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Subject: The mods seem Lazy recently

Expressing my strong liberal views without shame. Favorite quotes below:

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

- Albert Einstein

If moderators don't like going on the forums because they don't like them, then in all honesty, they shouldn't be moderators.

Secondly, this problem has only arisen ever since Bungie themselves went dark as can be, and it appears the ninjas have as well (at least in banning) along with Bungie while the users are still using the forums.

And finally, there has to be a ban for creating an alt account. If someone openly admits on the forums that they've made an alt account to evade a ban, they should be banned again. Just see the Reach forum, where they always brag about this.

And to Achronos, no one asked for 24/7 coverage. We're asking the moderators YOU chose to make this website BETTER, because we like to use it.

  • 07.31.2011 9:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zealot Tony
Posted by: Skibur
I don't understand how having another way to stop trolling/spamming is going to make the task any harder. It would make it easier...

Your idea isn't a bad one but it does not take in all factors such as in thread spamming, flaming, and trolling. Your idea only helps the moderators with threads created
Well a thread with a lot of activity in it could be from, you know, activity in it, not necessarily the thread itself.

  • 07.31.2011 9:01 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.


Posted by: Plasma Prestige
And finally, there has to be a ban for creating an alt account. If someone openly admits on the forums that they've made an alt account to evade a ban, they should be banned again. Just see the Reach forum, where they always brag about this.


This was done in the past and should still be in effect.

  • 07.31.2011 9:02 PM PDT


Posted by: T1B3R7uMB0YXVI

Posted by: Covy Killer

Posted by: Yoozel
Shotgun Classifieds forum!

Here's an idea: Why don't we take the flood and reach forums, and move them somewhere else?

Here's a better idea: Why don't we take bungie.net and member, and move them somewhere else?!

And member? I don't know that I understand.

  • 07.31.2011 9:02 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P


Posted by: Skibur
Posted by: Zealot Tony
Posted by: Skibur
I don't understand how having another way to stop trolling/spamming is going to make the task any harder. It would make it easier...

Your idea isn't a bad one but it does not take in all factors such as in thread spamming, flaming, and trolling. Your idea only helps the moderators with threads created
Well a thread with a lot of activity in it could be from, you know, activity in it, not necessarily the thread itself.

Yes I understand that but what about people who post against the rule material inside a thread which has done nothing wrong? Several times I have seen members of the community post troll sites to threads which just want a legit answer

  • 07.31.2011 9:05 PM PDT
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Well then we rely on what we've got at the moment... The report queue and patrolling moderators.

  • 07.31.2011 9:06 PM PDT

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@Geegs30

The forums have slowed down. Bungie has gone semi-dark. The mods are volunteers, not paid employees. You can expect them to stick around a little longer than most members here, but in times like these, I don't blame them for taking breaks; I find myself coming here less too.

Every time this thread comes up I say the same thing. More mods couldn't hurt could it? How often do the current mods really step on each others' toes while cleaning up the forums? Promote a couple senior members, raise the chances of mods being online at all times.

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More mods won't work. Sure they might be a temporary patch, but the underlying problem will still be there.

Achronos needs to look at new tactics to battle the problems the site is faced with. The report queue is one example of a tactic that has been implemented, but it shouldn't stop there.

  • 07.31.2011 9:12 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.


Posted by: Skibur
More mods won't work. Sure they might be a temporary patch, but the underlying problem will still be there.

Achronos needs to look at new tactics to battle the problems the site is faced with. The report queue is one example of a tactic that has been implemented, but it shouldn't stop there.


How about every thread goes through him before it gets seen on the forums. I think LEGO.com does that.

[Edited on 07.31.2011 9:14 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2011 9:14 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P


Posted by: Top_Gun_2021

Posted by: Skibur
More mods won't work. Sure they might be a temporary patch, but the underlying problem will still be there.

Achronos needs to look at new tactics to battle the problems the site is faced with. The report queue is one example of a tactic that has been implemented, but it shouldn't stop there.


How about every thread goes through him before it gets seen on the forums. I think LEGO.com does that.

Wouldn't that be too difficult? Bungie.net gets several threads per minute which is too much for one man to do

  • 07.31.2011 9:15 PM PDT

Rock Chalk Real Talk
Minnesotan, currently going to school at KU.


@Geegs30

Posted by: Zealot Tony
Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
Posted by: Skibur
More mods won't work. Sure they might be a temporary patch, but the underlying problem will still be there.

Achronos needs to look at new tactics to battle the problems the site is faced with. The report queue is one example of a tactic that has been implemented, but it shouldn't stop there.


How about every thread goes through him before it gets seen on the forums. I think LEGO.com does that.

