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Subject: The UNSC nor covenant will be in new trilogy

This will be a strange trilogy w/o either the UNSC or any 'Covenant' or species from the former Covenant. I think it would be cool if they could somehow tie the other 6 Halo rings into the story (and I'm sure they will), because they've (except Delta Halo) been left out of the Halo story almost completely. Maybe some teleporters to them or something.

But as for the UNSC not being in the new trilogy completely, Cortana said she would drop a beacon for their location, so I could definitely see them showing up later in the trilogy, but not Halo 4.

  • 07.25.2011 3:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: MisterBraz
This will be a strange trilogy w/o either the UNSC or any 'Covenant' or species from the former Covenant. I think it would be cool if they could somehow tie the other 6 Halo rings into the story (and I'm sure they will), because they've (except Delta Halo) been left out of the Halo story almost completely. Maybe some teleporters to them or something.

But as for the UNSC not being in the new trilogy completely, Cortana said she would drop a beacon for their location, so I could definitely see them showing up later in the trilogy, but not Halo 4.


If they haven't found Chief for about 40 years according to the Encyclopedia, they aren't going to find him.

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But as for the UNSC not being in the new trilogy completely, Cortana said she would drop a beacon for their location, so I could definitely see them showing up later in the trilogy, but not Halo 4.


you clearly didn't read the post then

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: MisterBraz
This will be a strange trilogy w/o either the UNSC or any 'Covenant' or species from the former Covenant. I think it would be cool if they could somehow tie the other 6 Halo rings into the story (and I'm sure they will), because they've (except Delta Halo) been left out of the Halo story almost completely. Maybe some teleporters to them or something.

But as for the UNSC not being in the new trilogy completely, Cortana said she would drop a beacon for their location, so I could definitely see them showing up later in the trilogy, but not Halo 4.


If they haven't found Chief for about 40 years according to the Encyclopedia, they aren't going to find him.


The trilogy could take place over several decades. We don't have a definitive time frame and we can't assume it will all be over in no time at all. Ancient Evils aren't defeated that quickly.

  • 07.25.2011 4:04 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: MisterBraz


But as for the UNSC not being in the new trilogy completely, Cortana said she would drop a beacon for their location, so I could definitely see them showing up later in the trilogy, but not Halo 4.

you clearly didn't read the post then



Nvm scratch what I said, that was confusing. Basically, what I'm pondering is maybe they weren't considering a sequel when they declared all of that (MC being MIA as of 2610), so they're like "oh -blam!-, who are MC's allies gonna be? its gonna be weird with just him" and decide to bring back the UNSC again, which is possible if they encounter a vessal or w/e unable to contact Earth of finding MC, because they die out there. But that would only be possible with all of that encyclopedia/commercial stuff not being officially canon, in which alot of that fan fiction stuff isn't.

[Edited on 07.25.2011 4:30 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2011 4:06 PM PDT


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The Elites, judging by 'The Return', are so dead set on uncovering the Forerunner that I stand by my statement that we'll see them in, at least, Halo 6.


They won't appear in the games. They're stories are for the books, Chief gets the games.
We'll see. I think they will appear; even if it's a small fleet.

Why?
I explained above. Not only that, but everything about the Elites is so tied to the Forerunners. They worship them, they're seeking purpose...guidance. The Shipmaster was adamant that he would speak with his 'Gods' in person, in order to find that direction. He was on the trail of a Monitor. Their story is something quite different from that of the 'Chief's, but very connected to the Forerunner, and that will bring them together. I feel that they're journey will embroil them into the events of the trilogy (via an uncovered Forerunner artifact, or something) and there they will find the answers they seek. For the Elites, it will be about closing that chapter, and maybe letting go of the Forerunner by the end of it; opening up a new direction for them.

I don't get why people are so ready to write them off, and feel that 343 fails by implementing them when it does make sense. I feel they'll be there, but I'm not saying that definitively. It's a hunch of mine, and until 343 says they're not going to be seen in the trilogy then I will continue to be open to that possibility.

  • 07.25.2011 4:17 PM PDT

I think the we may see the UNSC in that it is the remains of the Spirit of Fire, we don't know where they are and it is possible they ended up on the planet Chief is no on

  • 07.25.2011 4:22 PM PDT


Posted by: OwnedAce13
I think the we may see the UNSC in that it is the remains of the Spirit of Fire, we don't know where they are and it is possible they ended up on the planet Chief is no on
343 has stated they do not have any plans as of now concerning the whereabouts of the Spirit of Fire.

  • 07.25.2011 4:24 PM PDT

Bacon for all !!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

i havent thought of that,

btw you spelled second wrong in your coup

  • 07.25.2011 4:24 PM PDT

Implying that he wasn't in cryo sleep for years ?

