief = Halo, that is wrong...

I wake up to find myself
After all these years
And where all the time has gone
Still seems so unclear

Posted by: WEDGESKYWALKER
And starwars started with a -blam!- looking out to the sun, and ended with the end of a baddass, things change


Good thing Halo isn't Star Wars.

  • 07.23.2011 6:29 PM PDT

Halo is mainly about forerunner.
Halo 4 is going to be about forerunner.

There you go.
They're heading in the perfect direction.

Not sure if you noticed this, but MC is sort of the vessel for forerunner exploration, or at least he has been. In Reach and ODST there was no chief and a resounding lack of forerunner stuff.

Not sure if you notice this but 343i has already pumped out a lot of content with it's anime run (art style aside, it did a good job at the end of the day in terms of canon), is doing superb with it's motion comics (and evolutions which it is based upon), and both books have absolutely great authors and should be good. None of this was about the chief, actually.

[Edited on 07.23.2011 6:38 PM PDT]

  • 07.23.2011 6:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ageless Durandal
Posted by: WEDGESKYWALKER
And starwars started with a -blam!- looking out to the sun, and ended with the end of a baddass, things change


Good thing Halo isn't Star Wars.
Youre right...starwars is good

  • 07.23.2011 7:05 PM PDT
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It's Hazard Time

ODST = Halo spin off, but a good one.
Reach = bad CoD wanna be and weak characters, not Halo.
Halo Wars = good story, bad gameplay (too simple). Halo = Chief and Cortana, maybe a few ODST's and other allies (Johnson) but Halo without Chief = 99% chance of fail

  • 07.23.2011 7:25 PM PDT


Posted by: WEDGESKYWALKER

Posted by: Ageless Durandal
Posted by: WEDGESKYWALKER
And starwars started with a -blam!- looking out to the sun, and ended with the end of a baddass, things change


Good thing Halo isn't Star Wars.
Youre right...starwars is good


If you hate Halo so much why are you wasting your time here?

  • 07.23.2011 7:56 PM PDT

Remember those times when we all had something better to be doing, but didn't do it? Those were good times. Gooood times

If you guys saw the comic con halo CEA terminal video, you would see that even in CEA we can expect a new view on the rings and forerunners... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7fqxVrDS3Y

[Edited on 07.23.2011 8:25 PM PDT]

  • 07.23.2011 8:25 PM PDT

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I disagree, the best three Halo's were the ones staring the chief. Not that the other 3 were bad, they were great games.

  • 07.23.2011 9:45 PM PDT

I wake up to find myself
After all these years
And where all the time has gone
Still seems so unclear

Posted by: WEDGESKYWALKER

Posted by: Ageless Durandal
Posted by: WEDGESKYWALKER
And starwars started with a -blam!- looking out to the sun, and ended with the end of a baddass, things change


Good thing Halo isn't Star Wars.
Youre right...starwars is good


;)

  • 07.23.2011 10:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Wizzen james
I disagree, the best three Halo's were the ones staring the chief. Not that the other 3 were bad, they were great games.

In terms of fictional canon.
Lots of people say this based upon the multiplayer component, and I don't understand how people can place Halo 1 high up. It's jsut nostalgic. Now I love the campaign, played it in 2001, but the multiplayer, while it had some good maps and the mp balance and feel was good at the time, the mp balance was far superior in the other games.

  • 07.24.2011 4:10 AM PDT

Halo died with Bungie
Bungie died with Halo

How 'bout a Halo RPG, like Fallout?
I bet that would be good if done right.

  • 07.24.2011 4:17 AM PDT

Hopefully everyone will die in Halo 6 so they can't continue it. Historic games such as Reach are much better because like Halo CE they have SELF CONTAINED CAMPAIGNS.

[Edited on 07.24.2011 4:22 AM PDT]

  • 07.24.2011 4:21 AM PDT


Posted by: WaffleFish23
How 'bout a Halo RPG, like Fallout?
I bet that would be good if done right.

Eh, if it were in a small open environment like ODST/ The Darkness and extremely high details with spaces more like levels that you at least at first meet isolated (think ODST but you would be able to actually go to those places on foot).

I mean, I like rpgs but I dislike the idea that and open environment with endlessness is better than one custom crafted, tighter, and shorter.

  • 07.24.2011 4:23 AM PDT


Posted by: Xalrons4410
Hopefully everyone will die in Halo 6 so they can't continue it. Historic games such as Reach are much better because like Halo CE they have SELF CONTAINED CAMPAIGNS.

Halo 4 will probably be self contained, at least away from Halo 1-3. I mean, like Reach it'll help tons to know the rest, probably a bit more so, but it's probably a very good intro to the series.

I mean, I honestly felt like Rwach's story isn't that good. I like development and how the characters interact, but the overall events and military persona (as opposed to covenant or forerunner) is sort of disappointing to me. I like it, but me want forerunner!!!!

  • 07.24.2011 4:25 AM PDT

and RPG? Halo Effect?

:)

It's not just the Chief that is a pinnacle character in Halo 1,2,3, but he makes the best player protagonist. In many ways his story is central the plot progression of Halo, ODST and Reach didn't really progress anything, they fleshed out back story, but I already knew the outcome to Reach about a minute after I knew the premise.

  • 07.24.2011 5:42 AM PDT


Posted by: Raxxman
and RPG? Halo Effect?

:)

It's not just the Chief that is a pinnacle character in Halo 1,2,3, but he makes the best player protagonist. In many ways his story is central the plot progression of Halo, ODST and Reach didn't really progress anything, they fleshed out back story, but I already knew the outcome to Reach about a minute after I knew the premise.


