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Posted by: grey101
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about because you just got un-banned. and you know i made this thread so i am going to check/post in it right? if you don't want to talk to me the stop posting in this thread or go back to the waypoint forums.


You are probably the biggest hater on this website. <3


Enough. He has been here longer than you have. Hell, I am here longer than you as well. Also, Cobra is number one hater, not Grey.

And let me explain something to your thick skull so you can clearly understand.

There will be no UNSC/Covenant at Halo 4. If you want to play against Covenants, there's Halo Wars, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST and Halo Reach for that. Go play those games if you want to kill those Covenants so badly.

Halo 4 is set on new trilogy and likely enemies will be Forerunners and Precursors, probably Flood. Which we want to fight instead of fighting Covenant for straight ten years. TEN YEARS.

[Edited on 07.27.2011 6:47 PM PDT]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about because you just got un-banned. and you know i made this thread so i am going to check/post in it right? if you don't want to talk to me the stop posting in this thread or go back to the waypoint forums.


You are probably the biggest hater on this website. <3


And this is where i get you banned again.


Everybody needs to listen to this


They aren't going to be in the new trilogy from everything karen is saying

  • 07.27.2011 6:49 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about because you just got un-banned. and you know i made this thread so i am going to check/post in it right? if you don't want to talk to me the stop posting in this thread or go back to the waypoint forums.


You are probably the biggest hater on this website. <3


Enough. He has been here longer than you have. Hell, I am here longer than you as well. Also, Cobra is number one hater, not Grey.

And let me explain something to your thick skull so you can clearly understand.

There will be no UNSC/Covenant at Halo 4. If you want to play against Covenants, there's Halo Wars, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST and Halo Reach for that. Go play those games if you want to kill those Covenants so badly.

Halo 4 is set on new trilogy and likely enemies will be Forerunners and Precursors, probably Flood. Which we want to fight instead of fighting Covenant for straight ten years. TEN YEARS.


And that's when you realize... you have no proof whatsoever...!

  • 07.27.2011 6:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about because you just got un-banned. and you know i made this thread so i am going to check/post in it right? if you don't want to talk to me the stop posting in this thread or go back to the waypoint forums.


You are probably the biggest hater on this website. <3


Enough. He has been here longer than you have. Hell, I am here longer than you as well. Also, Cobra is number one hater, not Grey.

And let me explain something to your thick skull so you can clearly understand.

There will be no UNSC/Covenant at Halo 4. If you want to play against Covenants, there's Halo Wars, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST and Halo Reach for that. Go play those games if you want to kill those Covenants so badly.

Halo 4 is set on new trilogy and likely enemies will be Forerunners and Precursors, probably Flood. Which we want to fight instead of fighting Covenant for straight ten years. TEN YEARS.


And that's when you realize... you have no proof whatsoever...!


this entire thread is proof and listen to this fully then tell me that the covenant will be in halo 4

no they won't

  • 07.27.2011 6:51 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about because you just got un-banned. and you know i made this thread so i am going to check/post in it right? if you don't want to talk to me the stop posting in this thread or go back to the waypoint forums.


You are probably the biggest hater on this website. <3


And this is where i get you banned again.


Everybody needs to listen to this


They aren't going to be in the new trilogy from everything karen is saying


And what will I get banned for? Harassment? Disrespect? Because you're giving me plenty of that yourself.

  • 07.27.2011 6:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about because you just got un-banned. and you know i made this thread so i am going to check/post in it right? if you don't want to talk to me the stop posting in this thread or go back to the waypoint forums.


You are probably the biggest hater on this website. <3


Enough. He has been here longer than you have. Hell, I am here longer than you as well. Also, Cobra is number one hater, not Grey.

And let me explain something to your thick skull so you can clearly understand.

There will be no UNSC/Covenant at Halo 4. If you want to play against Covenants, there's Halo Wars, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST and Halo Reach for that. Go play those games if you want to kill those Covenants so badly.

Halo 4 is set on new trilogy and likely enemies will be Forerunners and Precursors, probably Flood. Which we want to fight instead of fighting Covenant for straight ten years. TEN YEARS.


And that's when you realize... you have no proof whatsoever...!
Lemme find you some proof.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about because you just got un-banned. and you know i made this thread so i am going to check/post in it right? if you don't want to talk to me the stop posting in this thread or go back to the waypoint forums.


