Posted by: Fin5434p
So, you have a chip on your shoulder, nice to know I guess, you'll be approaching the discussion from the "decide which side I want to win then fudge the numbers till it does" angle then?
Could you please post the source on these numbers?
Mass Effect: Revelation and Mass Effect: Ascension. Can't recall page numbers all to well, I simply read and record information. If you have a source that says something contradictory to mine, I would be interested.
Reference please.
Halo: The Flood. Like I said though, the page numbers escape me.
Well they are certainly better protection against a wide range of threats. If you assume absolute lowest-end numbers for the Covenant (ie: ignore each and every referance to Covenant warships setting worlds ablaze, or blasting city sized asteroids, and assume the supercarrier can barely move its own mass etc) then I'm sure you could construct an argument for that being the case.
It doesn't matter how much destruction they cause, that is simply brute force. It doesn't have to be as technologically advanced to be 'effective', a prime example is your own Halo universe's "Brutes" or Jiralhanae. But rest assured, with greater technology comes greater possibility. Mass Effect cores can accelerate anything with mass to close to the speed of light.
While a weakness it is such a minor one as to be negligible, it's a bit like saying a Knight in full plate has thin eyeslits to see through, so can be taken down at 500 paces with a well thrown coin.
Reapers are machines, if I were a Covenant ship's commanding officer, I wouldn't risk taking on a Reaper for that simple fact. Because they are machines. They think like machines. They can crunch numbers that we cannot even fathom, even more so considering the fact they are at least 37 million years old.
An army that bases its attack patterns on reliance of having to 'drop one's defenses to attack', even briefly, would stand next to zero percent chance of defeating the Reapers.
You may struggle as we know pretty much nothing about it, except the round must have been massive and made of some supermaterial.
I do not think you understand how mass effect fields work. In order to propel an object at superluminal speeds its mass must be decreased, meaning it was impossible that the round was very large at all. Not to mention mass accelerator rounds are designed to send 'kinetic' energy through an object, not blast straight through it like the primitive tech of the Halo universe.
Erm, no. Not by a long shot, the GBE of a planet like Klendagon is pretty huge, you are not going to be cracking planets with that one. Kill everything on the surface, sure.
See above.
Given the size of the rift, the round itself was probably much larger than the Reaper, I very much doubt it took the shot to the face...
See above.
For all we know that was a one-off superweapon. And we know nothing about the race that built it, or how they died.
And, likewise, for all we know, that could've been their commonplace infantry weaponry. Do you see what I did there? It is never said what it is, leaving it open to being taken advantage of by either party. This single argument I can use against everyone here.
And considering the fact that they were fighting the Reapers, and lost, I think its safe to assume they were swept aside, like so many others, by the Reapers, in one of their many genocidal galaxy wide rituals.
Their warships are capable of breaking worlds, their fleets can destroy entire star systems, they are way out of everyone we are discussing's league, best to leave them out of the discussion entirely.
Considering the fact that the Covenant derive their technology, vehicles, weapons, beliefs from the Forerunner, I would think it ignorant to leave them out of the discussion.
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PS: To further back up my argument against the Covenant, here is an excerpt of Sovereign's Codex Entry demonstrating his power.
The attack on Eden Prime demonstrated Sovereign's ability to generate mass effect fields powerful enough to land on a planetary surface. This implies it has a massive element zero core, and the ability to generate staggering amounts of power.
We may never know how truly strong the Reapers are, and that alone makes them more of a threat than the aptly recognizable Covenant.
[Edited on 09.18.2011 6:16 PM PDT]