IMO, chief is semi-uninteresting as a character. I don't know if I could stand massive focus on solely him like I could with a character such as Commander Shepard from Mass Effect.

  • 07.24.2011 5:50 AM PDT

I think that when they say that they are not only referring to the Chief but everything he represents. In the campaigns where you play as the Chief you are often on incredible forerunner installations, uncovering the secrets of the galaxy and the forces that shaped it. The side stories where not bad but where much more simplified humans vs aliens type stories. I'm glad to hear that with the new trilogy they are going back to a story that is more definitively Halo.

  • 07.24.2011 7:41 AM PDT

Frankie is in 343i, as long as he is there, I have no worries.
Also, the human race has finished the war in Halo 3. Master Chief is stranded Hell knows where. It's him that has to survive. But I think that either he's gonna have the lost crew of The Spirit of Fire as allies, or maybe some other race is gonna help him. Maybe forerunners... Who knows. We're gonna see. It's too early to make such speculations.

[Edited on 07.24.2011 7:46 AM PDT]

  • 07.24.2011 7:43 AM PDT

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Halo = Ring worlds

Thats what the games where based on, and humanities struggle against them, i want a return to CE, away from Earth battling through the forerunner constructs, and if its with a character we love - great! But i would love to fight as a marine, or an ODST, anything. Its about the struggle, not the man.

  • 07.24.2011 7:46 AM PDT


Posted by: thearbiter2104
Frankie is in 343i, as long as he is there, I have no worries.
Also, the human race has finished the war in Halo 3. Master Chief is stranded Hell knows where. It's him that has to survive. But I think that either he's gonna have the lost crew of The Spirit of Fire as allies, or maybe some other race is gonna help him. Maybe forerunners... Who knows. We're gonna see. It's too early to make such speculations.


I don't think the new trilogy will be limited to the fringes of the galaxy, Halo 4 probably will be out in the unknown regions for most of the game if not its entirety, but I honestly don't think the whole trilogy will be limited to the LD and its stellar neighborhood. I think a return to UNSC or other known space is a very highly likely option for Halo 5 and 6.

  • 07.24.2011 11:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
Halo will go to Halo 6, HALO 6!!!!

All about Master Chief and his continued story.

ehh, I don't like the sound of that.

To me, halo is more than MC, Halo is about the battles of the men and women, fighting to defend themselves from the covenant and the many people who served and gave their lives to defend their species from destruction.

I liked Reach, ODST, and Halo wars becuase I saw different perspectives on the Human/Covenant war from the beginning to end of the war.

With that being said, already announcing to make a new Trilogy to Halo 6, that is milking it.

What is sad is we have been accustomed to, "If it ain't got the chief, it ain't Halo".

I simply don't think that is true and if 343i pans to handle Halo that way, it is going to suck.

What do you guys think?



Don't mean to sound like a Jackass, but what makes you think there won't be side stories or expansions? just curious.

  • 07.24.2011 9:40 PM PDT

This is a terrible thread.

How about this as an example:
George Lucas decides to make a new trilogy. He decides, "You know what, Star Wars isn't about its main character. Its about his dad, we need to expand this universe!"

This is exactly what all of you are wishing for, you are wishing fro Jar Jar Binks in Halo. Let that sink in.

  • 07.24.2011 11:17 PM PDT
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The saint is the man who walks through the dark paths of the world, himself a light."
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I'm more interested in hearing about the Covenant, Forerunners and Precursors than the UNSC.
I think that's why ODST's and Reach's campaign just didn't feel 'right'.

  • 07.24.2011 11:25 PM PDT

The best of both worlds is what we'll be getting in the new trilogy.

The forerunners/precursor history uncovered and then brought screaming into the current games through the adventures of MC over the new trilogy.

Pretty straight forward really and gets the main protaganist involved while expanding plus staying true to the lore.

What is so hard to get about that?

  • 07.24.2011 11:36 PM PDT


Posted by: LongMasterWolf
This is a terrible thread.

How about this as an example:
George Lucas decides to make a new trilogy. He decides, "You know what, Star Wars isn't about its main character. Its about his dad, we need to expand this universe!"

This is exactly what all of you are wishing for, you are wishing fro Jar Jar Binks in Halo. Let that sink in.


Actually, I don't see that as true.

I mean, Star Wars has never truly had a 'main' character. Sure Luke was a major one, but he was the major character for the original trilogy, not the entire universe. Come on and be serious, would you rather EVERYTHING Star Wars be about Luke Skywalker of Han Solo?

  • 07.24.2011 11:41 PM PDT


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Posted by: LongMasterWolf
This is a terrible thread.

How about this as an example:
George Lucas decides to make a new trilogy. He decides, "You know what, Star Wars isn't about its main character. Its about his dad, we need to expand this universe!"

This is exactly what all of you are wishing for, you are wishing fro Jar Jar Binks in Halo. Let that sink in.


Actually, I don't see that as true.

I mean, Star Wars has never truly had a 'main' character. Sure Luke was a major one, but he was the major character for the original trilogy, not the entire universe. Come on and be serious, would you rather EVERYTHING Star Wars be about Luke Skywalker of Han Solo?


Clearly I was going for Hyperbole. But the fact is you have to have a character that people have grown to love, to trust, to know. Even if your character isn't nearly as developed as he should be, you have to have a starting ground, especially if you are going to go away from the central plot line of the former trilogy (The UNSC-Covenant War).

  • 07.25.2011 12:11 AM PDT

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