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Subject: The UNSC nor covenant will be in new trilogy

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"you dont need to play the other games"

Seriously... how many times the gaming industry will say this?
Of course! you dont need to play the other, in this case, Halo games, because making a game where you NEED to play the previous titles to understand the soryline, is a marketing fail.
Every dev/game studio of the world will tell you this.

For example, you dont need to play Mass Effect 1 or 2, to see that a ancient race of robots tries to kill every life in the universe.

You dont need to play Halo 1, to see that some crazy old aliens in Halo 2 sending their own troops to a giant suicide mission.
And you dont need to play Halo 2 to see that Halo 3 is just, in terms of story, another "we are the will of the GODS! (yea, sure, Mr. Crazy Prophet) and will eradicate all of the, now comes the big surprise, HUMAAAAAANS" story. Woooow, that's why most people I know, who never played Halo games before, say that Halo 3 is just boring.

Which brings me to the funniest cutscene in Halo 3. If you dont know what's going on in Halo or never played a Halo game before, you just have to watch the video right after the first mission, lol. The cutscene tells ALL the stories of Halo 1 and 2. The fight of some aliens against the humans. Done. Bungie intentionally did that, even though the Prophet's talking is boring, uncreative and totally lame. It was needed to say some things about the actual story for newcomers/people who never played Halo before.
Sure, the fans and people who played all other games know detailed and much more interesting things about backgrounds and reasons in the world of Halo etc. (which counts for every game in every genre, btw), but ACTUALLY, if you were a totally knewbie to Halo, it would be just another boring aliens versus humans story. And no one can deny that. And for this part, I can understand my friends saying this about Halo.



BTW, I love Halo since Halo 1. Just my two cent of the "you dont need to blah blah" stuff.



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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And even still, them finding the Legendary Planet is some that would seriously seem rather flawed.

Why do they have to be the ones doing the finding? Is Chief, for some reason, forbidden to make his way back or something? Why would that be impossible, or unreasonable?

You are also giving off strong vibes of bias here in ignoring viable scenarios, whether you know that you are doing it or not.

Posted by: raganok99
Do I have to explain that It wouldn't make sense for "Covenant" and UNSC being appearing at Halo 4? I can start with explaining several reasons if you want to.

-Covenant is completely destroyed. DESTROYED. (Kids, let me google for you so you can understand what "destroyed" means. After the schism occurred in sometime after Halo 2 to 3, Covenant was already gone. Also, Elites and Brutes are busy with their own mini wars, also ONI are keeping Elites disorganized or weakened by encouraging them to fight more against brutes.(Halo: Glasslands, podcast information) Also The Return in Halo: Evolutions confirmed it.

And, UNSC is unlikely to be there because after the war, they suffered enormous navy losses, military forces losses and civilian losses. It'll take while for them to recover. Also whoever brought up that all of human colonies are destroyed is obvious idiot. There is about half of dozen or more colonies left after the war...

If - before Cryptum had came out - I had said that Humanity maybe had an interstellar empire that was just as advanced as the Forerunners, which was also destroyed by the Forerunners (Who were also very xenophobic themselves), I would probably have been intellectually lynched. The same principle applies here. You have got no idea what the authors have planned and if it is as crazy and unanticipated as Cryptum's plot.

Considering that half of the solutions to your list of problems that have been mentioned in this thread are not even as farfetched as Cryptum's plot, I would think that you are not really putting any thought into how the story could truly connect. You appear to be attempting to reverse-engineer a situation so as to make these factions absolutely impossible to return. So please, give it a rest with the verbatim quoting of the post Halo 3 universe.

Posted by: raganok99
Halo: Encyclopedia, page number: 106 as Lt. Shah said that no knows if there is Master Chief's grave, it implies that nobody knew where MC is even in 2573. I'll leave to others to find other new pages number.

Finally, a source emerges. I get my hopes up, until I see that it is just marketing material. Again. Specifically the same old Halo 3 Marketing material that is non-integral to the story line and 4 years old, mandated to third party developers during a time when the post Halo 3 story was still in flux.

Try again.

