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Posted by: raganok99

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Posted by: raganok99


What? In reality, Halo: Reach was actual failed experiment. Have you even read my post at all?

See my post above, bub.


Are you an idiot? Reach was a success in about a billion ways, and is bungies ideal halo (as stated in the vidoc)... so shut it


Ummm... Calling me idiot, doesn't going to help your argument, it makes worse for you.

And, yes, I have seem vidoc. The fact is that Bungie is blind in their own ways and it's obvious they would lie because its classic business movie- admitting that they love their own products to generate more profit.

And a billion ways? Oh wow, wrong. WRONG!

Fact is that Reach is FLAWED game. Every video games is ALWAYS flawed. Remember that.

And I already explained Covies... THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY ARE DISSIPATED! DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT dissipated means?! It means it's wiped out! Destroyed! Burned out! scattered!

Brutes and Elites are at war, they're busy. Grunts, Drones, hunters, etc are at home or war with those elites or brutes.

And UNSC isn't going to be there either! Know why? BECAUSE IT IS LABELED AS UNKNOWN PLANET. Go look up on dictionary of "unknown" and you'll know why.


You don't have the ability to "think out of the box", do you? I'll just say this: You're automatically ASSUMING the entire game, and frankly, the entire new trilogy, takes place in this one "UNKNOWN PLANET" environment. All one has to do to see how mind-numbingly simplistic this concept is, especially within the Halo'verse, is to view the past 3 games within the trilogy. Halo: Reach and Halo 3:ODST, would be obvious exclusions, as they're sideline games that were not a part of the MC Space Opera. Halo Wars had multiple environments, though one would expect this in an RTS.

I'll give you the possibility that Halo 4 takes place ONLY on this planet, given it's setting up the new paradigm to broaden later in the next two, but that's it. Halo 5 & 6 are open for the taking into where they take us.

Please, for the love of god, stop paroting cliche generic one-liners of the current "status" of the Halo'verse to support your redundant and two-dimensional claims of where the next trilogy is going.

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Posted by: the rabid grunt

Posted by: raganok99


What? In reality, Halo: Reach was actual failed experiment. Have you even read my post at all?

See my post above, bub. [/quote]

Are you an idiot? Reach was a success in about a billion ways, and is bungies ideal halo (as stated in the vidoc)... so shut it[/quote]

Ummm... Calling me idiot, doesn't going to help your argument, it makes worse for you.

And, yes, I have seem vidoc. The fact is that Bungie is blind in their own ways and it's obvious they would lie because its classic business movie- admitting that they love their own products to generate more profit.

And a billion ways? Oh wow, wrong. WRONG!

Fact is that Reach is FLAWED game. Every video games is ALWAYS flawed. Remember that.

And I already explained Covies... THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY ARE DISSIPATED! DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT dissipated means?! It means it's wiped out! Destroyed! Burned out! scattered!

Brutes and Elites are at war, they're busy. Grunts, Drones, hunters, etc are at home or war with those elites or brutes.

And UNSC isn't going to be there either! Know why? BECAUSE IT IS LABELED AS UNKNOWN PLANET. Go look up on dictionary of "unknown" and you'll know why.


You don't have the ability to "think out of the box", do you? I'll just say this: You're automatically ASSUMING the entire game, and frankly, the entire new trilogy, takes place in this one "UNKNOWN PLANET" environment. All one has to do to see how mind-numbingly simplistic this concept is, especially within the Halo'verse, is to view the past 3 games within the trilogy. Halo: Reach and Halo 3:ODST, would be obvious exclusions. Halo Wars had multiple environments, though one would expect this in an RTS.

Please, for the love of god, stop paroting cliche generic one-liners of the current "status" of the Halo'verse to support your redundant and two-dimensional claims of where the next trilogy is going.


Ummm, Grey proved that there will be no Covies and UNSC at Halo 4. Read his posts again.

It's time to accept that Covenant are done for, and we will meet those Forerunners and fight new enemies (Precursors, etc).

You want a proof? Ask Grey.

  • 08.08.2011 4:16 AM PDT

It's pronounced E-kid-nuh damnit, not e-chid-nuh! >.<

While the Covenant and UNSC may be out of the game, that does not exclude their races, as the Covenant was an alliance of those species.

