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Subject: So what if Spartan IIs had children together?

"It will not be we who reach Alpha Centauri, and the other nearby stars, it will be a species very like us, but with more of our strengths and fewer of our weaknesses, more confident, far-seeing, capable, and prudent. For all our failings, despite our limitations and fallibilities, we humans are capable of greatness."-Carl Sagan

Would they share traits with their parents? Like advanced strength and eyesight?

How different would that child be if the other person was not a Spartan?

  • 07.25.2011 2:45 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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All I know is I wouldn't want to play dodgeball against them.

  • 07.25.2011 2:46 PM PDT

"It will not be we who reach Alpha Centauri, and the other nearby stars, it will be a species very like us, but with more of our strengths and fewer of our weaknesses, more confident, far-seeing, capable, and prudent. For all our failings, despite our limitations and fallibilities, we humans are capable of greatness."-Carl Sagan


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
All I know is I wouldn't want to play dodgeball against them.


Ouch.

Especially if Linda had a kid and had the same skill for aim as she does.

  • 07.25.2011 2:47 PM PDT

I think the newborn would be a Spartan, if Spartan's have chromozones (my spelling sucks) like humans then all their traits (like humans) would mix together taking the strengths and weaknesses of both Spartan IIs.
I think

  • 07.25.2011 2:48 PM PDT

Thats just an idea though.


[Edited on 07.25.2011 2:50 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2011 2:49 PM PDT

Spartan woman are near impossible to have children, Maria isn't going to have kids. They had their bones hardened to a point of no expansion, the baby wouldn't fit! It would be a miscarriage every single time. Another setback is their suppressed -blam!- drive, doesn't mean they can't, although it is still a setback.

[Edited on 07.25.2011 2:54 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2011 2:54 PM PDT

Two spartans (I don't see 2's and 3's being that different overall) would probably have a child that is faster, stronger, and smarter then your normal human.

Wouldn't perhaps be as good as a Spartan, but definitely better then normal people.

  • 07.25.2011 2:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
Spartan woman are near impossible to have children, Maria isn't going to have kids. They had their bones hardened to a point of no expansion, the baby wouldn't fit! It would be a miscarriage every single time. Another setback is their suppressed -blam!- drive, doesn't mean they can't, although it is still a setback.

C-section?

  • 07.25.2011 2:55 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: mojeda101
Spartan woman are near impossible to have children, Maria isn't going to have kids. They had their bones hardened to a point of no expansion, the baby wouldn't fit! It would be a miscarriage every single time. Another setback is their suppressed -blam!- drive, doesn't mean they can't, although it is still a setback.

C-section?
Possibly, but that would maybe be the only way they could deliver.

  • 07.25.2011 2:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: mojeda101
Spartan woman are near impossible to have children, Maria isn't going to have kids. They had their bones hardened to a point of no expansion, the baby wouldn't fit! It would be a miscarriage every single time. Another setback is their suppressed -blam!- drive, doesn't mean they can't, although it is still a setback.


c-section, test tube baby,etc

  • 07.25.2011 2:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: mojeda101
Spartan woman are near impossible to have children, Maria isn't going to have kids. They had their bones hardened to a point of no expansion, the baby wouldn't fit! It would be a miscarriage every single time. Another setback is their suppressed -blam!- drive, doesn't mean they can't, although it is still a setback.

C-section?
Possibly, but that would maybe be the only way they could deliver.

So be it. Perhaps surrogates could be used? Harvest a female Spartan-IIs egg, get whatever sperm you want, and then place the egg in another woman? Heard a story like that a long time ago, if not I'm sure they could clone an artificial womb.

  • 07.25.2011 2:57 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: mojeda101
Spartan woman are near impossible to have children, Maria isn't going to have kids. They had their bones hardened to a point of no expansion, the baby wouldn't fit! It would be a miscarriage every single time. Another setback is their suppressed -blam!- drive, doesn't mean they can't, although it is still a setback.

