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Subject: The Flood is in a Crisis.

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I love how whenever there's the slightest case of trolling loose in the Flood, the reaction is always some amalgamation of "the Flood is in a state of crisis" and "the mods aren't doing their jobs!"

For one, I think you all need to learn what the term "crisis" means. According to my computer's dictionary:

crisis
noun
1. a time of intense difficulty, trouble or danger
2. a time when a difficult or important decision must be made
3. the turning point of a disease when an important change takes place, indicating either recovery or death.
4. the point in a play or story when a crucial conflict takes place, determining the outcome of the plot.


1. Difficulty? Perhaps. For us, at least. But trouble or danger? Unless you have an allergic reaction to shock sites (in which case... I'd seek professional help), I think you're effectively vaccinated.
2. A difficult or important decision? Are you really in that much of a quandary over whether or not to press the report button?
3. "Unless you have an allergic reaction to shock sites (in which case... I'd seek professional help), I think you're effectively vaccinated."
4. Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

Secondly, you people act as though it's the moderators' "duty" to be on hand at all times to take care of these things. I'm sorry to have to break it to you, but the moderators are not the National Guard. As should be well-known by now, moderating B.net is simply a volunteer gig. There's no pay, duty or obligation other than that which is created by one's self. They do their work to the best of their ability, and if that's not good enough for you, why don't you step up and do your ideal job of moderation here-- leaving yourself on call twenty-four hours a day to deal with the most minuscule spat or problem here. Doesn't sound so reasonable any longer, does it?

Yet oddly enough, even in the absence of moderators, there's still a surprising amount that you (yes, you!) can do to help!

1. Most obviously, report. Even if there are no mods on at the time, they will still receive the notification (at least, so we can assume).
2. Also pretty freaking obviously, ignore. If you ignore a troll, it will go awa-- why am I explaining this?
3. And here's the really abstract one. If, after taking the actions of one and two, you are still just so personally offended by the trolls' actions that you feel a need to whine about it here, why not... uh... sign off? Leave? Do something else?

Posted by: S Squared4
Please we need help. Than Anchrnos is going to go yell at us saying we need to clean up our act when it is probably 5 people. He wants to nuke us because of he is stereotyping that the whole Flood are a bunch of trolls that attack boards. He is blaming us for not moderating ourselves when we are constantly clicking the report button, while it is his fault for not controlling his board (Flamers going to flame).


So, have you paid any attention to Achronos' most recent thoughts on the Flood "situation"? I would certainly think it's not terribly difficult, seeing as there have been at least a dozen "omg the flood is in trubble" threads here in the past few days.

Posted by: Achronos
Some of you are not reading very well.

I don't want to nuke it. I never really did - as I explained, I said it once to wake you guys up to a basic lack of decency a few years ago. To your credit, most people got the message, and it was at least brought up to the level of the other forums. Goal accomplished, we moved on. Various others in several forums did not - they routinely bust out "nuking the forum" as a solution. That's kind of like breaking out a shotgun to deal with a pimple - it isn't really helping.

And I know full well that a lot of you just like chatting in there with your buddies, and you're not out to make trouble. You have to realize that I'm not talking about you. But unfortunately for you many users of that forum have a huge problem with any kind of authority and think that "offtopic" means whatever they damn well please. Combine that with a strange attitude problem some of them have (witness that "hypocrite" guy earlier) and you get my "cranky enforcer" attitude I have to take in there rather than the "benevolent overlord" attitude I try to take elsewhere.

Posted by: bergXX09

I am a member of the Flood like some people who have visited this thread and I think it is a little unjustifiable to judge us all by some troll or rather rude future delinquents. Basing it on that, I could assume (since this my first visit on the Bungie community forum) that all forumers in this area are whiny people who can't ignore other forums.

But as appealing as nuking the Flood may seem, that would cause Bungie.net to lose a large sum of people and it would be quite tragic. The Floodians can be bearable if one were to live there like I have and understood their prime motives. The Flood can engage in intelligent commentary about many topics and I have indulged myself in information from the threads.

Thanks :D


Source.