Posted by: raganok99
Grey, never mind Neutrino. He's new lad to the Halo universe. Look at his profile, he made his account here in four months ago...

I don't think he even have played Halo games so far.

Ad Hominem? We sure are getting desperate aren't we. What possible logical connection exists between the age of a persons account on Bungie.net and the validity of an argument that concerns whether or not the Covenant races/UNSC will be in the next trilogy? Explain that please.

And as for your claim about me having not played the original games, how stupid. How bloody stupid. The implication being that I have read the extended media, but have not played the games? What? I tell you what, even if I had not played the games, why don't you leave that problem to me and you just deal with the arguments that I put forward, okay? After all, it should not be too difficult to do so if your unsubstantiated claim is true. But no, your only approach to rebutting is to come up with a half assed, immature argument like that.

You are obviously incapable of proper debate. I will not read anymore of your posts from this point on.

This footnote to my post here is not directed at anyone in particular:

Let's look at this Halo 3 Marketing Material shall we?

It comes from the advertisement campaign called Believe that was used to build hype for Halo 3. Marketing material.

Strike One.

It was developed by a third party developer called New Deal Studios, not Bungie or anyone else affiliated with the story.

Strike Two.

According to the trivia section in that article, New Deal Studios were not even aware of the plot of Halo 3, NEVERMIND the rest of the expanded universe or the post Halo 3 universe!

Strike Three.

It also says that there are instances in Believe that are in contradiction to the events that transpired in the game, Halo 3. (Probably because the guys who made it didn't even know its plot. Still, a very good advert campaign though but that is besides the point) We cannot even trust this thing to tell us what happens in the very game that it was advertising, so why the hell trust it for something else?

Strike Four.

And this is your best evidence?

"B-B-But the Encyclopaedia says so!"

The Encyclopaedia also contains elements from ilovebees, but yet I don't see anyone purporting that Nicole-458 is canon. If you want to take all of this Believe stuff as canon then there is no principle that says that you must not take ilovebees in its entirety as well. I certainly hope that you do not think that there were an extra few hundred Spartan-IIs running around given that Nicole's tag is up in the 400's. As such all I see is a double standard; bias.

So I do not see Believe as any different given that it contradicts Halo 3 in areas. I am also loathe to trust a book that does that with ilovebees, and which also cannot differentiate between an Assault Carrier model and the Truth and Reconciliation (A CCS-Cruiser), or the multiple other obvious errors that this Encyclopaedia contains.

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  • 08.09.2011 1:53 PM PDT

Im Canadian Eh!

So it appears the 343 is forgetting everything that made Halo what it was. They are just taking a new story and slapping the name "Halo" on it. The only plausible thing I can think of is 343 wanted a cash cow boost. Make a story and call it Halo 4.

What I am hearing right now. Halo 4 will be one BIG mistake.

  • 08.09.2011 2:02 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

If - before Cryptum had came out - I had said that Humanity maybe had an interstellar empire that was just as advanced as the Forerunners, which was also destroyed by the Forerunners (Who were also very xenophobic themselves), I would probably have been intellectually lynched. The same principle applies here. You have got no idea what the authors have planned and if it is as crazy and unanticipated as Cryptum's plot.

No really. To make such a claim you would need to have some proof or evidence. Pre-Cryptum, there was none. So you would be intellectually lynched for making a bold claim with no support behind it.

However, we do have a basic understanding of this new trilogy. Chief is to be used as an example of Mendicant Bias' atonement for his betrayal against the Forerunners. In what way we'll find out.

And you can bemoan the Encyclopedia all you want, but it is canon. 343 is the final authority and they have deemed it fit. I don't like every aspect of it either but being childish about it doesn't make mine or your points any better.

  • 08.09.2011 2:03 PM PDT

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I don't see any reason for the elites and their allies not to show up at least at the end of the trilogy. Perhaps not in Halo 4 even. But the Sanghelli had fairly advanced technology and would most likely find something like the Legendary Planet/Portal at some point.

  • 08.09.2011 2:05 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: ArtooFeva
I don't see any reason for the elites and their allies not to show up at least at the end of the trilogy. Perhaps not in Halo 4 even. But the Sanghelli had fairly advanced technology and would most likely find something like the Legendary Planet/Portal at some point.

