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OT: I would love to see a UNSC/Covenant Joint Operation raid on Xia or Odina.

*This is obviously before the wank saga began, and during the Voya Nui saga.*

  • 07.31.2011 4:42 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: Devils Preists
Bionicle..why? Because they're legos and they can piece themselves back together. If they melt they just remold into something else. XD


What about total and complete vaporization past sub-atomic particles? Because that's what they'll be facing from the Forerunners.


They're -blam!- legos. It's already retarded enough that this discussion is here. I mean are you people really that sad? This is the worst VS thread I HAVE EVER SEEEN. XD I almost thought it was a joke.

  • 07.31.2011 4:48 PM PDT

You can't be asking me to put up one of my childhood joys against my fav sic-fi universe?

Mah headz will explox!?!!¡£

  • 07.31.2011 4:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: Devils Preists

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: Devils Preists
Bionicle..why? Because they're legos and they can piece themselves back together. If they melt they just remold into something else. XD


What about total and complete vaporization past sub-atomic particles? Because that's what they'll be facing from the Forerunners.


They're -blam!- legos. It's already retarded enough that this discussion is here. I mean are you people really that sad? This is the worst VS thread I HAVE EVER SEEEN. XD I almost thought it was a joke.

Do you have something against Bionicle? The Universe is surprisingly deep for a primarily toy and comic based universe.

  • 07.31.2011 4:51 PM PDT

Thanks Cmdr for explaining the Precursor thing.

  • 07.31.2011 4:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Devils Preists

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: Devils Preists
Bionicle..why? Because they're legos and they can piece themselves back together. If they melt they just remold into something else. XD


What about total and complete vaporization past sub-atomic particles? Because that's what they'll be facing from the Forerunners.


They're -blam!- legos. It's already retarded enough that this discussion is here. I mean are you people really that sad? This is the worst VS thread I HAVE EVER SEEEN. XD I almost thought it was a joke.

Do you have something against Bionicle? The Universe is surprisingly deep for a primarily toy and comic based universe.


He's against how a fun versus thread got derailed into forerunner worship.

  • 07.31.2011 4:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Devils Preists

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: Devils Preists
Bionicle..why? Because they're legos and they can piece themselves back together. If they melt they just remold into something else. XD


What about total and complete vaporization past sub-atomic particles? Because that's what they'll be facing from the Forerunners.


They're -blam!- legos. It's already retarded enough that this discussion is here. I mean are you people really that sad? This is the worst VS thread I HAVE EVER SEEEN. XD I almost thought it was a joke.

Do you have something against Bionicle? The Universe is surprisingly deep for a primarily toy and comic based universe.


I know right, I'm actually rather ticked off that Lego decided to cancel the series :/ Well the toys anyway, they're still somewhat carrying on the story with updates coming every so often...but yeah, Bionicle has a pretty complex universe going on, especially now that the denizens of Mata Nui's body are all running loose on Bara Magna and a couple new Cthulhu inspired terrors are now running rampant as well. Oh and the whole hint that the Great Beings may be coming back.

  • 07.31.2011 4:57 PM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Devils Preists

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: Devils Preists
Bionicle..why? Because they're legos and they can piece themselves back together. If they melt they just remold into something else. XD


What about total and complete vaporization past sub-atomic particles? Because that's what they'll be facing from the Forerunners.


They're -blam!- legos. It's already retarded enough that this discussion is here. I mean are you people really that sad? This is the worst VS thread I HAVE EVER SEEEN. XD I almost thought it was a joke.


angry twelve year old much? its 8 pm,go to bed

  • 07.31.2011 4:57 PM PDT


Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Devils Preists

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: Devils Preists
Bionicle..why? Because they're legos and they can piece themselves back together. If they melt they just remold into something else. XD


What about total and complete vaporization past sub-atomic particles? Because that's what they'll be facing from the Forerunners.


They're -blam!- legos. It's already retarded enough that this discussion is here. I mean are you people really that sad? This is the worst VS thread I HAVE EVER SEEEN. XD I almost thought it was a joke.

Do you have something against Bionicle? The Universe is surprisingly deep for a primarily toy and comic based universe.


Actually no, but honestly. This entire topic seems to be Magic vs Tech IMO and quite honestly it's like saying. "OH LOOK DRAGON AGE VS MASS EFFECT!!"