Wouldn't that be too difficult? Bungie.net gets several threads per minute which is too much for one man to do

You underestimate the power of Tom. And Skibur, do you really think that having more mods now, before any functionality changes are made, is a bad idea? I can't see it having negative effects in the short or long term.

[Edited on 07.31.2011 9:18 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2011 9:17 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.


Posted by: Zealot Tony

Posted by: Top_Gun_2021

Posted by: Skibur
More mods won't work. Sure they might be a temporary patch, but the underlying problem will still be there.

Achronos needs to look at new tactics to battle the problems the site is faced with. The report queue is one example of a tactic that has been implemented, but it shouldn't stop there.


How about every thread goes through him before it gets seen on the forums. I think LEGO.com does that.

Wouldn't that be too difficult? Bungie.net gets several threads per minute which is too much for one man to do


- My post



-You


Anyways, if the most unlikely scenario they did that there would have to be a team of x amount of people.

  • 07.31.2011 9:17 PM PDT


Posted by: Top_Gun_2021

Posted by: Skibur
More mods won't work. Sure they might be a temporary patch, but the underlying problem will still be there.

Achronos needs to look at new tactics to battle the problems the site is faced with. The report queue is one example of a tactic that has been implemented, but it shouldn't stop there.


How about every thread goes through him before it gets seen on the forums. I think LEGO.com does that.

Either we would never have any new threads, or the site would never get proper maintenance.

  • 07.31.2011 9:17 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P


Posted by: Top_Gun_2021

Posted by: Zealot Tony

Posted by: Top_Gun_2021

Posted by: Skibur
More mods won't work. Sure they might be a temporary patch, but the underlying problem will still be there.

Achronos needs to look at new tactics to battle the problems the site is faced with. The report queue is one example of a tactic that has been implemented, but it shouldn't stop there.


How about every thread goes through him before it gets seen on the forums. I think LEGO.com does that.

Wouldn't that be too difficult? Bungie.net gets several threads per minute which is too much for one man to do


- My post



-You


Anyways, if the most unlikely scenario they did that there would have to be a team of x amount of people.

With x having to be dependent on the time of day I assume

  • 07.31.2011 9:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Changsta inc
Racism isn't wrong if it's funny.

People just seem to forget that all of their complaints, and any of the qualms that have been brought to head here, have all been considered by Bungie and ultimately are used and/or abandoned for the greater enjoyment of the user.

That said, yes, there are a LOT more features and things that they could add to the website to make it better and way more advanced.
So, what's the problem?

The same as it's always been. Money.

It's just too damn difficult for a few people to run (and constantly update) a website that has thousands of dedicated users coming to it each day and pounding it (hard).

Ultimately, IT'S FREE. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

So what do you get? Volunteers who, by any stretch of the imagination, ARE MUCH BETTER THAN ANY OTHER FREE SEVICE MODS AROUND. Need an example:

4chan.org

-blam!- 4chan.
So stop complaining at the mods, and instead, thank them for their kind and DONATED services.

Here's to you Mods. Thanks for your time.

-n

  • 07.31.2011 9:24 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustin 6047
Troll confirmed. I never even insulted you

Posted by: Dustin 6047
OP - You're a dumbass with the reading comprehension skills of a second grader.


Can someone tell me what's wrong with these two, this made me LOL hard.

The amount of moderators per user made is very small to me. I heard there were over millions of accounts altogether in the Bungie website itself and what, like 40 moderators with about 10% of them active at all times?

There needs to be more moderators in my opinion. It seems like there aren't enough.

  • 07.31.2011 10:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustin 6047
Troll confirmed. I never even insulted you

Posted by: Dustin 6047
OP - You're a dumbass with the reading comprehension skills of a second grader.


Can someone tell me what's wrong with these two, this made me LOL hard.


Posted by: Achronos
Some of them only read a few forums and use the reporting system to keep them appraised of the rest of the places that need their attention.

You know, because that is the entire freaking purpose of the report system. I don't expect them to make their experience here suck because their forced to lurk in places they don't like to go. The report system let's them just wait for stuff to pop up in there.

So use it, and stop complaining about how volunteers sometimes aren't giving you 24/7 full coverage.


Posted by: Nerd Boi
Why not exactly? The moderators constantly stress that they're ordinary members just like you, me or the OP. What exactly is stopping them from simply stumbling across them like the OP did?
Going on reporting sprees like that got me banned, especially in late '08 early '09, but got banned 3 years later for it. I've been avoiding the report button a lot now because of my ban.

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Posted by: Sergeant Kyuun

The same thing has happened too me! Its kinda a slap in the face for even using the damn thing in the first place.

  • 07.31.2011 11:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustin 6047
Troll confirmed. I never even insulted you

Posted by: Dustin 6047
OP - You're a dumbass with the reading comprehension skills of a second grader.


