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Subject: The UNSC nor covenant will be in new trilogy

Expressing my strong liberal views without shame. Favorite quotes below:

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

- Albert Einstein

Yes, the remark was made by (I believe) either Eric Raab or Kevin Grace in a book signing video featuring Greg Bear and Frankie along with the aforementioned other two. The interview is on Halo Waypoint.

  • 07.26.2011 6:09 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Aw.

I wanted to see some ODST´s hotdropping in the middle of the battlefield and -blam!- -blam!- up.

  • 07.26.2011 6:35 AM PDT

"On the seventh day, god did not rest, but rather he created 64 player multiplayer!"

I'll be curious to find out if this new series will in any way link up with the ending to Ghosts of Onyx.

  • 07.26.2011 10:48 AM PDT

I don't think that the Covenant or UNSC should be the main factions, but in the spirit of cohesion and continuity, both should make some sort of appearance or have a minor role. Or perhaps they can have major roles, yet be more distant actors.

[Edited on 07.26.2011 10:54 AM PDT]

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Posted by: h4x3er
I don't think that the Covenant or UNSC should be the main factions, but in the spirit of cohesion and continuity, both should make some sort of appearance or have a minor role. Or perhaps they can have major roles, yet be more distant actors.


did you even read the thread? like seriously.

  • 07.26.2011 10:56 AM PDT

I believe the pull away from the UNSC and the covenant could also ruin the game. Lets remember now, This game is HALO. In Halo 3, the Ark was damaged and so were the actual halo rings. Therefore, Unless 343 has magically reconstructed the entire array by Halo 4(which would make Halo 3 almost pointless), without the Halos, Is there really Halo?

  • 07.26.2011 11:29 AM PDT

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I'd like to see the UNSC split due to the Insurrection with multiple human powers in the Universe, maybe all trying to acquire the Forerunner tech that Master Chief was abducted by.

  • 07.26.2011 1:04 PM PDT
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I just hope the Flood aren't in the game. Ever since the release of Halo 2 I've despised that alien race.

  • 07.26.2011 1:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: tristram88
I just hope the Flood aren't in the game. Ever since the release of Halo 2 I've despised that alien race.


they will be since the whole story is able them randomly showing up

  • 07.26.2011 1:46 PM PDT
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Chief better have allies. As nice as it is to go solo, it's more fun arranging AI battles.

  • 07.26.2011 2:13 PM PDT

Super Halo Fan & Graphics Designer.

Maybe will see some more Spartans, since there are still a couple Spartans whose whereabouts we do not know of.

  • 07.26.2011 2:28 PM PDT

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In conclusion then the canon can be summarised as follows:

- The games rank first
- Published materials (books, comics, soundtrack liner notes etc.) rank second
- Marketing and PR materials third


:)
So basically, the games don't have to follow jack ****.

And as a side note, you're being extremely closed-minded and selfish. What do you think about when you hear "Halo"? The story. What do [a lot] others and myself think of when we hear "Halo"? The gameplay.
I honestly don't think fighting Flood, and giant robots would make for a good GAME.
The games are about the Covenant and the UNSC's fight (for the most part, and as long as Halo 4 is a sequel to Halo 3. But, since this is apparently a "different and new" story, it may vary, so focusing on something else without scrapping the two would be just fine).
The Forerunners only served as mysterious ancient species whose machines and constructs (not to mention the Flood) greatly influenced the war near the very end. Other than the Sentinels, they had no real impact on gameplay.

I'll happily accept the Forerunners, or your giant space robots in the next Halo game, but to rule out the two things that are the driving force? Unacceptable. Besides, hasn't the Halo games always had multiple-way fights? I thought that made it all the more epic.

Jeez, this thread is filled with canon lovers and ignorant assumptions. But mostly Grey's and DeceptionCobra's egos.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Qbix89 | Master Forum Ninja


In conclusion then the canon can be summarised as follows:

- The games rank first
- Published materials (books, comics, soundtrack liner notes etc.) rank second
- Marketing and PR materials third


:)
So basically, the games don't have to follow jack ****.

And as a side note, you're being extremely closed-minded and selfish. What do you think about when you hear "Halo"? The story. What do [a lot] others and myself think of when we hear "Halo"? The gameplay.
I honestly don't think fighting Flood, and giant robots would make for a good GAME.
The games are about the Covenant and the UNSC's fight (for the most part, and as long as Halo 4 is a sequel to Halo 3. But, since this is apparently a "different and new" story, it may vary, so focusing on something else without scrapping the two would be just fine).
The Forerunners only served as mysterious ancient species whose machines and constructs (not to mention the Flood) greatly influenced the war near the very end. Other than the Sentinels, they had no real impact on gameplay.