I can't take this topic seriously or anyone in it honestly. I find this entire topic illogical. You're putting a Sci-fi up against a Fantasy. DERP!

I'm sorry but even you have to admit this is a little stupid. If we're that desperate for Versus threads then pit Star trek against Halo. Atleast then I can take it seriously. OR Star fox even. Not a Techno-Magic Fantasy, that'd be better off in a Dragon Age Vs Bionicle topic.

  • 07.31.2011 4:59 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Devils Preists

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: Devils Preists
Bionicle..why? Because they're legos and they can piece themselves back together. If they melt they just remold into something else. XD


What about total and complete vaporization past sub-atomic particles? Because that's what they'll be facing from the Forerunners.


They're -blam!- legos. It's already retarded enough that this discussion is here. I mean are you people really that sad? This is the worst VS thread I HAVE EVER SEEEN. XD I almost thought it was a joke.


angry twelve year old much? its 8 pm,go to bed


So I'm twelve because I find this topic retarded in nature? Gee way to troll someone before you hear their reasoning.

  • 07.31.2011 5:00 PM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

Greg Farshtey was really dedicated to this. You got to give him credit, making the entire universe himself. I still love that stuff. You also have to wonder what the effects on Bara Magna will be. Slamming a pair of planets into it is bound to cause some big climate problems, especially considering one is all water.

  • 07.31.2011 5:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: Devils Preists
Bionicle..why? Because they're legos and they can piece themselves back together. If they melt they just remold into something else. XD[/quote]

What about total and complete vaporization past sub-atomic particles? Because that's what they'll be facing from the Forerunners.[/quote]

They're -blam!- legos. It's already retarded enough that this discussion is here. I mean are you people really that sad? This is the worst VS thread I HAVE EVER SEEEN. XD I almost thought it was a joke.[/quote]

angry twelve year old much? its 8 pm,go to bed


So I'm twelve because I find this topic retarded in nature? Gee way to troll someone before you hear their reasoning.


yes because you are whining about it when you clearly don't have to participate in the conversation. much like a twelve year old whines like something he knows nothing about.

Troll? so what is you reason for acting childish?

  • 07.31.2011 5:06 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: OrderedComa
This thread is bringing back fond memories ^_^ Bionicle was a lot of fun, I always got all of the Earth characters, they were the coolest :D


Used to read all the comics... until the damn magazine rarely arrived/skipped several months :(.

I infact have five bionicle figures behind me on the shelf :P.


Oh yeah, I was really into the story, we stopped getting the comics around the time of the Bohrok Kal I believe, and I remember feeling very frustrated that the online archive of them was so slow to update with new issues. It's nice that even though they canceled the toyline they have the kindness to continue finishing the story, even if updates are painfully slow in coming :/ Such an entertaining story :)

...I can't help but wonder if Makuta Teridax actually really is gone, knowing how devious his plans are it would not surprise me at all if he had some sort of contingency plan for if he got kicked out, his plot to take over Mata Nui's body was probably one of the greatest schemes I've ever seen a villain pull off!

I have Bionicle figures of all shapes, sizes, series, and factions scattered all over my room, haha, amongst other Lego contraptions of my creation :P

Back onto the topic at hand, the Forerunners and Precursors are not the end all and be all, there are plenty of monstrosities or powerful being in Bionicle that either severely outclass them are highly capable of giving them a good run for their money. Tren Krom comes to mind, or the Great Beings, or hell even some of the more ordinary guys could as well. And I don't think a Halo would really work on most of the Bionicle characters as the vast majority of them are mostly machine. The only truly organic characters I can think of would be the new races and characters introduced in the Bara Magna series.

  • 07.31.2011 5:10 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Devils Preists

Posted by: Devils Preists
Bionicle..why? Because they're legos and they can piece themselves back together. If they melt they just remold into something else. XD[/quote]

What about total and complete vaporization past sub-atomic particles? Because that's what they'll be facing from the Forerunners.[/quote]

They're -blam!- legos. It's already retarded enough that this discussion is here. I mean are you people really that sad? This is the worst VS thread I HAVE EVER SEEEN. XD I almost thought it was a joke.[/quote]

angry twelve year old much? its 8 pm,go to bed


So I'm twelve because I find this topic retarded in nature? Gee way to troll someone before you hear their reasoning.


yes because you are whining about it when you clearly don't have to participate in the conversation. much like a twelve year old whines like something he knows nothing about.

