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Posted by: Vercetti24
Posted by: jakemaidment
if you look back through my posts, especially my first ones, I have referenced all my claims to in-game experience and wiki pages, saying I haven't referenced anything is blind.
that 'magic' you are talking about, the mass effect fields, if you looked at the MEwiki page I linked the first time I mentioned it, mass effect fields allow the user (the reaper) to manipulate speed and mass in anything in the field, this is how the mass relays work, they alter the mass and speed of the craft to travel at ultra-fast speeds.
I'll save you some time: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_effect_fields
sums it up in the first few lines.
the mass effect field and the kinetic barrier around the reaper blocks all mass, during the final cutscene of ME most of the rounds fired on sovereign impacted or dissipated on the shield, the mass effect field would have deflected some of the rounds at least.
"Thinsg that go really slow actually bypass kinetic barriers too, but how cna I expect you to know that?"
I am fully aware of that, as I have mentioned, to you in fact, multiple times, you've even given me stats on speeds and powers of different projectiles and none of them are travelling slow enough to bypass the shield.
as for sovereigns shield, it would be ridiculous and pathetic if the shield was inches away, as any explosion would cause heat damage to the hull.
as you mentioned, yes, the covenant lasers would have the best chance at hurting a reaper, they travel fast enough and with such little mass to practically bypass the mass effect field (presumably) and I'd say could do the most damage to the kinetic shield, while some heat possibly passing through (due to the speed).
a plasma torpedo however, has alot of mass so would be most affected by the mass effect field and the kinetic barrier.
as for my link to the wiki page on heat. I was implying you should read about how heat travels and acts in different environments before you go saying heat can travel without mass (as the mass gets rejected by the kinetic barrier)
sending the wiki page wasn't to make me seem smart, it was to show you I actually read and can reference my claims.
I still don't see your references.
on a side note: you say this is hilarious yet you don't know why you're writing this, that's contradiction, if you were loving this so much you'd keep it going...
Weird how the latest stuff I remember was or made up (example: mass effect fields suddendly acting as shielding despite them never doing it in canon, just in your imagination) or speculation (example age of the Reapers) or just fanwank.
Please show me any source that mass effect fields act as shileding like you claim they do because they don't, they just manipulate wight of the Reaper so they can fly in atmosphere. Kinetic barriers act exactly like shields except they only stop kinetic energy.
You somehow imagined that mass effect fields are used to slow down projectiles which does not happen.
I never claimed they will, was just pointing it out.
Yet in ME1 he has it mere inches away from his hull, it is not a good idea seeing how kinetic barriers work, in fact it's plain retarded, but he still did had his shields like that.
The Point Defense laser and Energy Projectors wouldn't just have a "chance" to bypass kinetic barriers, THEY TRAVEL WITH THE SPEED OF LIGHT, THEY HAVE NO MASS.
Because I'm noth bothering to post them until you post a argument that I don't have classified as classic MEtard -blam!-.
I find your posts hilarious, but I am asking myself why am I responding to them while I know it's futile. Which I explain to myslf that I am bored and are in the mood for this.
Posted by: jakemaidment
Posted by: fsabran
Posted by: jakemaidment
one rebelion only grunt rebelion Epic Fail
sorry, my bad, I meant age of conflict http://www.halopedian.com/Age_of_Conflict
the 39th age of conflict was the grunt rebellion, this is before the great schism, you know, where the covenant broke apart in civil war?yes but remenber the covenant was stable until an life changing discovery was made and even then if it wasn't for truth betry your allies police the covenant would have won the war. really if masster chief took five minutes longer to find regret humanity would have been exterminated
my point was that the covenant can barely keep themselves together, they were having civil wars LONG before they found humanity, I think the grunt rebellion was before they discovered humanity...
so that's 39 ages of conflict.
then a covenant shattering civil war when they found the halos
reapers "are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness"
seriously though, straight from the start, which do you fear more?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvrIFIjTGt0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPEYImyvKBY
sovereign or truth?
sovereign was "the first fictional character to make your life seem so insignificant"
and he had the firepower to back it up
ut the thing is, this is a VS battle, the polictical situation is not relevant. And you're overreacting, the Covenant worked fine and did destroy every rebellion, that's until the Sangheili left. The Great Schism was casued by an idiotic decison from Truth, it wouldn't have happend without that.
You claim to be a Halo fanboy, yet the way you wank the Reapers is just like ME fantards do.
The point of the Prophets was never to be intimidating in the first place, it's the Covenant you fear, not their leaders, it's even how the Covenant was build, the Sangheili did the fighting and Prophets were the brains.
And I would fear what Truth stands for more then what Sovereign stands for, but I guess its what you you fear more personally...
sovereign was "the first fictional character to make your life seem so insignificant"
Maybe for you, but hey, that's what opinions are for, just make sure to not state them as facts.
"and he had the firepower to back it up"
In universe? Definetly. Compared to other Sci-Fi? Nope.
Now just a small test, you agree that the Reapers would be slaughtered by both the Imperium of Man and Forerunner Ecumene, right?
in order:
about the mass effect fields being used as secondary shielding, I posted a link to the MEwiki, here's a snippet for you "Mass effect fields are also essential in the creation of shields to protect against enemy fire on the ground, and protect starships in planetary orbit or during space battles."
I'd advise reading the rest.
do you have any sources or references that a reapers kinetic shield is inches away from it's hull?
now would be a good time to whip out on of those sources you say you have plenty of.
the covenant laser DO have mass, they need it to carry the heat. I think you'll find it is most likely superheated gas, and before you say, YES, gases DO have mass...
all I was trying to say about their collapsing civilisation is that they often have petty squabbles among each other, like the constant elites vs brutes rivalry.
in a battle this will hinder their co-ordination, that was the covenants downfall in the human-covenant war.
the WHOLE point of truths message was to scare the humans, nothing more.
on your last point, I don't have a clue what the Imperium of Man is and I'm not about to make blind guesses on either side, as for forerunners, they would eventually beat the reapers, I really don't know how long it'd take, whether it's hours or weeks, but with metarch and above AI's and their ability to craft superweapons with ease, it'd be stupid to think they can't win, if worst comes to worst, they'll find SOME way of killing absolutely everything and simply reseeding the galaxy.
as far as I can compare, reaper shielding and forerunner shielding use the same mechanics, but I know for a fact forerunner alloy is damn-near indestrcutable