Also, Halo cannot exist without a tie to the forerunners or the flood, because the name of the game is Halo, and excluding the installations that the series is named for, the creators of the installations, and the enemy the installations were built to destroy, makes it pointless for it to be a Halo game, especially since they are main series games.

  • 08.08.2011 4:57 AM PDT

It's pronounced E-kid-nuh damnit, not e-chid-nuh! >.<


Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: halo mosj
lets not get in an argument now the elites and brutes are fighting the UNSC may not be there but one thing is for sure the forerunners sworn enemy the Precursors will be the big bad in the new game


Whoah, no. That's false information you spouted out of your ass.

First thing, Glasslands info confirmed that UNSC is keeping peace treaty with Elites. And, Brutes and Elites are at war because Elites is hell-bent to wiping out Brutes because Brutes screwed up the Elites in days of Covenant, about Halo 2 to 3.


Little bit of a discrepancy there. The Elites and Brutes aren't at war. There are small factions of covenant forces scattered around that remain loyal even after the Covenant's defeat, but at the end of Halo 3 the Arbiter says the Sangheili are going home, because they've had enough of this Covenant nonsense.

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Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: halo mosj
lets not get in an argument now the elites and brutes are fighting the UNSC may not be there but one thing is for sure the forerunners sworn enemy the Precursors will be the big bad in the new game


Whoah, no. That's false information you spouted out of your ass.

First thing, Glasslands info confirmed that UNSC is keeping peace treaty with Elites. And, Brutes and Elites are at war because Elites is hell-bent to wiping out Brutes because Brutes screwed up the Elites in days of Covenant, about Halo 2 to 3.


Little bit of a discrepancy there. The Elites and Brutes aren't at war. There are small factions of covenant forces scattered around that remain loyal even after the Covenant's defeat, but at the end of Halo 3 the Arbiter says the Sangheili are going home, because they've had enough of this Covenant nonsense.


Do you realize that new info of Glasslands confirmed that Sangheili are still war against Brutes, right? Not entire war but very large skirmishes since Sangheilis are hell-bent to destroying Brutes to extinction.

And guess what? Glasslands are set after Halo 3.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

First off most of you are clearly not getting the point.


We have an entire timeline of "MC was never found" chief hasn't been found because the UNSC clealry couldn't find him.
Most of you don't understand how vast space is, those MAC rounds that never hit targets are going to keep flying a fractions of light speed for eons until they hit something.
That being said the Chances of the UNSC randomly finding that planet and coming to save the day is so low we will just say "0".


There is also the fact that, iunno the UNSC is trying to repair itself after a 27-28 year war that only has roughly 2 billion humans left. So they are going to need every ship available to help with reconstruction and for defense.
So sending ships out looking for a single spartan is a gross misapplication.


Now the covenant are not going to be in because they have no place in this along with the fact that every race is busy trying to deal with 3,000 years+ of wasting their time. Not to mention that if even one race appeared then the new players wouldn't get the backstory and would be forced to play the old trilogy.


So yes the post is "the UNSC will no be in Halo 4,5,6 neither will the covenant".


As for the people saying "OmGz u dn't no dat" There is a timeline for the UNSC not finding chief along with the clear issues that the covenant races are having. So until somebody makes a viable point/reason for why and how they should be in you are just promoting bad storytelling.

  • 08.08.2011 5:23 AM PDT

It's pronounced E-kid-nuh damnit, not e-chid-nuh! >.<


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Posted by: bentheechidna1

Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: halo mosj
lets not get in an argument now the elites and brutes are fighting the UNSC may not be there but one thing is for sure the forerunners sworn enemy the Precursors will be the big bad in the new game


Whoah, no. That's false information you spouted out of your ass.

First thing, Glasslands info confirmed that UNSC is keeping peace treaty with Elites. And, Brutes and Elites are at war because Elites is hell-bent to wiping out Brutes because Brutes screwed up the Elites in days of Covenant, about Halo 2 to 3.