Troll? so what is you reason for acting childish?


Me acting childish? I'm sorry but if you dislike my post so much why even post in response to it?

Yes I agree that I came off as whiney but you responding in the manner that you did made you come off as a bit of a dick in truth and what better word to use then troll.

It's a much more polite way of saying things IMO.

Yes actually I was expressing my opinion because in truth I can't believe that it's here. But your right silly me for expressing my Opinions in a topic that clearly doesn't want any thing like that.

So in this case we're both the children. You for responding in a disrespectful manner and me for being a whiney -blam!-.

  • 07.31.2011 5:12 PM PDT


Posted by: Xd00999
Greg Farshtey was really dedicated to this. You got to give him credit, making the entire universe himself. I still love that stuff. You also have to wonder what the effects on Bara Magna will be. Slamming a pair of planets into it is bound to cause some big climate problems, especially considering one is all water.


Indeed, I just spent a good chunk of the afternoon reading stuff on the Bionicle wiki and reading up on the current story releases XD There's apparently been a Great Being that disguised itself as a denizen of Mata Nui's body and has been lurking about all this time and is now running around and assassinating all of the most powerful characters who would pose the most significant threat to it, so far it's gotten Karzahni and Tren Krom and set up a nasty trap for Axon, Artahka, Brutahka, Vezon, Tuyet, the Great Being the Mask of Life cursed, Miserax, and whoever the other people in that group was.

Yeah...didn't Mata Nui pretty much heal Spherus Magna completely after Aqua Magna and Bota Magna collided with Bara Magna?

  • 07.31.2011 5:20 PM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.


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Posted by: Xd00999
Greg Farshtey was really dedicated to this. You got to give him credit, making the entire universe himself. I still love that stuff. You also have to wonder what the effects on Bara Magna will be. Slamming a pair of planets into it is bound to cause some big climate problems, especially considering one is all water.


Indeed, I just spent a good chunk of the afternoon reading stuff on the Bionicle wiki and reading up on the current story releases XD There's apparently been a Great Being that disguised itself as a denizen of Mata Nui's body and has been lurking about all this time and is now running around and assassinating all of the most powerful characters who would pose the most significant threat to it, so far it's gotten Karzahni and Tren Krom and set up a nasty trap for Axon, Artahka, Brutahka, Vezon, Tuyet, the Great Being the Mask of Life cursed, Miserax, and whoever the other people in that group was.

Yeah...didn't Mata Nui pretty much heal Spherus Magna completely after Aqua Magna and Bota Magna collided with Bara Magna?

That definitely opens up dozens of potential story lines right there! And Teridax was running one of the best Xanatos gambits I've seen.
Ah, nostalgia, how I've missed you. I remember collecting every single Bionicle I could find.

  • 07.31.2011 6:05 PM PDT


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Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: Xd00999
Greg Farshtey was really dedicated to this. You got to give him credit, making the entire universe himself. I still love that stuff. You also have to wonder what the effects on Bara Magna will be. Slamming a pair of planets into it is bound to cause some big climate problems, especially considering one is all water.


Indeed, I just spent a good chunk of the afternoon reading stuff on the Bionicle wiki and reading up on the current story releases XD There's apparently been a Great Being that disguised itself as a denizen of Mata Nui's body and has been lurking about all this time and is now running around and assassinating all of the most powerful characters who would pose the most significant threat to it, so far it's gotten Karzahni and Tren Krom and set up a nasty trap for Axon, Artahka, Brutahka, Vezon, Tuyet, the Great Being the Mask of Life cursed, Miserax, and whoever the other people in that group was.

Yeah...didn't Mata Nui pretty much heal Spherus Magna completely after Aqua Magna and Bota Magna collided with Bara Magna?

That definitely opens up dozens of potential story lines right there! And Teridax was running one of the best Xanatos gambits I've seen.
Ah, nostalgia, how I've missed you. I remember collecting every single Bionicle I could find.