C-section?
Possibly, but that would maybe be the only way they could deliver.

So be it. Perhaps surrogates could be used? Harvest a female Spartan-IIs egg, get whatever sperm you want, and then place the egg in another woman? Heard a story like that a long time ago, if not I'm sure they could clone an artificial womb.
Agreed, it's 500 years in the future, and they can develop flash clones, something would work.

  • 07.25.2011 2:58 PM PDT

Any child sired by a Spartan would would be regular in every way. Any boost in strength, speed or intelligence they might have would come from the fact that Spartans were ideal human specimens to begin with.

The augmentations that the Spartans recieved were biomechanical and biochemical. Nothing was done to them that would positively alter their genetic structure.

Look at it this way: if a man with a artificial leg had a kid, would the kid be born with one?

  • 07.25.2011 3:17 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

They'd probably be all kinds of -blam!- up. Spartan genetics has been messed with so much that even if they could have kids those kids would have a laundry list of syndromes.

  • 07.25.2011 3:24 PM PDT

We kill that which we do not understand...and then promptly tea-bag it.

Forgive me Bungie Gods for what I am about to say...And that's why children, "special" people are so strong.

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  • 07.25.2011 5:05 PM PDT

As far as I'm concerned, the augmentations didn't mess with their genetic code. They would be normal kids. They'd have the very good genes though.

  • 07.25.2011 5:08 PM PDT

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awesome genes, probably some of the most athletic and intelligent children ever born... but they would not get abnormally fast reflexes or enhanced eyesight, this is assuming they get around the fact spartans have no sex drive and the possibility that they're sterile from the drugs.

  • 07.25.2011 5:31 PM PDT


Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
awesome genes, probably some of the most athletic and intelligent children ever born... but they would not get abnormally fast reflexes or enhanced eyesight, this is assuming they get around the fact spartans have no sex drive and the possibility that they're sterile from the drugs.


A: Reduced does not mean gone.
B: Nothing about the augmentations even mentioned being sterile.

  • 07.25.2011 5:56 PM PDT

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Wouldn't the Spartan II traits be considered acquired traits? And if so, then they cannot be passed on to their offspring.

  • 07.25.2011 6:06 PM PDT


Posted by: Sniffy66
As far as I'm concerned, the augmentations didn't mess with their genetic code. They would be normal kids. They'd have the very good genes though.


This pretty much, and the genes they did get would more than likely have all the markers Dr. Halsey looked for in spartan candidates.

Nothing in the augmentation process seems to have targeted, or seems to have a chance to change the spartans' germ cells.

  • 07.25.2011 6:41 PM PDT

Nate-117

The kid would acquire the trait only if the augmentation changed their DNA, acquired traits do not pass on to their children on a non-DNA level. Like if you were very muscular it doesn't not mean your child would be muscular, because you muscles are an acquired trait from working out. Things like AIDs pass on to children because the virus changes parts of our DNA

  • 07.25.2011 6:54 PM PDT

Nate-117

Oh yeah, btw Spartan males do not produce sperm and Spartan de las are infertile.

  • 07.25.2011 6:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Nate II7
Oh yeah, btw Spartan males do not produce sperm and Spartan de las are infertile.


Spartans are not infertile. There's even Maria, who retired early to have a family. And I'm damn well sure she didn't retire to raise a house of adopted earthborn kids.

[Edited on 07.25.2011 7:03 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2011 7:02 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Nate II7
Oh yeah, btw Spartan males do not produce sperm and Spartan de las are infertile.

Wrong.

  • 07.25.2011 7:04 PM PDT

Nate-117

Prove it. Cause I can rove my point.


Spartan II's were given an extreme amount of steroids and other chemicals for their augmentations. Guess what steroids don in extreme amounts? In men sperm production ceases. In women they become infertile. So, prove me wrong.
Oh and don't just say Wrong. It makes you look like an idiot

  • 07.25.2011 7:39 PM PDT

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