Little bit of a discrepancy there. The Elites and Brutes aren't at war. There are small factions of covenant forces scattered around that remain loyal even after the Covenant's defeat, but at the end of Halo 3 the Arbiter says the Sangheili are going home, because they've had enough of this Covenant nonsense.


Do you realize that new info of Glasslands confirmed that Sangheili are still war against Brutes, right? Not entire war but very large skirmishes since Sangheilis are hell-bent to destroying Brutes to extinction.

And guess what? Glasslands are set after Halo 3.


What's Glasslands? Is it a new book? If so then it only makes sense I don't know the info cuz I've only read Fall of Reach, plan on getting the rest of the books and reading them.

  • 08.08.2011 5:25 AM PDT

It's pronounced E-kid-nuh damnit, not e-chid-nuh! >.<


Posted by: grey101
First off most of you are clearly not getting the point.


We have an entire timeline of "MC was never found" chief hasn't been found because the UNSC clealry couldn't find him.
Most of you don't understand how vast space is, those MAC rounds that never hit targets are going to keep flying a fractions of light speed for eons until they hit something.
That being said the Chances of the UNSC randomly finding that planet and coming to save the day is so low we will just say "0".


There is also the fact that, iunno the UNSC is trying to repair itself after a 27-28 year war that only has roughly 2 billion humans left. So they are going to need every ship available to help with reconstruction and for defense.
So sending ships out looking for a single spartan is a gross misapplication.


Now the covenant are not going to be in because they have no place in this along with the fact that every race is busy trying to deal with 3,000 years+ of wasting their time. Not to mention that if even one race appeared then the new players wouldn't get the backstory and would be forced to play the old trilogy.


So yes the post is "the UNSC will no be in Halo 4,5,6 neither will the covenant".


As for the people saying "OmGz u dn't no dat" There is a timeline for the UNSC not finding chief along with the clear issues that the covenant races are having. So until somebody makes a viable point/reason for why and how they should be in you are just promoting bad storytelling.


I'm not saying the Covenant or UNSC will be in, but I do believe that the Flood will be in, and I would be interested in seeing live forerunners or precursors.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Flood are the center point to the entire story so they will be in the trilogy in some fashion.

Forerunners are obviously in, chakas is in, and a precursor isn't unlikely.

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Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: bentheechidna1

Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: halo mosj
lets not get in an argument now the elites and brutes are fighting the UNSC may not be there but one thing is for sure the forerunners sworn enemy the Precursors will be the big bad in the new game [/quote]

Whoah, no. That's false information you spouted out of your ass.

First thing, Glasslands info confirmed that UNSC is keeping peace treaty with Elites. And, Brutes and Elites are at war because Elites is hell-bent to wiping out Brutes because Brutes screwed up the Elites in days of Covenant, about Halo 2 to 3.


Little bit of a discrepancy there. The Elites and Brutes aren't at war. There are small factions of covenant forces scattered around that remain loyal even after the Covenant's defeat, but at the end of Halo 3 the Arbiter says the Sangheili are going home, because they've had enough of this Covenant nonsense.


Do you realize that new info of Glasslands confirmed that Sangheili are still war against Brutes, right? Not entire war but very large skirmishes since Sangheilis are hell-bent to destroying Brutes to extinction.

And guess what? Glasslands are set after Halo 3.


What's Glasslands? Is it a new book? If so then it only makes sense I don't know the info cuz I've only read Fall of Reach, plan on getting the rest of the books and reading them.


Indeed, its new Halo: Glasslands. It'll be released in October 25th, 2011.

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Rise of the Planet of the Apes is actually the prequel to Halo 4. We will be fighting the monkeys. 343i thought it would be a natural transition from fighting Brutes.

  • 08.08.2011 6:18 AM PDT


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Posted by: raganok99


What? In reality, Halo: Reach was actual failed experiment. Have you even read my post at all?

See my post above, bub. [/quote]

Are you an idiot? Reach was a success in about a billion ways, and is bungies ideal halo (as stated in the vidoc)... so shut it[/quote]

Ummm... Calling me idiot, doesn't going to help your argument, it makes worse for you.

And, yes, I have seem vidoc. The fact is that Bungie is blind in their own ways and it's obvious they would lie because its classic business movie- admitting that they love their own products to generate more profit.