Mhm, that's partly why I'm annoyed with the toyline being canceled, I want to know what all of these new characters look like >_> It really does open up a whole bunch of possibilities, I wonder who the disguised Great Being is, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he/she is someone we all know fairly well from one of the various time periods of the story.

Definitely, I'd want Teridax on my side as a strategist any day XD He's like the ultimate chess master and magnificent bastard.

Oh yeah, I always got all of the Earth characters (or Stone in the case of Bara Magna), it was actually rather cool, for most of Bionicle's history there were enough guys for each my siblings and I to get one. Toward the end though only I was really collecting them, so I have a couple colors other than black now. Between me and my brothers we probably have at least one of every Bionicle figure ever made, the only one we don't have is the blue Hordika and some of the Rahi from the first generation.

  • 07.31.2011 6:28 PM PDT
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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship


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Posted by: Xd00999
Greg Farshtey was really dedicated to this. You got to give him credit, making the entire universe himself. I still love that stuff. You also have to wonder what the effects on Bara Magna will be. Slamming a pair of planets into it is bound to cause some big climate problems, especially considering one is all water.


Indeed, I just spent a good chunk of the afternoon reading stuff on the Bionicle wiki and reading up on the current story releases XD There's apparently been a Great Being that disguised itself as a denizen of Mata Nui's body and has been lurking about all this time and is now running around and assassinating all of the most powerful characters who would pose the most significant threat to it, so far it's gotten Karzahni and Tren Krom and set up a nasty trap for Axon, Artahka, Brutahka, Vezon, Tuyet, the Great Being the Mask of Life cursed, Miserax, and whoever the other people in that group was.

Yeah...didn't Mata Nui pretty much heal Spherus Magna completely after Aqua Magna and Bota Magna collided with Bara Magna?

That definitely opens up dozens of potential story lines right there! And Teridax was running one of the best Xanatos gambits I've seen.
Ah, nostalgia, how I've missed you. I remember collecting every single Bionicle I could find.


Which category is Bionicle under in TV Tropes?

Also, Azazel's Xanatos Gambit matches Teridax's.
PS. who the heck is Teridax?

And I'm sad that people ignored my proposed battlefield simulation.

[Edited on 07.31.2011 7:21 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2011 6:53 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

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If we're talking Inika, the Bionicleverse would win.

End of story.

Additionally, Makuta and Mata Nui could just shoot anything out of orbit that tried to kill them. Nukes? Give me a break.


You could argue that Halo could kill them all, but think again. They're robots! And if you don't buy that argument, I'm sure Makuta could just use that gravity bomb thing of his to wipe out all the Halo rings within minutes.


And like I said. Inika. That's already more than any covie fleet/UNSC fleet/Forerunner could handle.



Oh, well then again, you have spartans.

And Chief. Who always has luck on his side, which was kinda what killed Makuta in the end...


...


I still say Bionicle.


Try this one: They can't touch the Precursors.

But we're not really talking about them because they're an instant-win faction (unless Bionicle has an equally overpowered race of gods who under no uncertain terms cannot be targeted and fought with anything short of a Halo Ring set to a certain frequency, bar nothing.)

Since the Bionicles have no weapons to fight them with, and thus auto-lose, I believe we're just talking about normal races. But still, I know as much about Bionicle as Factpile knows about logic, so they could have a god-race I don't know about, at which point this would be a tie citing the eternal conundrum paradox. Precursors can't touch them, they can't touch the Precursors.

Anyway, the weakest known Forerunner ship, a 1 km, tiny little thing, is called a Planet Breaker. Take that how you will, but do the Bionicles have anything that could survive a multi-hundred-terraton attack?


Not to mention the 10k strong generic Forerunner fleet firing their heavy guns at the same time.

Still... against DBZ cultures like this...


No, I was asking a real question, I have no clue about anything of the Bionicles; I wasn't trying to say "Forerunners>Bionicles" using ironic language, if thats what you thought. As far as I know, they're a toy with a TV show (I think) so anything regarding martial capabilities is a complete mystery to me.

  • 07.31.2011 7:15 PM PDT

Oh yeah, I was really into the story, we stopped getting the comics around the time of the Bohrok Kal I believe, and I remember feeling very frustrated that the online archive of them was so slow to update with new issues. It's nice that even though they canceled the toyline they have the kindness to continue finishing the story, even if updates are painfully slow in coming :/ Such an entertaining story :)

...I can't help but wonder if Makuta Teridax actually really is gone, knowing how devious his plans are it would not surprise me at all if he had some sort of contingency plan for if he got kicked out, his plot to take over Mata Nui's body was probably one of the greatest schemes I've ever seen a villain pull off!