I'm not so sure. Their understanding of Forerunner technology without the aid of the Prophets puts them at a very big disadvantage. Even if they stumble across it, who's to say that the "portal" we see in the trailer will allow them passage?

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
No really. To make such a claim you would need to have some proof or evidence. Pre-Cryptum, there was none. So you would be intellectually lynched for making a bold claim with no support behind it.

If I was asserting that the Covenant will appear and used that as an example then you could have me on the grounds of no evidence. However I was rejecting the namesake of this thread "The UNSC nor covenant will be in the new trilogy", and no more. That analogy stands to say that we don't know what the story has in store, and therefore we really should not state either of the two sides as a fact, especially when evidence is shaky at best. (In my opinion anyway)

However I did word it wrong.

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
However, we do have a basic understanding of this new trilogy. Chief is to be used as an example of Mendicant Bias' atonement for his betrayal against the Forerunners. In what way we'll find out.

On its own that rules out practically all elements of the Halo story, including the Flood - which I presume should play a large role in events. Of course there has got to be more plot lines than that. Which is why I return to my previous statement of we don't know.

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And you can bemoan the Encyclopedia all you want, but it is canon. 343 is the final authority and they have deemed it fit. I don't like every aspect of it either but being childish about it doesn't make mine or your points any better.

My reasoning for doing so is that the Encyclopaedia received very poor editing, very poor. Such obvious mistakes went unnoticed. After finally getting to the page where this date comes from, I had to work it out from the guys length of time in service, the date he entered active service and some other assumptions. Now, do you honestly trust this to be in the Encyclopaedia, knowingly under 343 Industries' intent, when it is so subtle in comparison to other blatant errors that the editor missed? Can you trust that it is actually what 343 Industries wants, in the sense that do they even know that it is there and what it implies? Especially given the circumstances of Believes creation.

Think about it.

And then think about this:

In the new Edition of First Strike, on the fourth and fifth pages of the final Adjunct, called Petra, it is heavily implied that ONI is covering up the identity of the Master Chief with respect to the final events of the war. They have also covered up everything about the Forerunners, the Ark, the Flood and the Halo's. Master Chief is just referred to as a Human soldier who changed the outcome of the war; he is never named.

So the idea that Chief could contact the UNSC, even in the face of these "Believe adverts" has some evidence.

Also, isn't this new threat, described as an ancient evil, supposed to be a threat to "the entire universe". Obviously that is just rhetoric to grab peoples attention (Being a promotional pic), but we can say that it is probably a big threat with a fairly large scale. How is this scale going to be appropriately conveyed when the only effects we see are those on the Master Chief and Cortana?

  • 08.09.2011 3:37 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Neutrino
Also, isn't this new threat, described as an ancient evil, supposed to be a threat to "the entire universe". Obviously that is just rhetoric to grab peoples attention (Being a promotional pic), but we can say that it is probably a big threat with a fairly large scale. How is this scale going to be appropriately conveyed when the only effects we see are those on the Master Chief and Cortana?


It's going to depend on how far ahead Halo 4 begins. If it picks up after Origins, then it would only be a few years post-Halo 3. If this ancient evil is indeed the Timeless One or Prisoner mentioned in Cryptum, which influenced the Forerunner-Flood War, then such a threat probably wouldn't even be phased by a rag tag team of the crippled UNSC fleet and what's left of the Covenant, especially if the Forerunners could not defeat this threat.

  • 08.09.2011 3:44 PM PDT

I don't see how Cortana could be dead if she's obviously in Halo 4, and the fact that AI's do not die, they simply go rampant with knowledge until they are deleted by the creator or some external force.

  • 08.09.2011 6:28 PM PDT

If this is going to be a purely Master Chief story then I will conclude my Halo days with Reach, and rest easy that the MAIN story ended with 3...

  • 08.09.2011 7:41 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
If this is going to be a purely Master Chief story then I will conclude my Halo days with Reach, and rest easy that the MAIN story ended with 3...

Yeah, sure you will.