And a billion ways? Oh wow, wrong. WRONG!

Fact is that Reach is FLAWED game. Every video games is ALWAYS flawed. Remember that.

And I already explained Covies... THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY ARE DISSIPATED! DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT dissipated means?! It means it's wiped out! Destroyed! Burned out! scattered!

Brutes and Elites are at war, they're busy. Grunts, Drones, hunters, etc are at home or war with those elites or brutes.

And UNSC isn't going to be there either! Know why? BECAUSE IT IS LABELED AS UNKNOWN PLANET. Go look up on dictionary of "unknown" and you'll know why.


You don't have the ability to "think out of the box", do you? I'll just say this: You're automatically ASSUMING the entire game, and frankly, the entire new trilogy, takes place in this one "UNKNOWN PLANET" environment. All one has to do to see how mind-numbingly simplistic this concept is, especially within the Halo'verse, is to view the past 3 games within the trilogy. Halo: Reach and Halo 3:ODST, would be obvious exclusions. Halo Wars had multiple environments, though one would expect this in an RTS.

Please, for the love of god, stop paroting cliche generic one-liners of the current "status" of the Halo'verse to support your redundant and two-dimensional claims of where the next trilogy is going.


Ummm, Grey proved that there will be no Covies and UNSC at Halo 4. Read his posts again.

It's time to accept that Covenant are done for, and we will meet those Forerunners and fight new enemies (Precursors, etc).

You want a proof? Ask Grey.


I have. All the proof I've ever seen is a line saying "no purple." which proves nothing as I, and quite a lot of people, have never seen the quote in context. And even some who have have told me that the quote refers to the no purple in the trailer.

And a very well worded, alternate reason a page or two ago seems to detail a perfectly acceptable explanation for that quote.

Now grey does say we'd have had to see it live. That makes no sense, since to see it live would require a camera live feed which could mean recordings. I don't know, it just seems to be a pretty convenient reason for why people who want to see the quote themselves can't.

So I hope you can understand the skepticism of those who have never personally seen any proof themselves, real proof from 343i.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: ROBERTO jh


What? In reality, Halo: Reach was actual failed experiment. Have you even read my post at all?

See my post above, bub. [/quote]

Are you an idiot? Reach was a success in about a billion ways, and is bungies ideal halo (as stated in the vidoc)... so shut it[/quote]

Ummm... Calling me idiot, doesn't going to help your argument, it makes worse for you.

And, yes, I have seem vidoc. The fact is that Bungie is blind in their own ways and it's obvious they would lie because its classic business movie- admitting that they love their own products to generate more profit.

And a billion ways? Oh wow, wrong. WRONG!

Fact is that Reach is FLAWED game. Every video games is ALWAYS flawed. Remember that.

And I already explained Covies... THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY ARE DISSIPATED! DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT dissipated means?! It means it's wiped out! Destroyed! Burned out! scattered!

Brutes and Elites are at war, they're busy. Grunts, Drones, hunters, etc are at home or war with those elites or brutes.

And UNSC isn't going to be there either! Know why? BECAUSE IT IS LABELED AS UNKNOWN PLANET. Go look up on dictionary of "unknown" and you'll know why. [/quote]

You don't have the ability to "think out of the box", do you? I'll just say this: You're automatically ASSUMING the entire game, and frankly, the entire new trilogy, takes place in this one "UNKNOWN PLANET" environment. All one has to do to see how mind-numbingly simplistic this concept is, especially within the Halo'verse, is to view the past 3 games within the trilogy. Halo: Reach and Halo 3:ODST, would be obvious exclusions. Halo Wars had multiple environments, though one would expect this in an RTS.

Please, for the love of god, stop paroting cliche generic one-liners of the current "status" of the Halo'verse to support your redundant and two-dimensional claims of where the next trilogy is going. [/quote]

Ummm, Grey proved that there will be no Covies and UNSC at Halo 4. Read his posts again.

It's time to accept that Covenant are done for, and we will meet those Forerunners and fight new enemies (Precursors, etc).

You want a proof? Ask Grey. [/quote]

I have. All the proof I've ever seen is a line saying "no purple." which proves nothing as I, and quite a lot of people, have never seen the quote in context. And even some who have have told me that the quote refers to the no purple in the trailer.

