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Subject: Possible fix to "Shock Site Spammers"

"I don't care if it's God's own anti-Son of a -blam!- Machine or a giant hula-hoop!"

I have been contemplating ideas to help cut down on these people for quite some time.

The gist of the situation is, someone has an account and posts shock site links in the forums. That person is banned by the moderators. That same person quickly makes a second account, and within 24 hours they are posting even more links to these websites.

This is a never-ending circle that currently has no solution, other than to ban the person as soon as a 'Forum Ninja' sees the post.

What my idea does is, it cuts off those spammers from the 'link' function. This is similar as to how you cannot start a new thread for 24 hours after your account has been to created.

New accounts simply won't have access to the [url=] or [url] functionality. You can then unlock this function by either, "x" amount of days, or hidden account trust rating (Like that of the Title and Prefixes), or a combination of the two.

This way, new users can still come to ask questions and participate, but the people who abuse the forums with links, will be fewer and further between.

Thoughts, concerns?

EDIT: Something else to throw out there, what if only the [url=]text[/url] is to be hidden from the new users who don't met the perquisites? This added with the idea of having URL shortening devices count as extended characters might just do the trick. That way, with new users, you know exactly where you're clicking, and they are still allowed to link.

[Edited on 08.01.2011 9:07 AM PDT]

  • 07.31.2011 3:24 PM PDT

When I grow up I want to be bitter and spiteful.

"i liked the reality where everything was on fire better"
-legato on remedial chaos theory

Why do you strive to disturb the natural balance of things?

  • 07.31.2011 3:25 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.

Or people can be smart and not click the links.

  • 07.31.2011 3:26 PM PDT
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Trying something once will increace your chances of success, because you tried it. Try someting twice, and your chances increase yet again - seeing as you've done it. Try something a few thousand times, and your chances of success is exponentially increased; this increase would likely provide success every time

My only main concern is legitimate new users. Granted, it's not hard copy-pasting a URL in the bar, but try telling the regulars that. The vast majority of people won't even touch a URL if it isn't linked, and there's very few people that will help them link it.

I do like the concept though, I'm just more of a perpetually updated url blacklist kind of guy.

  • 07.31.2011 3:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
Or people can be smart and not click the links.


However, its hard to ignore a big wall of spam.

  • 07.31.2011 3:28 PM PDT

"I don't care if it's God's own anti-Son of a -blam!- Machine or a giant hula-hoop!"

Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
Why do you strive to disturb the natural balance of things?

Why do humans weed their gardens?
Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
Or people can be smart and not click the links.

I wish this were the case. But if it were, countless threads wouldn't be made saying, "There aren't enough mods", "Forum Ninja's are so inconsistent" and "The Flood is running wild!"
I may be paraphrasing, but you get the idea.

  • 07.31.2011 3:30 PM PDT

There was a small discussion of this in
The mods seem Lazy recently that we had around page 6.

Maybe something like what we said, adding a small wait period to post, around an hour or so, that way they will have a waiting period before they can post.

  • 07.31.2011 3:32 PM PDT

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This. If your worried that the link might take you somewhere where your eye's will loose their virginity, then either don't click it or read the comments in the post.
Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
Or people can be smart and not click the links.

  • 07.31.2011 3:32 PM PDT

When I grow up I want to be bitter and spiteful.

"i liked the reality where everything was on fire better"
-legato on remedial chaos theory

Posted by: squeak52
Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
Why do you strive to disturb the natural balance of things?

Why do humans weed their gardens?
Because they know of nothing better!

If we were to "fix" spammers, then the forums themselves would be reduced to a horrifying state of anomie. I can understand your desire to reduce spam, but you must consider the repercussions of such an action! There is a natural order to things!

  • 07.31.2011 3:33 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.


Posted by: stepheng0228

Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
Or people can be smart and not click the links.


However, its hard to ignore a big wall of spam.


No, it isn't. You can click page down or page up, us the roller on your mouse, or us the bar on the side of your browser to scroll away from the post.

OH MY GOD, I CAN CONTROL MY SITE EXPERIENCE BY BYPASSING WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE!?!? ? CAN IT REALLY WORK????

[Edited on 07.31.2011 3:37 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2011 3:33 PM PDT
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Trying something once will increace your chances of success, because you tried it. Try someting twice, and your chances increase yet again - seeing as you've done it. Try something a few thousand times, and your chances of success is exponentially increased; this increase would likely provide success every time

Just like most virginities, you aren't worried of losing it until it's already gone.