I'll happily accept the Forerunners, or your giant space robots in the next Halo game, but to rule out the two things that are the driving force? Unacceptable. Besides, hasn't the Halo games always had multiple-way fights? I thought that made it all the more epic.

Jeez, this thread is filled with canon lovers and ignorant assumptions. But mostly Grey's and DeceptionCobra's egos.



Ah my dear friend i see you are finally un-banned what a joy keep the smack talk up and you'll be on that list again.


1. bugie's canon policy stopped existing after bungie left halo, anybody that has been keeping up has followed that.


2.There is nothing "close minded" or "selfish" about it. Gameplay has nothing to do with lore so stop trying to connect invisible dots.


3.The flood a the central plot to halo, they will be in to some capacity in the next trilogy and you do understand the forerunners are flesh and blood right?


3.The games have had the forerunners in the background you are just Ad hominem and trying to be difficult. yet with no basses for your claim it is pretty easy to get around your opinions.


4. Can you just get over the fact you won't fight the same thing for another ten years? i have never seen somebody whine about change as much as you (and i live with girls). If you don't want to play the new trilogy then don't; you don't can about lore anyway so you can play reach for the rest of your life nobody is forcing you to buy the games.

5. What "Ego" do i have about going and finding information to back up the two statments we have by frankie who is making the nextr trilogy? canon lovers you do understand this is the UNIVERSE FORUM correct? the main place to talk about canon; your gameplay ideas belong in the reach forum so if you keep spamming that here i'll just PM a mod again.


So when you

A) know what the hell you are talking about

B) Start pulling out supports for your opinions (which you won't find) because gameplay does not affect anything.

C) Stop acting like a 4 year old by disliking something because it doesn't fit you wants.

D) Stop trying to "insult" people with petty remarks and stop using circular logic.


Then your words will have merit. until then you are just building a pile of fallacies and running in circles. this isn't the 343 forums; no mods are going to save you if you are told you are wrong, and people here know what they are talking about.


So if i see you bring up gameplay again like i said i'll just start PMing mods because again you are stooping to insults because you can't accept the fact you are wrong and you are posting in the wrong forum.

  • 07.27.2011 5:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Qbix89 | Master Forum Ninja


In conclusion then the canon can be summarised as follows:

- The games rank first
- Published materials (books, comics, soundtrack liner notes etc.) rank second
- Marketing and PR materials third


:)
So basically, the games don't have to follow jack ****.

And as a side note, you're being extremely closed-minded and selfish. What do you think about when you hear "Halo"? The story. What do [a lot] others and myself think of when we hear "Halo"? The gameplay.
I honestly don't think fighting Flood, and giant robots would make for a good GAME.
The games are about the Covenant and the UNSC's fight (for the most part, and as long as Halo 4 is a sequel to Halo 3. But, since this is apparently a "different and new" story, it may vary, so focusing on something else without scrapping the two would be just fine).
The Forerunners only served as mysterious ancient species whose machines and constructs (not to mention the Flood) greatly influenced the war near the very end. Other than the Sentinels, they had no real impact on gameplay.

I'll happily accept the Forerunners, or your giant space robots in the next Halo game, but to rule out the two things that are the driving force? Unacceptable. Besides, hasn't the Halo games always had multiple-way fights? I thought that made it all the more epic.

Jeez, this thread is filled with canon lovers and ignorant assumptions. But mostly Grey's and DeceptionCobra's egos.
What do you expect? The Covenant to get back together? It can't.

It is a well known fact that the Sangheili are hunting down Jiralhanae and San'Shyumm (Spelling?) until they are extinct. Thus, it would mean the Covenant is finished as it wouldn't make sense for the Elites to turn on Humans.

Now. Even if the Covenant, despite all odds, reformed, how would Master Chief go about fighting him? He is in an unknown part of the Milky Way Galaxy being gobbled up by a supposed Shield World. So how would the Covenant even get in there.

Now that I have made it clear the Covenant will never return, you must understand that while the H-C has been the focus over the past decade, it's finished. I'm sure it was your favorite part of the fiction, but It's gone and over with. It's exactly why Bungie finished off the Covenant. They would have never finished them off if they didn't think Halo would grow or be OK without it.

Have you ever read any of the Halo Books? They are quite good, and I'm sure that if you haven't read them you'll see that Halo can survive without the Covenant. You just have to be willing to try new things.

Don't bring other members into this either. This is for discussion of Halo canon, not discussion of how smart people are mean.

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  • 07.27.2011 5:46 AM PDT

I feel at the end it will all come together.

I was massively disappointed that halo 2/3 did not "come together" in the sense that halsey, fred, linda, kelley and will did not fight along side chief to the end of the war, but instead got booted off to onyx because bungie was too scared to add in characters from the books at that point.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Wazooty
I feel at the end it will all come together.

