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Subject: We can Probably assume that the Beam Rifle wasn't used extensively
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If you look at this page, you can see that Bungie has given the statistics of the Beam Rifle.

Based on this information, we can deduce that the Beam Rifle wasn't used extensively until the Invasion of Earth and the Battle of Installation 00.

Why? Becuase while the maximum effective range might not be too impressive at only 4,200 ft., (which is only 1,000 ft. less than a mile) but its velocity at which it fires is incredible.

12,000 f/s.

Using simple math we can determine it would take around 1/3 of a second to reach its target at its maximum effective range of 4,200 ft. That is insanely fast for a 5 foot long rifle weapon.

The Forerunners could most certainly mass produce even more advanced weapons than that, but considering that the Covenant can even build them is mind boggling.

So, with that said, the Covenant would probably win every ground engagement if this weapon was mass produced and used throughout the H-C War.

[Edited on 07.30.2011 10:24 AM PDT]

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  • 07.30.2011 10:36 AM PDT

I think its limited range is due to its in-game scope, which is obviously not canon when the human equivilent can snipe a Prophet 4 miles away (Legends). It can probably interchange scopes, and the one we see is for medium range marksmanship.

And when you think about, a 5 foot long particle accelerator is impressive in its own right.

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International system mothercracker, do you speak it?

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You could, you know, click the link in the OP where that information is available. Works better than derailing the thread

  • 07.30.2011 10:38 AM PDT

lulz

I don't blame them for not using. I hate that thing.

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
I think its limited range is due to its in-game scope, which is obviously not canon when the human equivilent can snipe a Prophet 4 miles away (Legends). It can probably interchange scopes, and the one we see is for medium range marksmanship.
Or there is the possibility that it uses such an extensive amount of energy that is can only sustain the round for that long.

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The game functionality of weapons doesn't necessarily represent the actual canonical strength/range/whatever of a weapon. They need to be changed for balance issues so yeah.

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Posted by: Spartan1065
The game functionality of weapons doesn't necessarily represent the actual canonical strength/range/whatever of a weapon. They need to be changed for balance issues so yeah.
I do believe that is the canon range of the weapon. Websites that track Halo canon are using the information on the page listed. However, I do acknowledge the fact that it could be its gameplay range.

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  • 07.30.2011 10:42 AM PDT


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
I think its limited range is due to its in-game scope, which is obviously not canon when the human equivilent can snipe a Prophet 4 miles away (Legends). It can probably interchange scopes, and the one we see is for medium range marksmanship.
Or there is the possibility that it uses such an extensive amount of energy that is can only sustain the round for that long.


Its not so much a round as it is hyper-accelerated particles.

But my reasoing is I'd never be able to shoot a target 4 miles away at 10X zoom, which certainly is a factor for its limited range.

  • 07.30.2011 10:42 AM PDT


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Posted by: Spartan1065
The game functionality of weapons doesn't necessarily represent the actual canonical strength/range/whatever of a weapon. They need to be changed for balance issues so yeah.
I do believe that is the canon range of the weapon. Websites that track Halo canon are using the information on the page listed. However, I do acknowledge the fact that it could be its gameplay range.


The range for the Pro Pipe in Reach is less then that of what a normal U.S. Marine should be able to just toss it. Its all gameplay.

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
I think its limited range is due to its in-game scope, which is obviously not canon when the human equivilent can snipe a Prophet 4 miles away (Legends). It can probably interchange scopes, and the one we see is for medium range marksmanship.
Or there is the possibility that it uses such an extensive amount of energy that is can only sustain the round for that long.


Its not so much a round as it is hyper-accelerated particles.

But my reasoing is I'd never be able to shoot a target 4 miles away at 10X zoom, which certainly is a factor for its limited range.
Yes, well, I didn't know exactly what to call it.

That does make sense. I'm sure that the scope on the weapon can be adjusted to any range though, as it is, literally, a part of the gun.

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Hmm. I failed to notice a key piece of info in the article I linked.


"These numbers are estimates pending the procurement of a working example for investigative purposes."

That is a statement regarding its range, so its maximum range isn't even known, which makes it even more deadly than originally thought.

  • 07.30.2011 10:53 AM PDT


Posted by: Onyx81
Hmm. I failed to notice a key piece of info in the article I linked.


"These numbers are estimates pending the procurement of a working example for investigative purposes."

That is a statement regarding its range, so its maximum range isn't even known, which makes it even more deadly than originally thought.


Well that's good. I suppose 4200 feet was the longest range anyone was ever shot at with and lived to tell the tale

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Posted by: Onyx81
Hmm. I failed to notice a key piece of info in the article I linked.


"These numbers are estimates pending the procurement of a working example for investigative purposes."

That is a statement regarding its range, so its maximum range isn't even known, which makes it even more deadly than originally thought.


Well that's good. I suppose 4200 feet was the longest range anyone was ever shot at with and lived to tell the tale
Probably, and unfortunately, MC is only ever engaged in Short to Medium throughout the Halo Trilogy.

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We should know better, because we are better.

At those speeds, the rifle could hit anything. It's almost and idiot proof sniper. No need for leading the target, no need for factoring wind, a really good weapon. No wonder the Jackal Snipers could kill me so easily.

  • 07.30.2011 11:00 AM PDT

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Bungie Article's Mach 10 Vs Encyclopaedia's Mach 2.

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At those speeds, the rifle could hit anything. It's almost and idiot proof sniper. No need for leading the target, no need for factoring wind, a really good weapon. No wonder the Jackal Snipers could kill me so easily.


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Posted by: Xd00999
At those speeds, the rifle could hit anything. It's almost and idiot proof sniper. No need for leading the target, no need for factoring wind, a really good weapon. No wonder the Jackal Snipers could kill me so easily.
No doubt. Me and rag were discussing this topic, and we began to talk about if this weapon was built on the scale of a Tyrant AA Gun.

Could you even imagine?

  • 07.30.2011 11:02 AM PDT

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Bungie Article's Mach 10 Vs Encyclopaedia's Mach 2.
I'm going to go with Bungie on this one. There are too many errors in the Encyclopedia to even consider that canon if it conflicts with Bungie.

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Posted by: anton1792
Bungie Article's Mach 10 Vs Encyclopaedia's Mach 2.
I'm going to go with Bungie on this one. There are too many errors in the Encyclopedia to even consider that canon if it conflicts with Bungie.


What matters is if it conflicts with 343, and they wrote the Encyclopedia.

However, mach ten makes more sense for a particle accelerator, so I agree here.

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Posted by: anton1792
Bungie Article's Mach 10 Vs Encyclopaedia's Mach 2.
I'm going to go with Bungie on this one. There are too many errors in the Encyclopedia to even consider that canon if it conflicts with Bungie.


What matters is if it conflicts with 343, and they wrote the Encyclopedia.

However, mach ten makes more sense for a particle accelerator, so I agree here.
I hope they don't change it to Mach 2. Slowly but surely, 343i is making the covenant weaker in their retcons

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