And a very well worded, alternate reason a page or two ago seems to detail a perfectly acceptable explanation for that quote.

Now grey does say we'd have had to see it live. That makes no sense, since to see it live would require a camera live feed which could mean recordings. I don't know, it just seems to be a pretty convenient reason for why people who want to see the quote themselves can't.

So I hope you can understand the skepticism of those who have never personally seen any proof themselves, real proof from 343i.


Um you clearly don't know what you are talking about Rob.


Every time frankie is asked about Halo 4 "no purple" keeps coming up. Do you even understand how stupid your post is?

"no purple in reference to the trailer", yea if my dog could see in color he could easily tell me that it didn't have purple in it. So he is obviously talking about the game.

you aren't going to see "the quote in context" because

1. for the seventh time i have told you this it was Live during E3. in which the "context" was halo 4.

2. You aren't going to find that stream clip other than a commercial with somebody saying "no purple" with frankie in the other room.


So again Rob if you didn't see it live you didn't see it. there are millions of people that heard it and several people here that saw it live. just because you didn't see it doesn't mean a thing.


now i know how anton feels about you. Always bringing up the exact same thing despite going over it several times, i think i even googled it for you last time but then again you have a current trend of ignore stuff that disproves you.

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Posted by: grey101
First off most of you are clearly not getting the point.

Indeed. I do not see the point in 343 Industries just chopping off entire parts of the Universe. Are they that unimaginative and lazy?

Posted by: grey101
We have an entire timeline of "MC was never found" chief hasn't been found because the UNSC clealry couldn't find him.

[Citation Needed]

Posted by: grey101
That being said the Chances of the UNSC randomly finding that planet and coming to save the day is so low we will just say "0".

Yes, they are. However the chances of the Master Chief finding his way back to the UNSC are not, given that he is in proximity to Forerunner technology that could have extensive star charts.

Posted by: grey101
There is also the fact that, iunno the UNSC is trying to repair itself after a 27-28 year war that only has roughly 2 billion humans left. So they are going to need every ship available to help with reconstruction and for defense.
So sending ships out looking for a single spartan is a gross misapplication.


Now the covenant are not going to be in because they have no place in this along with the fact that every race is busy trying to deal with 3,000 years+ of wasting their time.

Or the UNSC and certain Covenant races, most likely the Sangheili for instance, could pool their resources and capabilities in order to recover much faster? The way I see it is that the UNSC is in dire need of short term support, whilst the Covenant are in need of more long term support. Combining their efforts and giving each other what the other does not have would work. There are ways for things to happen. You are for some reason assuming that the story remains unchanging in the intervening time between Halo 3 and 4.

Posted by: grey101
Not to mention that if even one race appeared then the new players wouldn't get the backstory and would be forced to play the old trilogy.

Good. Why should this new trilogy be watered down because people are too lazy to look up something on Halopedia, if they cannot for some reason get a hold of the other materials? Why should forcing people to be more proactive be a bad thing? If they want to know the backstory, then they will find it out for themselves. If they don't, then I do not see why we should waste time on them.

Again, you will have had to have played the last 3 games in order to understand what the Flood, Forerunner, Halo etc are. I do not see why people who jump into the series at 4 rather than 1 should be catered to.

Posted by: grey101
So until somebody makes a viable point/reason for why and how they should be in you are just promoting bad storytelling.

The reasoning given will depend on the person and what Halo means to them. Do not just automatically assume that your definition of Halo is any greater than theirs.

  • 08.08.2011 8:09 AM PDT

Hasn't in been stated or maybe leaked that John will get all his weapons and vehicles from stranded marines on the planet? and they are part of the UNSC?

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Posted by: grey101
First off most of you are clearly not getting the point.

Indeed. I do not see the point in 343 Industries just chopping off entire parts of the Universe. Are they that unimaginative and lazy?

Posted by: grey101
We have an entire timeline of "MC was never found" chief hasn't been found because the UNSC clealry couldn't find him.

[Citation Needed]

Posted by: grey101
That being said the Chances of the UNSC randomly finding that planet and coming to save the day is so low we will just say "0".