I was massively disappointed that halo 2/3 did not "come together" in the sense that halsey, fred, linda, kelley and will did not fight along side chief to the end of the war, but instead got booted off to onyx because bungie was too scared to add in characters from the books at that point.


That would have been too much for bungie and i can't judge on how that would go for 343.

but you have people like "blueruby" that refuse to read the books "probably can't buy them or use google to get torrents" that wouldn't know who those characters are, their relation to the chief, etc. We know from reach that bungie isn't good at squad story telling which is odd since ODST wasn't bad.


Then there is the gamplay, book wise linda is a god sniper but forbid that she miss one shot or mess up then people would start trash talking.


I saw they are better for the books until they can properly be put into a game.

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Posted by: Wazooty
I feel at the end it will all come together.

I was massively disappointed that halo 2/3 did not "come together" in the sense that halsey, fred, linda, kelley and will did not fight along side chief to the end of the war, but instead got booted off to onyx because bungie was too scared to add in characters from the books at that point.
I do not believe Bungie told Eric Nylund to figure out how to keep your Spartans away from earth. Even if they did, it would defeat the purpose of you being the last Spartan II in Halo.

  • 07.27.2011 6:07 AM PDT


Posted by: Onyx81

Even if they did, it would defeat the purpose of you being the last Spartan II in Halo.


ANd I would've been much happier if the last spartan tag never existed. In Halo CE it worked because at that point chief was believed to be the last spartan...but was it really that important for them to carry on with that?

Even in halo 2 it was understandable: chief, being their leader, attends the awards ceremony while the rest get some R&R (or perhaps just prepare for the coming storm). The covenant attack mid-ceremony and the other spartans, being on the other side of the planet never get to rendevous with chief before they make a spur of the moment slipsppace jump to follow regret.



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Posted by: Wazooty
I feel at the end it will all come together.

I was massively disappointed that halo 2/3 did not "come together" in the sense that halsey, fred, linda, kelley and will did not fight along side chief to the end of the war, but instead got booted off to onyx because bungie was too scared to add in characters from the books at that point.


That would have been too much for bungie and i can't judge on how that would go for 343.

but you have people like "blueruby" that refuse to read the books "probably can't buy them or use google to get torrents" that wouldn't know who those characters are, there relation to the chief, etc. We know from reach that bunige isn't good at squad story telling which is odd since ODST wasn't bad.


Then there is the gamplay, book wise linda is a god sniper but forbid that she miss one shot or mess up then people would start trash talking.


I saw they are better for the books until they can properly be put into a game.
Well if you think about it. You were playing alone for most of the game. Bungie is just really good at making us think we were with a squad, which is due to good storytelling.

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Even if they did, it would defeat the purpose of you being the last Spartan II in Halo.


ANd I would've been much happier if the last spartan tag never existed. In Halo CE it worked because at that point chief was believed to be the last spartan...but was it really that important for them to carry on with that?


They didn't carry on with it did they?


And john thought he was the last spartan due to reach so actually it was accurate for the time.

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If Bungie did all the canon he would be the last Spartan. but I think they kept the tagline because they wanted the player to feel like an Epic Badass that has no one to replace them if they fail.

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  • 07.27.2011 6:16 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101


And john thought he was the last spartan due to reach so actually it was accurate for the time.


That's what I said.

And while they didn't technically say he was the last spartan...the theme song for halo 2s announcement trailer is called "the last spartan".

I certainly like how Chief is made out to be the last spartan at Reaches fall, it makes the whole ordeal a lot more tragic. After that though...hmmm. I am quite attached to nylunds characters and I hate how they have gotten a grand total of zero screen time in any of the main halo games. Thankfully they at least got halsey in there.

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Posted by: grey101


And john thought he was the last spartan due to reach so actually it was accurate for the time.


That's what I said.

And while they didn't technically say he was the last spartan...the theme song for halo 2s announcement trailer is called "the last spartan".

I certainly like how Chief is made out to be the last spartan at Reaches fall, it makes the whole ordeal a lot more tragic. After that though...hmmm. I am quite attached to nylunds characters and I hate how they have gotten a grand total of zero screen time in any of the main halo games. Thankfully they at least got halsey in there.
And even then, it broke canon.

  • 07.27.2011 6:58 AM PDT

The title doesn't make sense.

I think you meant "Neither the UNSC nor Covenant will be in the new trilogy."

  • 07.27.2011 7:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: Wolverfrog
The title doesn't make sense.

I think you meant "Neither the UNSC nor Covenant will be in the new trilogy."


I was waiting for somebody to state that (where are the grammar azi's ?) but we all know that incorrect usage attracts people over the internet hence the title.


And when will you decide to stay in the universe forum?lol

[Edited on 07.27.2011 7:11 AM PDT]

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