  • 08.09.2011 7:52 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: ThePredkiller2
If this is going to be a purely Master Chief story then I will conclude my Halo days with Reach, and rest easy that the MAIN story ended with 3...

Yeah, sure you will.


Would you quit jumping into all the threads I am in and randomly attacking me? I find it to be quite annoying, most people would find these childish, petty, power struggles just as such.

  • 08.09.2011 8:01 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

It's completely unrelated to the other thread. But if you stick to this board after Halo 4 launches, you can't have a "Halo 3 was the last entry in the series" attitude. It never works out for anybody.

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Posted by: Neutrino
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And even still, them finding the Legendary Planet is some that would seriously seem rather flawed.

Why do they have to be the ones doing the finding? Is Chief, for some reason, forbidden to make his way back or something? Why would that be impossible, or unreasonable?

You are also giving off strong vibes of bias here in ignoring viable scenarios, whether you know that you are doing it or not.

Posted by: raganok99
Do I have to explain that It wouldn't make sense for "Covenant" and UNSC being appearing at Halo 4? I can start with explaining several reasons if you want to.

-Covenant is completely destroyed. DESTROYED. (Kids, let me google for you so you can understand what "destroyed" means. After the schism occurred in sometime after Halo 2 to 3, Covenant was already gone. Also, Elites and Brutes are busy with their own mini wars, also ONI are keeping Elites disorganized or weakened by encouraging them to fight more against brutes.(Halo: Glasslands, podcast information) Also The Return in Halo: Evolutions confirmed it.

And, UNSC is unlikely to be there because after the war, they suffered enormous navy losses, military forces losses and civilian losses. It'll take while for them to recover. Also whoever brought up that all of human colonies are destroyed is obvious idiot. There is about half of dozen or more colonies left after the war...

If - before Cryptum had came out - I had said that Humanity maybe had an interstellar empire that was just as advanced as the Forerunners, which was also destroyed by the Forerunners (Who were also very xenophobic themselves), I would probably have been intellectually lynched. The same principle applies here. You have got no idea what the authors have planned and if it is as crazy and unanticipated as Cryptum's plot.

Considering that half of the solutions to your list of problems that have been mentioned in this thread are not even as farfetched as Cryptum's plot, I would think that you are not really putting any thought into how the story could truly connect. You appear to be attempting to reverse-engineer a situation so as to make these factions absolutely impossible to return. So please, give it a rest with the verbatim quoting of the post Halo 3 universe.

Posted by: raganok99
Halo: Encyclopedia, page number: 106 as Lt. Shah said that no knows if there is Master Chief's grave, it implies that nobody knew where MC is even in 2573. I'll leave to others to find other new pages number.

Finally, a source emerges. I get my hopes up, until I see that it is just marketing material. Again. Specifically the same old Halo 3 Marketing material that is non-integral to the story line and 4 years old, mandated to third party developers during a time when the post Halo 3 story was still in flux.

Try again.

Posted by: raganok99
Grey, never mind Neutrino. He's new lad to the Halo universe. Look at his profile, he made his account here in four months ago...

I don't think he even have played Halo games so far.

Ad Hominem? We sure are getting desperate aren't we. What possible logical connection exists between the age of a persons account on Bungie.net and the validity of an argument that concerns whether or not the Covenant races/UNSC will be in the next trilogy? Explain that please.

And as for your claim about me having not played the original games, how stupid. How bloody stupid. The implication being that I have read the extended media, but have not played the games? What? I tell you what, even if I had not played the games, why don't you leave that problem to me and you just deal with the arguments that I put forward, okay? After all, it should not be too difficult to do so if your unsubstantiated claim is true. But no, your only approach to rebutting is to come up with a half assed, immature argument like that.

You are obviously incapable of proper debate. I will not read anymore of your posts from this point on.

This footnote to my post here is not directed at anyone in particular:

Let's look at this Halo 3 Marketing Material shall we?

It comes from the advertisement campaign called Believe that was used to build hype for Halo 3. Marketing material.

Strike One.

It was developed by a third party developer called New Deal Studios, not Bungie or anyone else affiliated with the story.

Strike Two.

