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Subject: Why didn't the UNSC use NOVA Bombs more often?

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NOVA Bombs are capable of destroying a small planet. Why not use it on the Covenant? It may be expensive but it's pretty powerfull.

One Nova Bomb was accidentally detonated between a Covenant oupost planet and it's moon. It scorched half the planet ad shattered it's moon. The planet is now rendered uninhabitable.

[Edited on 07.27.2011 11:25 PM PDT]

  • 07.27.2011 11:15 PM PDT

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Radiation. Derp.

It would linger in space and enough remains could knock off navigation systems of ships and potentially harm crew, using them near a planet is obviously not too good of an idea if its UNSC controlled.

  • 07.27.2011 11:19 PM PDT

Do you realize the one NOVA we used was only a prototype? We didn't even have a finished version of it yet!

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By 2552, the UNSC was running low on high-yield thermonuclear devices. Not only were they expensive, it was increasingly difficult to find a sufficient amount of uranium to build more of them and also keep up with the Navy's demand.

[Edited on 07.27.2011 11:27 PM PDT]

  • 07.27.2011 11:26 PM PDT

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Firstly, as it's already mentioned above, the UNSC has neither the money nor the time to construct many of these bombs.
And secondly, the main problem is that nobody knows the exact positions of the Covenant home worlds!!

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  • 07.28.2011 1:42 AM PDT

Resources, radiation after effects and the economy.

  • 07.28.2011 1:57 AM PDT

In Halo: Ghost of Oynx, Spartans are deployed to steal FENRIS nukes from Rebels. This is a clear sign like it was said above me that the UNSC were running low on uranium and simply couldn't keep up with the supply and demand of nuclear weapons. They couldn't simply just go making them, they were fighting a war and losing. You should know that their economy would be shattered by the loss of entires worlds and loss of many ships and soldiers for almost 30 years.

  • 07.28.2011 2:00 AM PDT
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The only reason why the NOVA bomb was so powerful was because it was exploded inside the covenant ship.

The energy shielding keeping the explosion in, maginifying the power.

Detonating a nuke outside would have little to no effect on most covenant ships, and I doubt the covenant has any controlled planets around the Colonies that is worth using a NOVA bomb on.

  • 07.28.2011 2:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sigma617

Posted by: Poy Poy
The only reason why the NOVA bomb was so powerful was because it was exploded inside the covenant ship.

The energy shielding keeping the explosion in, maginifying the power.

Detonating a nuke outside would have little to no effect on most covenant ships, and I doubt the covenant has any controlled planets around the Colonies that is worth using a NOVA bomb on.


No. The NOVA is a planet cracker. it's gonna destroy ANYTHING within a thousand miles of ground zero. No exceptions.
Seconded. The shields only increase the power of an internal detonation in regards to the ship its exploding inside. The NOVA vaporized the ship it was in, and went on to, as stated, shatter a moon and scorch half of Joyous Exultation.

  • 07.28.2011 4:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: ODST_SGT
By 2552, the UNSC was running low on high-yield thermonuclear devices. Not only were they expensive, it was increasingly difficult to find a sufficient amount of uranium to build more of them and also keep up with the Navy's demand.

Fussion bombs use uranium? I thought only fission bombs used that?

  • 07.28.2011 10:26 AM PDT

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Posted by: AverageSol
In Halo: Ghost of Oynx, Spartans are deployed to steal FENRIS nukes from Rebels. This is a clear sign like it was said above me that the UNSC were running low on uranium and simply couldn't keep up with the supply and demand of nuclear weapons. They couldn't simply just go making them, they were fighting a war and losing. You should know that their economy would be shattered by the loss of entires worlds and loss of many ships and soldiers for almost 30 years.
Or they didn't want rebels to have nukes.

  • 07.28.2011 10:43 AM PDT

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I'm pretty sure that by the end of the war, we only had one or two prototype NOVAs.

  • 07.28.2011 10:51 AM PDT

We almost did use a NOVA at Delta Halo (which probably would have destroyed all our enemies at once, when you think about it) but it never panned out.

