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LONG, BUT GOOD STUFF:)

(Spoilers for those of you who haven't read First Strike)

Many people have asked the question, how will Master Chief save earth? It's been explained by theories dealing with the Flood comming back, the Covenant Alliance breaking up, and even the Forerunners returning. What I have yet to hear, and there is a plethra of evidence to support it, is a theory dealing with Forerunner technology, in particular, the artifact in First Strike that caused time anomolies.

If you've read First Strike, then you may have noticed the time/date issues. If you haven't noticed, I'll give you a quick run down. Before Master Chief rescues the remaining Spartans on Reach, and while he is enrout to Reach on the stollen Covenant flagship, the date is Sept. 23, 2552. At the end of the book, after the remaining Spartans on Reach have been resuced by the Master Chief, the date is Sept. 13, 2552, some 10 days before they were even rescued??? For those of you who need to see it with your own eyes, turn to Section 3 (Rescue) and look at the date log on the captured Covenant flagship while it's in slipspace. Then, look through all the date logs from Section 3 untill the end of the book , or atleast until Sections 6. Interesting isn't it! These dates aren't missprints, there is a consistent line of events to explain it. It has to do with the strange artifact found deep under ONI headquarters at Reach. If you remember the artifact, then you should remember that it manipulated the space and time around it. One example of this would be the strange events that occured while the Master Chief and his rag tag crew were in slipspace on the stollen Covenant flagship. Also, you should recall the strange things that happen when the Spartans on Reach find the artifact ( I don't want to give to much away for those who haven't read the book. ) The basis for my theory is built on this time/date issue, which is why I have tried to explain it. So here is my theory;)

I'm thinking, that if more of these artifacts are found on earth or some other human colony (which is likely considering that several Forerunner "objects and structures" have been found by the Covenant in the Human colonies), then ONI, or more likely Dr. Hasely may find a way to harness the powers of the artifact/s. We know that the artifact/s can manipulate time and space... my whole point in the top two paragraphs was to show that. Couldn't it be possible that Master Chief could use one of these artifacts to go back in time. Why go back and time? To save ALL the Spartans on Reach!

I know, I know, you're probably thinking, why not just go back in time and stop the war to begin with? How would the Master Chief, or even all the Human forces stop the war? The Humans never had an advantage, weapon, or chance to defeat the Covenant in the past, especially in space battles, which is how the Covenant advanced to Earth. We know that the future only holds destruction for Humanity, if things keep going the way they are. So, the Master Chief couldn't go into the future to get some "Supper Weapon" because there wouldn't be a future! So then you might ask, how is going back and saving the rest of the Spartans going to defeat the Covenant? I would say, getting all the Spartans back won't defeat the Covenant, but they would have more than a chance of saving Earth... which is all that is left of Humanity. Spartans won't make a difference in a space battle, but they are the closest thing to perfection when it comes to ground warfare. The Covenant won't glass Earth, there is to much evidence pointing to a full ground invasion. So bringing the full power of ALL the Spartans to Earth could easily change the tide of battle for Earth! As for defeating the Covenant, I think it will take a combination of several theroies... especially the ones dealing with the Flood and the Covenant Alliance System:)

I know there are several holes in this theory, but wether the Master Chief will go back in time to save the Spartans or not, I think it is highly possible that some sort of time trarveling event will occur in Halo 2. Why would they put it in the book if it wasn't going to lead to something?

[Edited on 5/12/2004 1:36:52 PM]

  • 05.12.2004 12:47 AM PDT
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i say possible, unlikely, but possible

  • 05.12.2004 1:08 AM PDT

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  • 05.12.2004 1:24 AM PDT
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They don't go back in time, the author is simply going back to a specific era to follow up an event that had just happened in the book.