According to the trivia section in that article, New Deal Studios were not even aware of the plot of Halo 3, NEVERMIND the rest of the expanded universe or the post Halo 3 universe!

Strike Three.

It also says that there are instances in Believe that are in contradiction to the events that transpired in the game, Halo 3. (Probably because the guys who made it didn't even know its plot. Still, a very good advert campaign though but that is besides the point) We cannot even trust this thing to tell us what happens in the very game that it was advertising, so why the hell trust it for something else?

Strike Four.

And this is your best evidence?

"B-B-But the Encyclopaedia says so!"

The Encyclopaedia also contains elements from ilovebees, but yet I don't see anyone purporting that Nicole-458 is canon. If you want to take all of this Believe stuff as canon then there is no principle that says that you must not take ilovebees in its entirety as well. I certainly hope that you do not think that there were an extra few hundred Spartan-IIs running around given that Nicole's tag is up in the 400's. As such all I see is a double standard; bias.

So I do not see Believe as any different given that it contradicts Halo 3 in areas. I am also loathe to trust a book that does that with ilovebees, and which also cannot differentiate between an Assault Carrier model and the Truth and Reconciliation (A CCS-Cruiser), or the multiple other obvious errors that this Encyclopaedia contains.


All right, buddy.

Do you realize that being childish over encyclopedia isn't getting you to anywhere? And in fact, it is canon, whether you like it or not. Also that errors was from first edition... *facepalm* and I own second edition, I can tell is that it is heavily edited and it even removed that quote from "ilovebees" thing. Also second edition is new as well, it has updated info from Halo wars, Halo 3 ODST, all of those novels except Cryptum. So I'm pretty it is reliable source and even it is canon.

Obviously incapable to make proper debate? You jest. That's completely disrespectful to me and perhaps I wouldn't read your post anymore since you're still blind to that Covies and UNSC will "magically" appear at Halo 4 despite loads of evidence was shown that IT WON'T APPEAR AT HALO 4!

Um, I have read Cryptum. I know what it happens, etc. So don't make any assumptions that I never read all novels. Sadly for you, I have.

As with your least experience with Halo, I would say that you don't understand much about Halo. It's funny that newcomers to Halo would want to see more covies and unsc in action in future games despite that there is six halo games for that: (Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Halo Wars and Halo Reach) in a span of ten years of fighting Covies. Now, new Halo trilogy is announced by 343i and Frankie says no purple in Halo 4, it means that no covies, also no UNSC there as well. It's time for us to fight against Precursors/Flood or maybe some rogue Forerunners. Halo 4 is focused on Master Chief's destiny, not humanity's destiny or human covenant war.


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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

I am disappointed with this. I excepted us to be above personal attacks.

The linked gamertag/join date argument is one of the worst I have ever heard. Just because Neutrino lacks a linked gt does not mean he is unfamiliar with the games. Lack of evidence is not evidence. He puts forth what he knows and you counter with what you know. That is all, nothing more, nothing less. He could be just as knowledgable as me or you. If you try and use the fact that he lacks a linked gt as a reason that his argument is flawed, then you have lost the argument.

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Posted by: Xd00999
I am disappointed with this. I excepted us to be above personal attacks.

The linked gamertag/join date argument is one of the worst I have ever heard. Just because Neutrino lacks a linked gt does not mean he is unfamiliar with the games. Lack of evidence is not evidence. He puts forth what he knows and you counter with what you know. That is all, nothing more, nothing less. He could be just as knowledgable as me or you. If you try and use the fact that he lacks a linked gt as a reason that his argument is flawed, then you have lost the argument.


I have removed my part about that gamertag linked.

  • 08.09.2011 9:41 PM PDT

Poll: what would you do if a giant hairy spider started licking your hand.

Having no covy in Halo 4 completely shatters the trilogy for me. Halo isnt just the chief. I dont like how newcomers can play Halo 4 and understand. Then they wont even know who the covenant is! But I see 343's analogy. The series would be too long if it was 6 games. But I'm dissapointed.

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Posted by: P0150NP13R0P4WN
Having no covy in Halo 4 completely shatters the trilogy for me. Halo isnt just the chief. I dont like how newcomers can play Halo 4 and understand. Then they wont even know who the covenant is! But I see 343's analogy. The series would be too long if it was 6 games. But I'm dissapointed.