Just sayin'.
Posted by: Halo biggest fan
This. If your worried that the link might take you somewhere where your eye's will loose their virginity, then either don't click it or read the comments in the post.
Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
Or people can be smart and not click the links.
Edit:Posted by: xHC Lone Wolfx
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Achronos wasn't going to do anything about it as it's not Bungies job to protect you from the internet.
You got linkage?


[Edited on 07.31.2011 3:37 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2011 3:36 PM PDT

"I don't care if it's God's own anti-Son of a -blam!- Machine or a giant hula-hoop!"

Posted by: wallawalla1992
There was a small discussion of this in
The mods seem Lazy recently that we had around page 6.

Maybe something like what we said, adding a small wait period to post, around an hour or so, that way they will have a waiting period before they can post.

That could be a possible additive. But I can see new users being frustrated not being able to post.
Posted by: Rokit
My only main concern is legitimate new users. Granted, it's not hard copy-pasting a URL in the bar, but try telling the regulars that. The vast majority of people won't even touch a URL if it isn't linked, and there's very few people that will help them link it.

I do like the concept though, I'm just more of a perpetually updated url blacklist kind of guy.

My hope is that, as you may have seen, other users who do have the ability to link will 'fix' their URL's.

This has been shown when someone posts a 'broken' link, someone will reply with a fully operational hyperlink that other users can click.

  • 07.31.2011 3:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Big Black Bear
What are we supposed to be discussing here?


"Nothing in the 'Verse can stop me."

Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
Or people can be smart and not click the links.

As well as report the posts and not bump the thread they're in.

  • 07.31.2011 3:41 PM PDT

Really? Seems like it would be quite easy.
Posted by: stepheng0228

However, its hard to ignore a big wall of spam.

  • 07.31.2011 3:41 PM PDT
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They should just ban all the users who replied to the thread. If the spam is in an existing thread ban the ones who quoted the troll. The best way to get rid of trolls and spammers is to ignore them. Until users can figure that out, ban them.

  • 07.31.2011 3:45 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.


Posted by: nightspark
They should just ban all the users who replied to the thread. If the spam is in an existing thread ban the ones who quoted the troll. The best way to get rid of trolls and spammers is to ignore them. Until users can figure that out, ban them.


Marry me.

  • 07.31.2011 3:46 PM PDT
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It shouldn't be easy or hard because I shouldn't hath to do it in the first place.


Posted by: All of humanity
Really? Seems like it would be quite easy.
Posted by: stepheng0228

However, its hard to ignore a big wall of spam.

  • 07.31.2011 3:50 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.


Posted by: stepheng0228
It shouldn't be easy or hard because I shouldn't hath to do it in the first place.


Posted by: All of humanity
Really? Seems like it would be quite easy.
Posted by: stepheng0228

However, its hard to ignore a big wall of spam.


You shouldn't have to ignore anything?

Do you purposefully go into threads that are most likely to annoy you or something?

  • 07.31.2011 3:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Top_Gun_2021

Posted by: stepheng0228
It shouldn't be easy or hard because I shouldn't hath to do it in the first place.


Posted by: All of humanity
Really? Seems like it would be quite easy.
Posted by: stepheng0228

However, its hard to ignore a big wall of spam.


You shouldn't have to ignore anything?

Do you purposefully go into threads that are most likely to annoy you or something?



I go into a thread for a discussion not for this:

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  • 07.31.2011 4:01 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.


Oh no, someone posting something that can easily be forgotten about by ignoring it, woe is me.

[Edited on 07.31.2011 4:05 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2011 4:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Changsta inc
Racism isn't wrong if it's funny.

Nah, it's just easier to check the links.

  • 07.31.2011 4:05 PM PDT

Since you cannot do good to all, you are to pay special attention to those who, by the accidents of time, or place, or circumstances, are brought into closer connection with you.
Augustine of Hippo

I can't prove it, but I can say it.
Stephen Colbert

i am not shawn from youtube, I created this username because I thought it was an unique name but if I could change it I would since it did not belong to me originally

I can't find the proper youtube video, to link to this topic but it's from Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, and while HArold is in Jail the black man says that everything in the Universe tends to fall in it's place.

  • 07.31.2011 4:05 PM PDT

You must be new to the internet.
Posted by: stepheng0228
I go into a thread for a discussion not for this:

  • 07.31.2011 4:08 PM PDT

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