  • 07.28.2011 11:01 AM PDT

Because there was only one Nova bomb built.

  • 07.28.2011 11:07 AM PDT

If the UNSC had used a Nova Bomb during Halo 2, Halo 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 would have never came about. Which is kinda lame.

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  • 07.28.2011 11:10 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Because there was only one Nova bomb built.


There was at least two; one was used on the Covenant fleet and planet, and another was requested usage on Delta Halo by Cortana, but it never came in fruition. The canon reason likely being no one would dare get too close to drop it.

  • 07.28.2011 11:10 AM PDT

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The NOVA was just a prototype by the time Reach was invaded. The UNSC was lucky they even had some working NOVA´s at the time.

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Posted by: Sigma617

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The only reason why the NOVA bomb was so powerful was because it was exploded inside the covenant ship.

The energy shielding keeping the explosion in, maginifying the power.

Detonating a nuke outside would have little to no effect on most covenant ships, and I doubt the covenant has any controlled planets around the Colonies that is worth using a NOVA bomb on.


No. The NOVA is a planet cracker. it's gonna destroy ANYTHING within a thousand miles of ground zero. No exceptions.
Seconded. The shields only increase the power of an internal detonation in regards to the ship its exploding inside. The NOVA vaporized the ship it was in, and went on to, as stated, shatter a moon and scorch half of Joyous Exultation.


Poy, they are correct. Nova is basically planet cracker, it has nine nuclear warheads fused together, it can go mini-nova when it increases the yield by hundred. Basically, it can destroy entire fleets, shatter moons and scorch the planet if it was detonated in correct place. You claimed that NOVA would have no effect on ships, which it is completely false. Yield only slightly increases as it detonated INSIDE of the ship, ONLY SLIGHTLY.

And it was estimated about to be 1.2 peratons of TNT. Now, you see, most of covenant ships (frigates, destroyers, light cruisers and battle cruisers) cannot survive against mid level megatons of TNT firepower, however while super-cruiser, super battle-ship, assault carrier and super carrier can sustain against high level megatons to low level gigatons due to shielding strength increases as size gets bigger. So NOVA is plentiful enough to destroy entire fleets without any problems.

And, At end of the war, UNSC was running out high yield thermonuclear warheads and had few NOVA left, I think because Cortana requested for NOVA bomb at Delta Halo but it never got progressed.

  • 07.28.2011 12:28 PM PDT


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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Because there was only one Nova bomb built.


There was at least two; one was used on the Covenant fleet and planet, and another was requested usage on Delta Halo by Cortana, but it never came in fruition. The canon reason likely being no one would dare get too close to drop it.


Cortana might of requested it, but did she know whether or not there was another?

The NOVA bomb on Reach was the prototype, when would they have time to build another?

  • 07.28.2011 12:39 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Because there was only one Nova bomb built.


There was at least two; one was used on the Covenant fleet and planet, and another was requested usage on Delta Halo by Cortana, but it never came in fruition. The canon reason likely being no one would dare get too close to drop it.


Cortana might of requested it, but did she know whether or not there was another?

The NOVA bomb on Reach was the prototype, when would they have time to build another?


Well, she should. Besides, what proof do you have that says there wasn't another one built? As far as we know, she knew of another that existed; doesn't mean there was a third though.

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I don't understand why people assume prototypes only have 1 model or 1 product, how many types of Mjolnir do we have?

  • 07.28.2011 12:51 PM PDT


Posted by: ferrrari
Posted by: ODST_SGT
By 2552, the UNSC was running low on high-yield thermonuclear devices. Not only were they expensive, it was increasingly difficult to find a sufficient amount of uranium to build more of them and also keep up with the Navy's demand.

Fussion bombs use uranium? I thought only fission bombs used that?

Actually, in my understanding, most of the energy in many fusion bombs comes from a tertiary stage fission blast of "cheap" U-238 triggered by high-energy neutrons from the fusion blast. Or something like that.

  • 07.28.2011 12:53 PM PDT

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