Lol what?

No. There is a good reason that Covenant won't be there in Halo 4... Have you played Halo 2 and 3? Surely, you should know that it ain't happening as Covenant is completely collapsed as thanks to truth's decision to have brutes instead of Elites and killed them off which Elites decided to start the civil war. After Halo 3, Elites are still killing prophets and brutes as form of revenge. If you don't like it then, don't bother to buying this game.

Also if you want to keep killing Covenant, there's six Halo games to play: Halo Wars, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST and Reach.

[Edited on 08.09.2011 10:27 PM PDT]

  • 08.09.2011 10:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: P0150NP13R0P4WN
Having no covy in Halo 4 completely shatters the trilogy for me. Halo isnt just the chief. I dont like how newcomers can play Halo 4 and understand. Then they wont even know who the covenant is! But I see 343's analogy. The series would be too long if it was 6 games. But I'm dissapointed.


Lol what?

No. There is a good reason that Covenant won't be there in Halo 4... Have you played Halo 2 and 3? Surely, you should know that it ain't happening as Covenant is completely collapsed as thanks to truth's decision to have brutes instead of Elites and killed them off which Elites decided to start the civil war. After Halo 3, Elites are still killing prophets and brutes as form of revenge. If you don't like it then, don't bother to buying this game.

Also if you want to keep killing Covenant, there's six Halo games to play: Halo Wars, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST and Reach.


Okay, the simple flaw in this whole entire thread for the supporter's of greys post's are you are basing your "facts" on a vague phrase "No purple" which could clearly mean less purple texture's as there was a whole heap of them in halo 3, you are also judging your "facts" which are your own opinions on minor canon like the encyclopaedia, which can be easily overridden by 343 just as Bungie did with reach overwriting "The Fall Of Reach" canon

You are also taking certain phrases/quotes/etc entirely out of context.

Grey, you are also giving bias/inconclusive and irrelevant replies to neutrino's logical point's.

Also the covenant is a collective alliance of alien species, as it is now broken due Halo 2 - Halo 3, there is no valid statement except for your own opinions against individual races such as the Sangheili, Unnogy, etc will not be making appearances in the new trilogy, thus all your argument's are bias and generic to sheer idiocy.


[Edited on 08.09.2011 11:32 PM PDT]

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Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: P0150NP13R0P4WN
Having no covy in Halo 4 completely shatters the trilogy for me. Halo isnt just the chief. I dont like how newcomers can play Halo 4 and understand. Then they wont even know who the covenant is! But I see 343's analogy. The series would be too long if it was 6 games. But I'm dissapointed.


Lol what?

No. There is a good reason that Covenant won't be there in Halo 4... Have you played Halo 2 and 3? Surely, you should know that it ain't happening as Covenant is completely collapsed as thanks to truth's decision to have brutes instead of Elites and killed them off which Elites decided to start the civil war. After Halo 3, Elites are still killing prophets and brutes as form of revenge. If you don't like it then, don't bother to buying this game.

Also if you want to keep killing Covenant, there's six Halo games to play: Halo Wars, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST and Reach.


Okay, the simple flaw in this whole entire thread for the supporter's of greys post's are you are basing your "facts" on a vague phrase "No purple" which could clearly mean less purple texture's as there was a whole heap of them in halo 3, you are also judging your "facts" which are your own opinions on minor canon like the encyclopaedia, which can be easily overridden by 343 just as Bungie did with reach overwriting "The Fall Of Reach" canon

You are also taking certain phrases/quotes/etc entirely out of context.

Grey, you are also giving bias/inconclusive and irrelevant replies to neutrino's logical point's.

Also the covenant is a collective alliance of alien species, as it is now broken due Halo 2 - Halo 3, there is no valid statement except for your own opinions against individual races such as the Sangheili, Unnogy, etc will not be making appearances in the new trilogy, thus all your argument's are bias and generic to sheer idiocy.