You are probably the biggest hater on this website. <3


And this is where i get you banned again.


Everybody needs to listen to this


They aren't going to be in the new trilogy from everything karen is saying


And what will I get banned for? Harassment? Disrespect? Because you're giving me plenty of that yourself.


harassment because you keep insulting me for no reason not to mention de-railing this thread.

  • 07.27.2011 6:52 PM PDT

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Wow holy -blam!- this is awful. Would you two quit bickering.
Ruby:shut up and quit yer trolling
Grey: if he won't shut up then just let him be he's just trolling, and your reactions are making him successful.

  • 07.27.2011 6:57 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about because you just got un-banned. and you know i made this thread so i am going to check/post in it right? if you don't want to talk to me the stop posting in this thread or go back to the waypoint forums.


You are probably the biggest hater on this website. <3


And this is where i get you banned again.


Everybody needs to listen to this


They aren't going to be in the new trilogy from everything karen is saying


And what will I get banned for? Harassment? Disrespect? Because you're giving me plenty of that yourself.


harassment because you keep insulting me for no reason not to mention de-railing this thread.


Excuse me-- what?
My first post was completely on-topic, then I just posted a short little response to somebody else's post. I didn't do anything, you derailed your own thread.
This back and forth is extremely stupid. You're the one who insists on calling me stupid for having a different view. I'm only saying what I do because of your tendency to assert your views rudely, and as fact when you have barely any valid proof to back it up.

You assume that because we've been fighting them for ten years, that everybody's tired of the Covenant. That's wrong. that's the only thing you say when I speak of the gameplay. Other than that, you're talking about the story and how it's scared, and unchangable. You're looking at this from one standpoint.
But, the same could be said for me. However, I have my reasons. Relying on novels to tell the story of a game is just lazy, so that's why I only involved myself within the stories and information within the games only when arguing.


[Edited on 07.27.2011 7:02 PM PDT]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I called you stupid once in this thread because of you un-needed comment about mine and cobra's "ego". had you not have said that we wouldn't be arguing right now.

you need to learn how to keep your opinions about somebody separate from the subject at hand. If you can't do that you don't need to be on the internet


and the novels are needed because it is IMPOSSIBLE to tell a story on games alone.

How about you go and play red faction and then tell me no books are fine

[Edited on 07.27.2011 7:04 PM PDT]

  • 07.27.2011 7:02 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
I called you stupid once in this thread because of you un-needed comment about mine and cobra's "ego". had you not have said that we wouldn't be arguing right now.

you need to learn how to keep your opinions about somebody separate from the subject at hand. If you can't do that you don't need to be on the internet


Do you not understand the concept of opinion and debate?
How can you make a thread with full of ignorant statements, and not expect people to contradict you? *I say "opinion", but that doesn't mean I don't look at them critically.

And about the "ego" comment, look at your posts. As I said in my previous post, you rudely assert your views whenever somebody else possesses a different opinion. Not only that, but you attack users on the forum when they get one single fact about your beloved canon incorrect.

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Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about because you just got un-banned. and you know i made this thread so i am going to check/post in it right? if you don't want to talk to me the stop posting in this thread or go back to the waypoint forums.


You are probably the biggest hater on this website. <3


Enough. He has been here longer than you have. Hell, I am here longer than you as well. Also, Cobra is number one hater, not Grey.

And let me explain something to your thick skull so you can clearly understand.

There will be no UNSC/Covenant at Halo 4. If you want to play against Covenants, there's Halo Wars, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST and Halo Reach for that. Go play those games if you want to kill those Covenants so badly.

Halo 4 is set on new trilogy and likely enemies will be Forerunners and Precursors, probably Flood. Which we want to fight instead of fighting Covenant for straight ten years. TEN YEARS.


And that's when you realize... you have no proof whatsoever...!


I do have proof. Checkmate, mate.

Let's face it, there will be no UNSC/Covenant at Halo 4, PERIOD. Accept that and move on. If you don't like that, don't bother to purchasing the game. Also, reported for harassing and derailing the thread.

  • 07.27.2011 7:07 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

and the novels are needed because it is IMPOSSIBLE to tell a story on games alone.


Your stubbornness is showing. I'm leaving this thread, this is getting way out of hand. (everybody who hates me, rejoice!)



[Edited on 07.27.2011 7:53 PM PDT]

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Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101

and the novels are needed because it is IMPOSSIBLE to tell a story on games alone.