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ill have 2 say interesting theory, i have to say i can believe it.
I think if this will take place in halo 2, dr Halsey will have a lot to do with it.
I think there is a connection between the artifact and dr halsey fleeing and taking the spartan with her!
I hope this will b revealed in halo2, becaus i was a little shocked by the difference in the book: first strike and the game halo 2.
Becaus halo 2 will take place on earth and other planets, while first strike was more kind of space battles and things happening on reach!
But will bungie put this theory to reality is the big question, will bungie take a story that have been told so much more before!
Becaus when you think about, how much games and movies wherent about time travel and saving Earth!
So i have 2 say, there is a chance your theory will take place, lets say it can happen!
But i also believe why would bungie steal an old story, i think one of there prioritys is staying origenal!
Not that the whole story is origenal, becaus how many storys have there been about a super soldier saving humanity!
But what ever said humanity will concur the covenant, maybe it could have the same ending as matrix revolutions!
There is also a lot of talking about halo3, why should the story end in halo 2???















  • 05.12.2004 3:54 AM PDT

Posted by: SPARTAN 00029
They don't go back in time, the author is simply going back to a specific era to follow up an event that had just happened in the book.


No, they do go back in time. I'm not talking about the recollection/memory sections of the book. Notice how the date logs in Sect. 3 on go from Sept. 23, 2552, then while in slipspace with the artifact the date log changes to Error Anomaly, and finally it changes to Revised date Sept. 13, 2552. This is not going back to a specific era, it's going back in time:)

  • 05.12.2004 11:38 AM PDT
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Ill check it tommorow if some 1 hasnt done it because im too lazy

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it could be possible... but it would be a part of the storyline of the game.. there wouldnt be a timetravel weapon... that wouldnt be halo

  • 05.12.2004 11:54 AM PDT

Posted by: Reclaimer NL
But will bungie put this theory to reality is the big question, will bungie take a story that have been told so much more before!
Becaus when you think about, how much games and movies wherent about time travel and saving Earth


My take on this, is that there is no such thing as an original story. Everything (ideas, stories, etc.) is just a regurgitad version of something from our past. Even the Matrix, which so many people find origianal???, is not an origianl story. It was just repackaged for our A.D.D. culture that didn't never understand it in the first place. (Not talking about you or anyone else in this thread)

One more analogy to make my point... look at Bush and Kerry. There is no REAL difference between the two. They are, in essence, the same "product". They've just been wrapped with different illusion/distractios to make the public think other wise (I won't be surprised if someone writes to argue against this). This "wrapping with illusions/distractions", the illusions being something that draws your attention away from the core essence of a product, story, idea, is what all great story tellers do... including Bungie. So, regaurdles of wether or not Bungie includes this "time traveling theory" of mine, Halo 2 will be a retelling of some story, event, or idea from the past.

This wasn't meant in a, "I can turn your own comment against you" kind of way:)

  • 05.12.2004 12:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Septorzero
it could be possible... but it would be a part of the storyline of the game.. there wouldnt be a timetravel weapon... that wouldnt be halo


The artifact that causes time anomalies isn't a weapon, it is Forerunner technology... which makes it highly likely that it would be apart of Halo:)

  • 05.12.2004 12:10 PM PDT
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if MC can go back in time then why doesen't he go get that eliet and Sgt.Johnson who were hugging and show everyone that we can live in peace :)

  • 05.12.2004 5:35 PM PDT
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The time travel will never happen because terminator has worn that down to nothing. Also i dont think the halo2 story line is going to be that complicated. i think "first strike" is just here to fill in what happens in the time between halo1 and halo2. Not to make it impossible to follow the storyline in halo2 if you havnt read the book.

  • 05.12.2004 6:29 PM PDT

So, I guess since the books don't have an influencd on the game, then begining of Halo 2 will be in the right where Halo 1 left off??? The books are very important to the storyline of the game, but they aren't important to the gameplay. If you've read any interviews with the author's of the books, then you should know that Bungie writes the events in the books according to the storyline of the game. You don't have to read the books to understand the storyline of Halo 1, or have fun playing the game. The books are there for those of us who want to understand the storyline a bit better, and to have a crack at guessing what will happen in the future of the storyline. To assume that the events in the books, especially the events in First Strike, won't show up in the game, is some what off. They go hand in hand:)

[Edited on 7/3/2004 5:04:41 PM]

  • 05.12.2004 7:25 PM PDT