Can someone tell me what's wrong with these two, this made me LOL hard.


Posted by: stepheng0228

Posted by: Sergeant Kyuun

The same thing has happened too me! Its kinda a slap in the face for even using the damn thing in the first place.
Because of that ban, I only report the ones that everyone knows is bad. Since the rules were changed, I've become more cautious to even press the report button because one of the mods could ban me again for misinterpretation.

So yeah, I'm not reporting as much as I did back in '08-'09 because of that reason: I might get banned for having a different interpretation of "bad".

  • 07.31.2011 11:23 PM PDT
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"Posted by: Kickimanjaro
I'm trying to become an '04, but it's not working too well."

Bungie should start charging moolah.


I'd be down to pay 5 bucks a month for this website.

  • 07.31.2011 11:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustin 6047
Troll confirmed. I never even insulted you

Posted by: Dustin 6047
OP - You're a dumbass with the reading comprehension skills of a second grader.


Can someone tell me what's wrong with these two, this made me LOL hard.


Posted by: dmg04
Bungie should start charging moolah.


I'd be down to pay 5 bucks a month for this website.
I hope Iggy or Daza have coup on another website if this happens. I don't want to spend money on a video gaming website.

  • 08.01.2011 12:03 AM PDT
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"Posted by: Kickimanjaro
I'm trying to become an '04, but it's not working too well."


Posted by: Plasma Prestige
If moderators don't like going on the forums because they don't like them, then in all honesty, they shouldn't be moderators.
That's like saying you shouldn't come to Bungie.net if you don't like every game they've ever made. They aren't payed to do this. They aren't forced to do anything. Get over it.

Secondly, this problem has only arisen ever since Bungie themselves went dark as can be, and it appears the ninjas have as well (at least in banning) along with Bungie while the users are still using the forums. I'm thinking you're just freaking out because you have less content to go through from bungie, so you're spending more time worrying about worthless issues that are happening all the damn time. twice a month there's a flare up on these forums saying ZOMG THE MODS AREN'T WORKING HARD ENOUGH!!!! Well guess what! They're doing what they want and when they want to do it. That's all that we can really ask, as they're taking the time out of their days to do this for free.

And finally, there has to be a ban for creating an alt account. If someone openly admits on the forums that they've made an alt account to evade a ban, they should be banned again. Just see the Reach forum, where they always brag about this.Use the report button and or contact a damn mod. If someone openly/stupidly says HEY I MADE THIS ACCOUNT TO EVADE A BAN, they've already made it easy enough for the few clicks to ban. If you see they haven't been banned after you've reported and or contacted, get the hell over it because it's a videogame website that you don't pay a dime for.

And to Achronos, no one asked for 24/7 coverage. We're asking the moderators YOU chose to make this website BETTER, because we like to use it. They're already making the website BETTER. Imagine if NONE of them were here and the only person banning people was Achronos. Seeing as though he has other -blam!- to do during his actual hours of work, this place would be a hell hole and you know it.

I'm not trying to single you out or be a jerk to you, but seriously. Same complaints every freaking time.

Rather than sitting on the internet going blah blah blah more mods blah blah blah i'm not happy, why don't you read a book? Hang out with a friend? Play some videogames? Go about your business and report/ignore whatever you don't agree with?

  • 08.01.2011 12:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: dmg04
Bungie should start charging moolah.


I'd be down to pay 5 bucks a month for this website.

I honestly wouldn't mind having a "paying members only" section of the site. $5 a month seems pretty high. I would gladly pay a one time $10 charge to be some sort of premium Bungie.net member that gets access to Bungie Pro and other cool stuff.

  • 08.01.2011 12:04 AM PDT
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R.I.P. DeathPimp. Never Ending Respect.

"Posted by: Kickimanjaro
I'm trying to become an '04, but it's not working too well."


Posted by: Sergeant Kyuun

Posted by: dmg04
Bungie should start charging moolah.


I'd be down to pay 5 bucks a month for this website.
I hope Iggy or Daza have coup on another website if this happens. I don't want to spend money on a video gaming website.
You do realize that there are other websites out there that have all the same features as coup built straight in, no greasemonkey required?

The point of me saying that; Everyone is complaining when they're getting this for free. I mean seriously.

Mommy Bungie, i want an ice cream!
Here you are, Lil' Elmicker, hope you enjoy it!
ZOMG MOMMY BUNGIE THIS ICE CREAM HAS CHOCOLATE CHIPS IN IT I HATE CHOCOLATE CHIPS BUT I'M GOING TO EAT THIS ANYWAYS AND COMPLAIN AFTER EVERY BITE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE CHOCOLATE CHIPS!!!!!

  • 08.01.2011 12:07 AM PDT

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  • 08.01.2011 12:09 AM PDT