  • 07.31.2011 1:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Great_Pretender
Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
-TGP-

Posted by: S Squared4
Please we need help. Than Anchrnos is going to go yell at us saying we need to clean up our act when it is probably 5 people. He wants to nuke us because of he is stereotyping that the whole Flood are a bunch of trolls that attack boards. He is blaming us for not moderating ourselves when we are constantly clicking the report button, while it is his fault for not controlling his board (Flamers going to flame).

It helps to prove your point with a link. Besides Achronos said himself he didn't want to nuke the flood, he said that to try and get y'all to straighten up.

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Posted by: S Squared4
it was going on for an hour before a brave mod came in and stepped up.

That's pretty fast, considering none of the mods sync their watches and take shifts.

  • 07.31.2011 1:22 PM PDT

Posted by: Great_Pretender
Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
-TGP-

Posted by: S Squared4
I'm not blaming the mods. I'm blaming Anchronos doesn't have enough mods and enough control.

You realize the mods aren't on a leash or a schedule right?

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Posted by: Xplode441
Posted by: S Squared4
I'm not blaming the mods. I'm blaming Anchronos doesn't have enough mods and enough control.

You realize the mods aren't on a leash or a schedule right?


Yes, he does realize that. I'm speaking for him, he sees the same things I always see in The Flood. He said more mods, not OMGZ THE MODS NEED TOO ALW4YZ B3 0Nz.

  • 07.31.2011 1:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
We need mods with more expressive bravado so we can tell when they do their job.
I would gladly fill that role.

  • 07.31.2011 2:09 PM PDT


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Posted by: S Squared4
it was going on for an hour before a brave mod came in and stepped up.

That's pretty fast, considering none of the mods sync their watches and take shifts.

I'm not blaming the mods. I'm blaming Anchronos doesn't have enough mods and enough control.

Adding more mods won't caue more mod activity. They're all on at different times, and there's not much anyone can do about it. The report button does work, it's just not as fast as most people think.

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  • 07.31.2011 2:21 PM PDT

Posted by: Changsta inc
Racism isn't wrong if it's funny.

Good God in heaven.
These threads need to stop. Seriously. Shut the -blam!- up.

"Nobody cares. We know the Flood Forum is a cesspool. Just don't go there. Be the difference you wish to see."

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Posted by: squeak52
There are several threads like this on the first page. Both moderators and Achronos have given their point of view. There's no reason to start up a new one.

And your "mini-mod" idea I presume will not work, seeing how people will be abusive with this power if we give it out to everyone with no bans in "x" amount of days. It's like massing a product, there will be defects.

When the web-team feels there needs to be more moderators, more will be chosen.


That's well said. =P

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How not to be seen, don't stand up.

Of course the Flood has problems, just look at the hot topics.

  • 07.31.2011 3:52 PM PDT
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How not to be seen, don't stand up.

More mods in different timezones would help however...

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Can we PM people acting rude and offensive? Or spam like Tl;dr or Umad? Or are those minor offenses ?
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Can we PM people acting rude and offensive? Or spam like Tl;dr or Umad? Or are those minor offenses ?
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  • 07.31.2011 4:03 PM PDT

In jedem system der Macht gibt es korruption.

Det vore klokt att tro att det inte finns några undantag.

Damn it I wasn't there -.- I do pretty much the same when The Flood gets assaulted by like three or four troll shock site posters. Not pretty.. Had to go round loads of threads checking links with no volume in an incognito window then report them safe or not, those who had safe links had a go at me for it.

Still, everyone on The Flood reports them which in turn alerts mods. There are no need for more mods at the minute it's just a couple seem to be absent.

EDIT: Also Achronos doesn't stereotype us (Flood) he just knows it's pretty much the problem child of Bnet so he isn't going to be sweet with us.

[Edited on 07.31.2011 4:12 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2011 4:08 PM PDT

Posted by: Changsta inc
Racism isn't wrong if it's funny.

Goddamn I can't wait until 8/4. Hopefully we'll get some good topics.

  • 07.31.2011 4:11 PM PDT

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I imagine, should said PM's all be focused around the same kind of situation and not loads of 'Oh Hai' messages, we can send one for every couple of threads? I reported a guy to a mod a while back but didn't want to go nuts with PMs because it has to annoy you?

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Posted by: Nannerpus
Goddamn I can't wait until 8/4. Hopefully we'll get some good topics.


You mean the VidDoc?

That will be something fresh.

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