Yes, they are. However the chances of the Master Chief finding his way back to the UNSC are not, given that he is in proximity to Forerunner technology that could have extensive star charts.

Posted by: grey101
There is also the fact that, iunno the UNSC is trying to repair itself after a 27-28 year war that only has roughly 2 billion humans left. So they are going to need every ship available to help with reconstruction and for defense.
So sending ships out looking for a single spartan is a gross misapplication.


Now the covenant are not going to be in because they have no place in this along with the fact that every race is busy trying to deal with 3,000 years+ of wasting their time.

Or the UNSC and certain Covenant races, most likely the Sangheili for instance, could pool their resources and capabilities in order to recover much faster? The way I see it is that the UNSC is in dire need of short term support, whilst the Covenant are in need of more long term support. Combining their efforts and giving each other what the other does not have would work. There are ways for things to happen. You are for some reason assuming that the story remains unchanging in the intervening time between Halo 3 and 4.

Posted by: grey101
Not to mention that if even one race appeared then the new players wouldn't get the backstory and would be forced to play the old trilogy.

Good. Why should this new trilogy be watered down because people are too lazy to look up something on Halopedia, if they cannot for some reason get a hold of the other materials? Why should forcing people to be more proactive be a bad thing? If they want to know the backstory, then they will find it out for themselves. If they don't, then I do not see why we should waste time on them.

Again, you will have had to have played the last 3 games in order to understand what the Flood, Forerunner, Halo etc are. I do not see why people who jump into the series at 4 rather than 1 should be catered to.

Posted by: grey101
So until somebody makes a viable point/reason for why and how they should be in you are just promoting bad storytelling.

The reasoning given will depend on the person and what Halo means to them. Do not just automatically assume that your definition of Halo is any greater than theirs.



1. The amount of time humanity has spent on earth totaled would be only a few seconds. That is the same for the covenant in regards to the halo universe. While it was a big deal you guys are making it seem like halo would be trash without the covenant, which is a gross exaggeration.


2. Um did you even look at the first post? or are you one of those people that just jump into a topic without reading the OP and a few pages?


3. Read the OP. he still isn't found by 2589 ("official date") or by 2610 with the marketing date. So unless 343 is just going to completely re-write everything he still isn't found by 2589. Unless the games are going to be taking place decades apart which i don't see happening.


4.um it would be watered down if the covenant were in the game since they are just a pointless addition to comfort the casual fans that no nothing of the lore. How about we make a new story that can tell the story from the forerunner aspect in which majority of the people know nothing about.

Um not at all, seeing how i am pretty sure the flood are going to be in and that we are going to find out their origins. Not to mention the current games offer nothing on the forerunners other than

"they made the rings and died" which most people still don't know along with the fact they aren't dead.




5. Well i can tell you that Halo isn't about the covenant, though they are involved they aren't the meaning or pillars of the franchise.


More like flood,forerunners,precursors, humanity. That is what halo is about.

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1. I find it extremely unlikely that the Master Chief, of whom Halo 4 would revolve around, would have no contact with his associating faction at all. I get that he may be on a 'voyage with destiny', but no UNSC contact at all would be absurd and unlikely due to simple circumstances.

2. I also find it hard to believe there will be no Covenant at all. Is 'no purple' really your only statement you are going by? Couldn't that simply mean that there is not a Covenant setting like there has been in the past? (ex. Truth and Reconciliation, High Charity)

3. Things like the Believe trailer and Encyclopedia are on the lowest levels of recognized canon. They could be overridden very easily.

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Posted by: gtfan92
1. I find it extremely unlikely that the Master Chief, of whom Halo 4 would revolve around, would have no contact with his associating faction at all. I get that he may be on a 'voyage with destiny', but no UNSC contact at all would be absurd and unlikely due to simple circumstances.

2. I also find it hard to believe there will be no Covenant at all. Is 'no purple' really your only statement you are going by? Couldn't that simply mean that there is not a Covenant setting like there has been in the past? (ex. Truth and Reconciliation, High Charity)

3. Things like the Believe trailer and Encyclopedia are on the lowest levels of recognized canon. They could be overridden very easily.