Your stubbornness is showing. I'm leaving this thread, this is getting way out of hand. (everybody who hates me, rejoice!)


Actually, he is right. To order to have their own universe to be expanded to keep fans in, they write the books. Like Halo, they wrote several novels and it proved to be great additional to the Halo universe.

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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

I think we are all getting off topic here with this flamefest. I don't care what any of you said to any other, just stay on topic. This is about wheter or not the Covenant or the UNSC will be in the new trilogy, not who is the biggest hater on these forums.

  • 07.27.2011 7:36 PM PDT

Not sure why you people are -blam!-ing about the UNSC...

  • 07.27.2011 7:46 PM PDT

My Grandfather was a Desert Ranger, my Father was a Veteran Ranger in the NCR. My father was killed by Caesar's Legion and they took my Brother. It's now my responsibility to uphold the mantle of the Rangers and avenge my Father and find my Brother.

I kinda want the UNSC to be in it. ODST's are epic.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: grey101

and the novels are needed because it is IMPOSSIBLE to tell a story on games alone.


Your stubbornness is showing. I'm leaving this thread, this is getting way out of hand. (everybody who hates me, rejoice!)



stubborn? what about the people that can't read or hear but would like to love halo? thats where books and audio books come in.

stop being ignorant,childish, and selfish.

  • 07.28.2011 4:52 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: grey101
stubborn? what about the people that can't read or hear but would like to love halo? thats where books and audio books come in.

stop being ignorant,childish, and selfish.


If you can find me a blind person who's never heard of Halo before if they'd be interested in taking up listening to audio books based on a video game who will answer with an emphatic yes, I will give you my fourteenth daughter.

  • 07.28.2011 5:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101
stubborn? what about the people that can't read or hear but would like to love halo? thats where books and audio books come in.

stop being ignorant,childish, and selfish.


If you can find me a blind person who's never heard of Halo before if they'd be interested in taking up listening to audio books based on a video game who will answer with an emphatic yes, I will give you my fourteenth daughter.


There was a kid that went to my high school that was obsessed over starwars (blind) and after i started talking to him about aliens and halo he looked them up and got into them.

As if no blind people know of videogames or try to get into them; which is where the books and audio books help them.


You then have the deaf people; it would suck for them if all the forerunners and stuff ONLY appeared in the games,why? subtitles wouldn't do it. If they have books they can digest that culture instead of going of lame subtitles.


I don't want your daughter and get the joke, but ruby needs to stop being ignorant and understand there are reasons for books and other media.

  • 07.28.2011 5:13 AM PDT

So if that were true they could go anywhere with the story...hmmmm...intersting.

  • 07.28.2011 6:55 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101
The thing is frog and coma that frankie himself clearly said "you won't need to play the old trilogy to get the new one" remember that alright?

I respect you both but everything you have been saying is going off the notion of the old games, if any scrap of covenant or UNSC were to be in that would confuse the newcomers (which i put at 6-7) that will be playing the game for the first time.

Now more than ever is a time where reading the books and paying attention to the lore because important, because 30 years from now there aren't going to be forerunners,flood,covenant,UNSC,precursors, in a game to ease the new story with new enemies.


Everything i said is going off of what frankie and the current timeline has said, i am not trying to half-ass this or make up fan fiction.


Here's a part of what I posted in Joshua's thread on this issue:
"Carrying over characters/consequences and the like from an earlier trilogy or event does not at all mean that newcomers won't get it at all, like in the series of novels I'm writing, I have two trilogies, and one could quite easily pick up the second without having read the first and get it completely, even though all the old characters remain present and it is essentially cleaning up the consequences from the first trilogy as well as combating the current threat. What makes you think the same is impossible with Halo?"

Just because information pertaining to the Original Halo Trilogy have the possibility of cropping up in Halo 4's Trilogy does not mean they would be completely incomprehensible to newcomers, it's actually just like the Star Wars movies really, you don't need the other trilogy to understand what's going on in the other, but knowing one of them only adds to your knowledge, comprehension, and understanding of the other.

You shouldn't have to read the books to understand the universe, the games have always been the primary source for Halo's knowledge because Halo is a game series. Now that does not mean the books are worthless, it just means that they are not the primary source and are merely supplementary, while still valuable sources for information, they should not be the only thing laying all the primary groundwork for new information.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

It clearly helps when you seen the first trilogy because i started off on the second and said "this is g@y and i don;t see the point". in which my stepdad turned the movie off and said "your ether watch all the prequels or your grounded".


so i said in the house ALL FRIGGIN DAY and watch the prequels THEN the sequels.