I have Bionicle figures of all shapes, sizes, series, and factions scattered all over my room, haha, amongst other Lego contraptions of my creation :P

Back onto the topic at hand, the Forerunners and Precursors are not the end all and be all, there are plenty of monstrosities or powerful being in Bionicle that either severely outclass them are highly capable of giving them a good run for their money. Tren Krom comes to mind, or the Great Beings, or hell even some of the more ordinary guys could as well. And I don't think a Halo would really work on most of the Bionicle characters as the vast majority of them are mostly machine. The only truly organic characters I can think of would be the new races and characters introduced in the Bara Magna series.

tetridax was shure one evil SON OF A B*TCH. one of the smartest villans of all time. I was relly annoyed about how they ended the toy line, the bionicle stars were a bull-blam!- test of hero factory... either wak the mask of life would win any battle, wepons are usless when no one is alive to use them.

nice too meet a fellow bionicle fan educated in the lore.

p.s. brutaka would open a dimesinal gat to the inside of there ships and pwn them...

[Edited on 07.31.2011 7:28 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2011 7:26 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: Xd00999
Greg Farshtey was really dedicated to this. You got to give him credit, making the entire universe himself. I still love that stuff. You also have to wonder what the effects on Bara Magna will be. Slamming a pair of planets into it is bound to cause some big climate problems, especially considering one is all water.


Indeed, I just spent a good chunk of the afternoon reading stuff on the Bionicle wiki and reading up on the current story releases XD There's apparently been a Great Being that disguised itself as a denizen of Mata Nui's body and has been lurking about all this time and is now running around and assassinating all of the most powerful characters who would pose the most significant threat to it, so far it's gotten Karzahni and Tren Krom and set up a nasty trap for Axon, Artahka, Brutahka, Vezon, Tuyet, the Great Being the Mask of Life cursed, Miserax, and whoever the other people in that group was.

Yeah...didn't Mata Nui pretty much heal Spherus Magna completely after Aqua Magna and Bota Magna collided with Bara Magna?

That definitely opens up dozens of potential story lines right there! And Teridax was running one of the best Xanatos gambits I've seen.
Ah, nostalgia, how I've missed you. I remember collecting every single Bionicle I could find.


Which category is Bionicle under in TV Tropes?

Also, Azazel's Xanatos Gambit matches Teridax's.
PS. who the heck is Teridax?


It has it's own page on TV Tropes and in other articles it will appear under the "toys" heading.

Teridax is THE Makuta, you know, the main villain for almost the entirety of Bionicle's storyline. (FYI, I'm not being condescending, not meaning to be anyway, sorry if I come across that way).

  • 07.31.2011 7:28 PM PDT


Posted by: darkhalo 136
tetridax was shure one evil SON OF A B*TCH. one of the smartest villans of all time. I was relly annoyed about how they ended the toy line, the bionicle stars were a bull-blam!- test of hero factory... either wak the mask of life would win any battle, wepons are usless when no one is alive to use them.

nice too meet a fellow bionicle fan educated in the lore.

p.s. brutaka would open a dimesinal gat to the inside of there ships and pwn them...


I can only interpret what you said from my outsiders view of the series, but have you read Cryptum? Do you know what the Forerunners can do?

  • 07.31.2011 7:29 PM PDT

wheres the Flood??????????????????????

  • 07.31.2011 7:54 PM PDT

bionicles are biomehcanical beings with the power to control elements, the flood is usless

  • 07.31.2011 7:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

Teridax is called Makuta because he is the leader of the Botherhood of Makuta. He is called Makuta because he is the most prolific of them all and the last one left (I think). Same reason why you think of Obama when I say Mr. President.

@Roberto: Each To a has a mask that allows them to manipulate that element to an extent. There is a mask of fire, plasma, gravity, water, and many more. The Mask of Life is the most powerful mask and can create/destroy/evolve life. If it is destroyed, the massive outburst of power would bring every object to life.

  • 07.31.2011 7:59 PM PDT