1. what is "absurd" about it along with the "simple circumstance"?


2. Are you people even reading the OP? "you won't have to play the last trilogy to get this on" even though i am sure that yo truly get the series you are going to have to play all of the games. Due to the sheer content and marketing aspect of this i doubt that statement is 100 percent true.

3. Whos canon bungies? 343 has stated several times that from now on everything will tie together, so there are not longer "forms of canon". Yes some things will be more recognized than others due to the form they are in but that won't diminish their role in canon.


Such as the visual guide stating that elite power armor does make them stronger. which i believe was also stated in the encyclopedia (i think).

So we now know that elites are stronger in power armor, is that to be taken lightly due to it being in a visual guide? no, is it good marketing to throw in little bits like that over various mediums to give more reasons to buy them? yes.

Majority of you do not understand the marketing aspects of that along with the fact 343 is involved in the marketing process.


  • 08.08.2011 8:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: gtfan92
1. I find it extremely unlikely that the Master Chief, of whom Halo 4 would revolve around, would have no contact with his associating faction at all. I get that he may be on a 'voyage with destiny', but no UNSC contact at all would be absurd and unlikely due to simple circumstances.

2. I also find it hard to believe there will be no Covenant at all. Is 'no purple' really your only statement you are going by? Couldn't that simply mean that there is not a Covenant setting like there has been in the past? (ex. Truth and Reconciliation, High Charity)

3. Things like the Believe trailer and Encyclopedia are on the lowest levels of recognized canon. They could be overridden very easily.


1. what is "absurd" about it along with the "simple circumstance"?


2. Are you people even reading the OP? "you won't have to play the last trilogy to get this on" even though i am sure that yo truly get the series you are going to have to play all of the games. Due to the sheer content and marketing aspect of this i doubt that statement is 100 percent true.

3. Whos canon bungies? 343 has stated several times that from now on everything will tie together, so there are not longer "forms of canon". Yes some things will be more recognized than others due to the form they are in but that won't diminish their role in canon.


Such as the visual guide stating that elite power armor does make them stronger. which i believe was also stated in the encyclopedia (i think).

So we now know that elites are stronger in power armor, is that to be taken lightly due to it being in a visual guide? no, is it good marketing to throw in little bits like that over various mediums to give more reasons to buy them? yes.

Majority of you do not understand the marketing aspects of that along with the fact 343 is involved in the marketing process.


1. You don't think it would be absurd for the main character in a franchise to spend an entire game without contact with the faction he is associated with? It would make for a weird story. Normal circumstances in long story telling would suggest that we would see the UNSC again.

2. "you won't have to play the last trilogy to get this on"
You could have easily said that in modified form about Halo 2. Someone that started on Halo 2 could have easily picked up the story from Halo: CE just on dialogue and context throughout the game.

3. Halo's canon is literally all over the place. 343i is going to have to override some things if they want the story to fit in with something else mentioned in the series.

  • 08.08.2011 9:00 AM PDT

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I don't expect to see UNSC/Covenenat interaction as we've been accustomed to, but you won't see me showing any hint of surprise if there are appearances or at least references.

On the whole, though, I feel like OP is reaching too much at this early point in time. Grey, you are seeing a few shapes in the wispy fog and smoke, but you're trying to describe the whole of the obscured object. You might be right, sure, but you haven't got anything more than circumstantial evidence.

We call that a Casey Anthony 'round these parts :p

  • 08.08.2011 9:01 AM PDT

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The, "no purple," could be referring to the covenant as a whole, not their species. It could also apply only to Halo 4, not 5 and 6. I haven't heard the quote, but going off of what's been said, this is my opinion.

  • 08.08.2011 9:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: gtfan92

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: gtfan92
1. I find it extremely unlikely that the Master Chief, of whom Halo 4 would revolve around, would have no contact with his associating faction at all. I get that he may be on a 'voyage with destiny', but no UNSC contact at all would be absurd and unlikely due to simple circumstances.

2. I also find it hard to believe there will be no Covenant at all. Is 'no purple' really your only statement you are going by? Couldn't that simply mean that there is not a Covenant setting like there has been in the past? (ex. Truth and Reconciliation, High Charity)

3. Things like the Believe trailer and Encyclopedia are on the lowest levels of recognized canon. They could be overridden very easily.