I don't recall that this legendary planet is unknown? It's likely that most of Covies and UNSC don't know its location.

and Have you seen/heard about Glasslands podcast? They said that ONI are keeping Sangheilis busy with Brutes, etc. So it's pretty obvious that it won't appear at halo 4. Since they said it does have some ties with Halo 4 because Glasslands are set in between Halo 3 and Halo 4.

Stating fact from the encyclopedia is not opinion, it's actual fact because it is canon.

[Edited on 08.09.2011 11:43 PM PDT]

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Posted by: raganok99

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Having no covy in Halo 4 completely shatters the trilogy for me. Halo isnt just the chief. I dont like how newcomers can play Halo 4 and understand. Then they wont even know who the covenant is! But I see 343's analogy. The series would be too long if it was 6 games. But I'm dissapointed.


Lol what?

No. There is a good reason that Covenant won't be there in Halo 4... Have you played Halo 2 and 3? Surely, you should know that it ain't happening as Covenant is completely collapsed as thanks to truth's decision to have brutes instead of Elites and killed them off which Elites decided to start the civil war. After Halo 3, Elites are still killing prophets and brutes as form of revenge. If you don't like it then, don't bother to buying this game.

Also if you want to keep killing Covenant, there's six Halo games to play: Halo Wars, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST and Reach.


Okay, the simple flaw in this whole entire thread for the supporter's of greys post's are you are basing your "facts" on a vague phrase "No purple" which could clearly mean less purple texture's as there was a whole heap of them in halo 3, you are also judging your "facts" which are your own opinions on minor canon like the encyclopaedia, which can be easily overridden by 343 just as Bungie did with reach overwriting "The Fall Of Reach" canon

You are also taking certain phrases/quotes/etc entirely out of context.

Grey, you are also giving bias/inconclusive and irrelevant replies to neutrino's logical point's.

Also the covenant is a collective alliance of alien species, as it is now broken due Halo 2 - Halo 3, there is no valid statement except for your own opinions against individual races such as the Sangheili, Unnogy, etc will not be making appearances in the new trilogy, thus all your argument's are bias and generic to sheer idiocy.


I don't recall that this legendary planet is unknown? It's likely that most of Covies and UNSC don't know its location.

and Have you seen/heard about Glasslands podcast? They said that ONI are keeping Sangheilis busy with Brutes, etc. So it's pretty obvious that it won't appear at halo 4. Since they said it does have some ties with Halo 4 because Glasslands are set in between Halo 3 and Halo 4.


1: Did I say anything about the legendary planet?

2: Yes I did, but it is a mere pod-cast, not the -blam!- book for gods sake, so you can't say that they wont appear because oni are keeping them busy with the brutes, because we do not know the extent they are keeping them distracted.

You are also basing that neither faction will not be included in the new trilogy in any way, there will obviously be references, and your basing your opinion of speculation.

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Posted by: raganok99
Frankie says no purple

Here is your tragic fall. You are taking a statement that has been said, interpreting it, and then applying your interpretation has canonical fact and the only way things could be. "No purple" could easily refer to Covenant environments like High Charity that have played major roles in the Halo franchise. Stop saying your interpretation is fact when in reality you have no proof of such.

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Posted by: gtfan92

Posted by: raganok99
Frankie says no purple

Here is your tragic fall. You are taking a statement that has been said, interpreting it, and then applying your interpretation has canonical fact and the only way things could be. "No purple" could easily refer to Covenant environments like High Charity that have played major roles in the Halo franchise. Stop saying your interpretation is fact when in reality you have no proof of such.


um common sense says we aren't going to be seeing that since we aren't going to be on a covenant ship or planet

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Posted by: gtfan92

Posted by: raganok99
Frankie says no purple

Here is your tragic fall. You are taking a statement that has been said, interpreting it, and then applying your interpretation has canonical fact and the only way things could be. "No purple" could easily refer to Covenant environments like High Charity that have played major roles in the Halo franchise. Stop saying your interpretation is fact when in reality you have no proof of such.


Lol, excuse me for using common sense... nowadays, this universe forum lacks of common sense.

In case, we are not going to see Covenant, that's fact. Refer yourself to Grey's posts with proof.

  • 08.10.2011 6:36 AM PDT