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Subject: Call me dumb, but.

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

This is a Cryptum thread, leave if you don't want spoilers


OK so I just read through Halo: Cryptum and I feel like there's something I'm missing. The prisoner that was contained on the human planet? The one that escaped? Is that the Gravemind?

Because we know from the Halo 3 terminals that Mendicant Bias spoke with the Gravemind at some point and shortly after allied with the Flood. We also know from Cryptum that Mendicant spent 40 years in the vicinity of the Prisoner before turning on the Forerunner.

So does that mean the Precursor trapped on that planet was the Gravemind? Or am I being dumb?

  • 07.25.2011 2:59 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Hey Dumb Butt.

But no, yeah, there's a lot of speculation on the connection between Gravemind and the Prisoner. Nothing entirely definitive, but you can find a lot of good theories.

  • 07.25.2011 3:07 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

Oh, so it's another one of those subjects? I went back a few pages to see if there was another thread on this.

The only thing that doesn't add up is the fact that the prisoner is described as looking like an arthropod, which doesn't sound like the giant plant which you see in Halo 2.

  • 07.25.2011 3:12 AM PDT

I wake up to find myself
After all these years
And where all the time has gone
Still seems so unclear

It's speculated that The Timeless One is later mutated into the Gravemind. The time-line would suggest that, heavily.

He called himself "The Timeless One" in the lines of Cryptum and all I think of is Gravemind's quote from Halo 3.
"I am a timeless chorus; join your voice with mine, and sing victory everlasting." - Gravemind.

  • 07.25.2011 5:27 AM PDT
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It's speculated that The Timeless One is later mutated into the Gravemind. The time-line would suggest that, heavily.

He called himself "The Timeless One" in the lines of Cryptum and all I think of is Gravemind's quote from Halo 3.
"I am a timeless chorus; join your voice with mine, and sing victory everlasting." - Gravemind.


Looks like i have to support you AGAIN :)

Medicant bias went AWOL for 43 years talking to a highly intelligent alien- He is missing for roughly 40-50 years in cryptum*

Said life-form seduced Bias- bias goes rouge in cryptum

Medicant bias attacks the forerunners under this intelligence- he attacks the capital in cryptum


This is where the asterisk comes in, it wasn't until halo evolutions that the gravemind himself said that an AI once supported him which is where we draw the initial connections between the prisoner being the gravemind.

So lets look at the gravemind and prisoner.

Gravemind is a "timeless chorus"- the prisoner is the timeless one

Gravemind "I have listened, through rock and metal and time. Now I shall talk, and you shall listen." - The humans had always asked the prisoner questions about the universe. The prisoner was also found buried under ground then had its caged reinforced and then had a timebolt placed on it.

Gravemind- "Time... has taught me patience! But basking in new freedom..."- the prisoner was trapped in time thus has learned to be patient, he is also free once more

Gravemind-Defeat is simply the addition of time to a sentence I never deserved... but you imposed." - The prisoner was sentenced (duh) and beating the flood now only adds time to this (waiting to come back) humans have imposed this by fighting instead of joining.

  • 07.25.2011 7:19 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

They need to release the next book now.

  • 07.25.2011 9:03 AM PDT