1. what is "absurd" about it along with the "simple circumstance"?


2. Are you people even reading the OP? "you won't have to play the last trilogy to get this on" even though i am sure that yo truly get the series you are going to have to play all of the games. Due to the sheer content and marketing aspect of this i doubt that statement is 100 percent true.

3. Whos canon bungies? 343 has stated several times that from now on everything will tie together, so there are not longer "forms of canon". Yes some things will be more recognized than others due to the form they are in but that won't diminish their role in canon.


Such as the visual guide stating that elite power armor does make them stronger. which i believe was also stated in the encyclopedia (i think).

So we now know that elites are stronger in power armor, is that to be taken lightly due to it being in a visual guide? no, is it good marketing to throw in little bits like that over various mediums to give more reasons to buy them? yes.

Majority of you do not understand the marketing aspects of that along with the fact 343 is involved in the marketing process.


1. You don't think it would be absurd for the main character in a franchise to spend an entire game without contact with the faction he is associated with? It would make for a weird story. Normal circumstances in long story telling would suggest that we would see the UNSC again.

2. "you won't have to play the last trilogy to get this on"
You could have easily said that in modified form about Halo 2. Someone that started on Halo 2 could have easily picked up the story from Halo: CE just on dialogue and context throughout the game.

3. Halo's canon is literally all over the place. 343i is going to have to override some things if they want the story to fit in with something else mentioned in the series.



1. um no seeing how the UNSC presence doesn't affect anything. Majority of the time in halo 2 you were alone, or you had marines that got killed. them being there or not being there didn't change anything. It is completely subjective when you think that UNSC not being in the game will have a major impact.

the only person that was always with chief was cortan, and funny how halo 3 felt completely off when she was gone despite being surrounded by marines.

cortana presence> UNSC presence.

2. Honestly halo 2 was in a sense the start of the story in terms of story telling.

Halo CE you just wake up,grab cortana and fall to the ring world (which i bet halo 4 is going to be like) and fight on that for a week.


In halo 2 you actually got to be around the UNSC forces fighting the covenant and take the full war into context. So in a sense Halo 2 started the full story vibe. And you didn't have to play Halo CE to get halo 2 either since it was summarized.

do you know how many people play the halo games but don't read the books that explain everything? i can tell you it's over 9,000.

3. It really isn't which is another gross exaggeration. Reach is the first and only bump.


Posted by: prometheus25
I don't expect to see UNSC/Covenenat interaction as we've been accustomed to, but you won't see me showing any hint of surprise if there are appearances or at least references.

On the whole, though, I feel like OP is reaching too much at this early point in time. Grey, you are seeing a few shapes in the wispy fog and smoke, but you're trying to describe the whole of the obscured object. You might be right, sure, but you haven't got anything more than circumstantial evidence.

We call that a Casey Anthony 'round these parts :p



Ofcourse it is no doubt that the factions will be brought up but i doubt a physical appearance.


And i am only going off what we have now, If we see Marines and covenant at PAX than so be it.

[Edited on 08.08.2011 9:12 AM PDT]

  • 08.08.2011 9:10 AM PDT

We’re flawed because we want so much more. We’re ruined because we get these things and wish for what we had.

I`m looking forward to the new trilogy even more so than before now.

  • 08.08.2011 9:15 AM PDT

Im kinda glad and sad. I can understand that there is no novenant because it got broken up in 3 and that the Elites are ok with the humans.

  • 08.08.2011 9:16 AM PDT

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Wow. Just wow. Grey101 is single handedly attempting, (and failing, to write the story arc for the new trilogy. Im not even going to argue his absurdly ridiculous points because a deaf, dumb, drunken 5 year old wouldnt take any of his points seriously. He seems to be projecting his deepest desires for the new trilogy into onto all of us and is intent on overriding whatever 343 has planned for the new story. If youre trolling, by all means ignore me and continue because I find it to be hilarious. But if not, you leave me no choice but to feel so sad for you, child.

[Edited on 08.08.2011 9:17 AM PDT]

  • 08.08.2011 9:16 AM PDT