[Edited on 07.25.2011 4:32 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2011 4:31 PM PDT


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Posted by: OwnedAce13
I think the we may see the UNSC in that it is the remains of the Spirit of Fire, we don't know where they are and it is possible they ended up on the planet Chief is no on
343 has stated they do not have any plans as of now concerning the whereabouts of the Spirit of Fire.

They said it's something that they aren't going to leave aswell.

  • 07.25.2011 4:32 PM PDT


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Posted by: Sniffy66

Posted by: OwnedAce13
I think the we may see the UNSC in that it is the remains of the Spirit of Fire, we don't know where they are and it is possible they ended up on the planet Chief is no on
343 has stated they do not have any plans as of now concerning the whereabouts of the Spirit of Fire.

They said it's something that they aren't going to leave aswell.
Well that can tell you it wont be in Halo 4. Doubt Halo 5 and 6. They've probably got the basic story layout already done for the games. Of course there will be changes but I don't believe the SoF will add anything notable to the trilogy.

  • 07.25.2011 4:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: HRBroadcaster

Posted by: Sniffy66

Posted by: OwnedAce13
I think the we may see the UNSC in that it is the remains of the Spirit of Fire, we don't know where they are and it is possible they ended up on the planet Chief is no on
343 has stated they do not have any plans as of now concerning the whereabouts of the Spirit of Fire.

They said it's something that they aren't going to leave aswell.
Well that can tell you it wont be in Halo 4. Doubt Halo 5 and 6. They've probably got the basic story layout already done for the games. Of course there will be changes but I don't believe the SoF will add anything notable to the trilogy.


Perhaps a Halo Wars 2...

  • 07.25.2011 5:02 PM PDT

I wake up to find myself
After all these years
And where all the time has gone
Still seems so unclear

I don't know about the rest of you, but all I see for the end of this trilogy is the Chief flying back home in a Fortress-class Forerunner ship.

"Unknown ship, identify."
"This is Sierra 117. I'm back."

And that's it. Because cliches are fun.

  • 07.25.2011 5:05 PM PDT

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I'd be fine with having a few Covenant species show up in the trilogy. Elites, Brutes, Engineers...anything really. "The Covenant" is finished, but the races that made up that Covenant are sure to make atleast a cameo appearance somewhere in this new trilogy. I can't see the Elites being completely gone from something this huge. Halo is just as much about the Elites as it is the humans.

To be completely honest my fingers are still crossed for a dual campaign ala Halo 2. I REALLY want to see Rtas and the Arbiter hunting down the brutes and things like that. Exploring for the other rings to destroy them, that kind of thing. I think it'd be really interesting and would be a good throw back to the last trilogy to "finish up" what was left after Halo 3.

But, if the "no purple" thing is true I guess that rules out my hopes.

  • 07.25.2011 5:10 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.


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Posted by: MisterBraz
This will be a strange trilogy w/o either the UNSC or any 'Covenant' or species from the former Covenant. I think it would be cool if they could somehow tie the other 6 Halo rings into the story (and I'm sure they will), because they've (except Delta Halo) been left out of the Halo story almost completely. Maybe some teleporters to them or something.

But as for the UNSC not being in the new trilogy completely, Cortana said she would drop a beacon for their location, so I could definitely see them showing up later in the trilogy, but not Halo 4.


If they haven't found Chief for about 40 years according to the Encyclopedia, they aren't going to find him.


Well you also have to remember that the source material stating Chief had yet to be found comes from marketing material. It wouldn't be a big deal for something that low on the canon chain to be over-written.

  • 07.25.2011 5:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: MisterBraz
This will be a strange trilogy w/o either the UNSC or any 'Covenant' or species from the former Covenant. I think it would be cool if they could somehow tie the other 6 Halo rings into the story (and I'm sure they will), because they've (except Delta Halo) been left out of the Halo story almost completely. Maybe some teleporters to them or something.

But as for the UNSC not being in the new trilogy completely, Cortana said she would drop a beacon for their location, so I could definitely see them showing up later in the trilogy, but not Halo 4.


If they haven't found Chief for about 40 years according to the Encyclopedia, they aren't going to find him.


Well you also have to remember that the source material stating Chief had yet to be found comes from marketing material. It wouldn't be a big deal for something that low on the canon chain to be over-written.

The Encyclopedia is low on the canon tier?

  • 07.25.2011 5:13 PM PDT


Posted by: privet caboose

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: MisterBraz
This will be a strange trilogy w/o either the UNSC or any 'Covenant' or species from the former Covenant. I think it would be cool if they could somehow tie the other 6 Halo rings into the story (and I'm sure they will), because they've (except Delta Halo) been left out of the Halo story almost completely. Maybe some teleporters to them or something.

But as for the UNSC not being in the new trilogy completely, Cortana said she would drop a beacon for their location, so I could definitely see them showing up later in the trilogy, but not Halo 4.