And the fact that nobody reads the books is the exact reason 343 should just jump ahead with he new trilogy instead of hand feeding people not to mention it is smart marketing. Make the second trilogy jump forward and if you don't get it well you gotta but the first one= more money for microsoft.


I just don't see how people are supporting the covenant coming into the story regardless of the fact they don't have involvement,support for being in, or any story to tell. What have the prophets been sipping tea on that planet the entire time? or have the elites "secretly found a forerunner world but their massive CSO carrier crashed and they are gonna fight you for a way out"?

Lets have an arbiter campaign! where we switch back and forth! chief's campaign will be serious; while arby will be "real elites of sanghelios" where we see how the macho elites would rather somehow find chief and get in his way other than save their failing society!

People say "i have no proof or support" for my claims regardless of the fact frankie of what frankie said twice (and if you missed it rob you missed it, he said it live and you were probably sleeping). So i'll edit my OP with a timeline so i have more non existent proof.


I never understood how when there is a direct statement on something people try finding loopholes, yet when something is heavily implied they nod it off. How about this, i have no proof or support for my claim, so lets see somebody come up with a plausible reason for why and how the covenant will be in.


-no switching campaigns.

- explain how they got to the planet, how many of them are their, what they are doing, etc

- add a "fun factor!" since gameplay seems to be more important than actual story.

-now keep them relevant for the entire trilogy.


Somebody do that and lets see how that turns out, And yes i am being highly sarcastic and a little pissed because it doesn't make sense whatsoever. While we are at it, make a plot for ANOTHER trilogy and have covenant in it and show us how that could go.

  • 07.29.2011 5:44 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101
It clearly helps when you seen the first trilogy because i started off on the second and said "this is g@y and i don;t see the point". in which my stepdad turned the movie off and said "your ether watch all the prequels or your grounded".


so i said in the house ALL FRIGGIN DAY and watch the prequels THEN the sequels.

And the fact that nobody reads the books is the exact reason 343 should just jump ahead with he new trilogy instead of hand feeding people not to mention it is smart marketing. Make the second trilogy jump forward and if you don't get it well you gotta but the first one= more money for microsoft.


I just don't see how people are supporting the covenant coming into the story regardless of the fact they don't have involvement,support for being in, or any story to tell. What have the prophets been sipping tea on that planet the entire time? or have the elites "secretly found a forerunner world but their massive CSO carrier crashed and they are gonna fight you for a way out"?

Lets have an arbiter campaign! where we switch back and forth! chief's campaign will be serious; while arby will be "real elites of sanghelios" where we see how the macho elites would rather somehow find chief and get in his way other than save their failing society!

People say "i have no proof or support" for my claims regardless of the fact frankie of what frankie said twice (and if you missed it rob you missed it, he said it live and you were probably sleeping). So i'll edit my OP with a timeline so i have more non existent proof.


I never understood how when there is a direct statement on something people try finding loopholes, yet when something is heavily implied they nod it off. How about this, i have no proof or support for my claim, so lets see somebody come up with a plausible reason for why and how the covenant will be in.


-no switching campaigns.

- explain how they got to the planet, how many of them are their, what they are doing, etc

- add a "fun factor!" since gameplay seems to be more important than actual story.

-now keep them relevant for the entire trilogy.


Somebody do that and lets see how that turns out, And yes i am being highly sarcastic and a little pissed because it doesn't make sense whatsoever. While we are at it, make a plot for ANOTHER trilogy and have covenant in it and show us how that could go.


Heh, I'm not so sure about that *shrug* I'll just agree to disagree about the Star Wars Trilogies.

You don't need to be condescending about it Grey :/ I just think it's very premature at this point to claim with any degree of certainty that the Covenant won't be in the new trilogy. I think it's safer to claim they won't be in Halo 4 seeing as that will be what will be setting up the plot for the new trilogy. And the various Covenant species are still important to the overall story of Halo, they're just not the focal point of this current arc, doesn't mean they can't or won't appear in some capacity in the story. Especially the Elites, they're more major players than the rest of the Covenant are at this current point.

  • 08.06.2011 9:27 PM PDT

Didn't Halo 3 end in March 2553 not Decemember 2552?

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