If they haven't found Chief for about 40 years according to the Encyclopedia, they aren't going to find him.


Well you also have to remember that the source material stating Chief had yet to be found comes from marketing material. It wouldn't be a big deal for something that low on the canon chain to be over-written.
I remember Frankie or someone at 343 saying that not too long of a time has passed but some time has. Now 40 years during the forerunners time might not of been that big a issue however for humanity a lot can happen in 40 years. Like the near extinction of your entire race.

  • 07.25.2011 5:16 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

I said the source material. I know those numbers were stated in the Encyclopedia, I own it myself. But those numbers come from the Believe ads for Halo 3.

Something as minuscule as that can be retconed with no consequences. It's like the Elites, Brutes, and hunters being retconned from 2552 first encounters to 2525. Nobody made a fuss about that, because it didn't effect the universe that much.

I'm not 100% opposed to Retcons. Only ones that have impact on a large chuck of media. Obviously retconning the Chief being found by UNSC earlier wouldn't really effect Canon considering there's virtually no material after 2553.

  • 07.25.2011 5:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: privet caboose
Obviously retconning the Chief being found by UNSC earlier wouldn't really effect Canon considering there's virtually no material after 2553.


But why do the UNSC need to find Chief? They aren't needed for this new story revolving around Chief. It would probably be for the best he never makes it back home.

  • 07.25.2011 5:20 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.


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Posted by: privet caboose
Obviously retconning the Chief being found by UNSC earlier wouldn't really effect Canon considering there's virtually no material after 2553.


But why do the UNSC need to find Chief? They aren't needed for this new story revolving around Chief. It would probably be for the best he never makes it back home.


Thinking about it, who's to say he never made it back home even with the Believe stuff being canon. Look at the Spirit of Fire. It probably made it back to the UNSC, yet it's still classified as "Lost with all hands" or whatever. Chief would just end up being another ONI-classified spartan.

I agree with you when you say they aren't needed for this new story, but I don't think you should rule it out of the question that he won't make it back home eventually.

  • 07.25.2011 5:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: privet caboose
Obviously retconning the Chief being found by UNSC earlier wouldn't really effect Canon considering there's virtually no material after 2553.


But why do the UNSC need to find Chief? They aren't needed for this new story revolving around Chief. It would probably be for the best he never makes it back home.


Thinking about it, who's to say he never made it back home even with the Believe stuff being canon. Look at the Spirit of Fire. It probably made it back to the UNSC, yet it's still classified as "Lost with all hands" or whatever. Chief would just end up being another ONI-classified spartan.

I agree with you when you say they aren't needed for this new story, but I don't think you should rule it out of the question that he won't make it back home eventually.

I think the story would have a bigger emotional impact if Chief saves everyone but no one knows it, because he was never found. It would be more dramatic, in my opinion. Saves the universe but he is only remembered for what he did in the war.

  • 07.25.2011 5:41 PM PDT
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I honestly don't see how it's going to work, unless humanity meets some other alien race/alliance that has something to do with the Halo rings. There's still a lot of rings out there(1,2,3,5[infected],6,7), proving that there's still potential for a good game. But despite who the new/old antagonists are, the humans are going to have to be in the new trilogy; whether they're the UNSC or not.

I'm not doubtful, just very curious to see what 343 Industries does with this series...

  • 07.25.2011 6:05 PM PDT

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I honestly don't see how it's going to work, unless humanity meets some other alien race/alliance that has something to do with the Halo rings. There's still a lot of rings out there(1,2,3,5[infected],6,7), proving that there's still potential for a good game. But despite who the new/old antagonists are, the humans are going to have to be in the new trilogy; whether they're the UNSC or not.

I'm not doubtful, just very curious to see what 343 Industries does with this series...

Other humans besides Chief aren't really needed.

  • 07.25.2011 6:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: MisterBraz


But as for the UNSC not being in the new trilogy completely, Cortana said she would drop a beacon for their location, so I could definitely see them showing up later in the trilogy, but not Halo 4.

you clearly didn't read the post then



Nvm scratch what I said, that was confusing. Basically, what I'm pondering is maybe they weren't considering a sequel when they declared all of that (MC being MIA as of 2610), so they're like "oh -blam!-, who are MC's allies gonna be? its gonna be weird with just him" and decide to bring back the UNSC again, which is possible if they encounter a vessal or w/e unable to contact Earth of finding MC, because they die out there. But that would only be possible with all of that encyclopedia/commercial stuff not being officially canon, in which alot of that fan fiction stuff isn't.


Encyclopedia and that you claimed "alot of that fan fiction stuff" which you're preferring to the Halo novels, which it is officially CANON.

There will be no Covenant or UNSC at Halo 4 or entire trilogy, period. We will be playing is Forerunners and Precursors, probably Flood. Why it is hard to understand and accept that?

  • 07.25.2011 6:38 PM PDT