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Subject: Rank =/= Nothing in Halo3 anymore

It's alright.


Posted by: WjB456

Posted by: tritonxl34
The ranking system was always flawed. Say what you will, but there is a time in every Halo 3 players life cycle where they plateau. This happened to me at level 38. By design Halo 3 never allowed players that played for a long expanse of time to ever get past this cap. I started a new account and was level 25 by my 10th game. Yet playing over 3,000 games never raised me above a 38.

Now if you say I am complaining about my skill level I'm not. I'm simply saying that there was a design in place that in my eyes was flawed for veteran players.


What are you talking about? I started playing in 2007 and reached 50 easily. There's no such thing as rank lock.


I never said anything about a "rank lock". What I was saying is theres a point where it becomes incredibly hard to rank up. Like I said, it's easy if you play ranked and ranked up quick. But it's incredibly easy for me to lose a rank, and I have one match after match in lone wolf without reaching higher than 38.

[Edited on 08.01.2011 2:22 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Frasier Crane
I'm not making excuses. I never claimed to be good. I have never played any colonel better than me though.


Top 1% Overall Player for H3 on Halocharts
50 Team Slayer Gen and BTB 5 Star


Posted by: tritonxl34
I never said anything about a "rank lock". What I was saying is theres a point where it becomes incredibly hard to rank up.


Most refer to this as being "rank locked".

Like I said, it's easy if you play ranked and ranked up quick. But it's incredibly easy for me to lose a rank, and I have one match after match in lone wolf without reaching higher than 38.

You're not reaching higher than a 38 simply because you aren't good enough. If you were good enough or even better the system would realize this because of your consistent wins, and rank you up. But you don't consistently win so you don't rank up. The system has determined that's where you belong, there's nothing wrong with it.

  • 08.01.2011 2:30 PM PDT

It's alright.



You're not reaching higher than a 38 simply because you aren't good enough. If you were good enough or even better the system would realize this because of your consistent wins, and rank you up. But you don't consistently win so you don't rank up. The system has determined that's where you belong, there's nothing wrong with it.


Yes, your right. In a perfect system that should be the case. I should be "rank locked" because I am "not good enough" to go beyond that point. But if that was really the case, then how can that system justify ONE loss as a cause for deranking. Also how can that same "perfect" system give consistent quitters with LESS experience points a higher chance to rank up for their same win/lose streak?

I agree that the system will judge your skill accurately, but I have beaten plenty of 50's, and I have lost to plenty of lower ranked players. But the system you think Halo: 3 has is non existent. The only way Bungie could ever cope with the flaws was by banning players, by banning EXP progressions, or banning them from matchmaking all together.

[Edited on 08.01.2011 2:41 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2011 2:37 PM PDT

He never said "perfect system"

  • 08.01.2011 2:43 PM PDT

It's alright.


Posted by: Vital Goo
He never said "perfect system"


Right. I said that what he was saying could only be valid in a perfect system. You added a lot to the post.

  • 08.01.2011 2:45 PM PDT

Blah blah blah

All I saw in your post was "Herp a Derp Herp Derp"

  • 08.01.2011 2:53 PM PDT

Blah blah blah


Posted by: tritonxl34

Posted by: WjB456

Posted by: tritonxl34
The ranking system was always flawed. Say what you will, but there is a time in every Halo 3 players life cycle where they plateau. This happened to me at level 38. By design Halo 3 never allowed players that played for a long expanse of time to ever get past this cap. I started a new account and was level 25 by my 10th game. Yet playing over 3,000 games never raised me above a 38.

Now if you say I am complaining about my skill level I'm not. I'm simply saying that there was a design in place that in my eyes was flawed for veteran players.


What are you talking about? I started playing in 2007 and reached 50 easily. There's no such thing as rank lock.


I never said anything about a "rank lock". What I was saying is theres a point where it becomes incredibly hard to rank up. Like I said, it's easy if you play ranked and ranked up quick. But it's incredibly easy for me to lose a rank, and I have one match after match in lone wolf without reaching higher than 38.

No

  • 08.01.2011 2:54 PM PDT

I had the same problem in lone wolves, I got to level 39 and got rank locked, but then I found that can still get skill levels beyond 39 in different ranked game-types.

The easiest are team slayer and team doubles.

[Edited on 08.01.2011 2:56 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Vital GooWhenever I read your posts all I can think is "dumbass"

  • 08.01.2011 3:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Alights
what

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After reading through this entire thread, I've formed an opinion.
MissPrissy is sad because she can't win, and feels the need to complain about the ranking system on B.net.
Vital is under the age of 12, as he still uses the classic line "40 year old living in your moms basement".

Fill me in if I've missed something.

[Edited on 08.01.2011 4:16 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2011 4:10 PM PDT

Im so so pretty and...uhm your not. ^_^


Posted by: meagsIZbeast

Posted by: WjB456
I bet you can't post at least 5 games of you being cheated. I can almost guarantee you've never even been cheated.

Someone pulling a horrible host or you lagging out =/= cheating


Edit-Was Playing under Captainsoggey
Stats

Games-

Game 1 Afker and quiter

Game 2 host booted

General that couldnt stop a warthog from spawn killing

told directly by Trojen man he was a booster

game connected and froze several time

These are the games, try and tell me I am not right in what I have said.

  • 08.01.2011 4:28 PM PDT

Im so so pretty and...uhm your not. ^_^


Posted by: Vital Goo
I had the same problem in lone wolves, I got to level 39 and got rank locked, but then I found that can still get skill levels beyond 39 in different ranked game-types.

The easiest are team slayer and team doubles.


I have found that the only way to really rank up fast in Lone Wolfs is if you come in first second or third every time And the people you beat are above your stats.

So if you even lose one time to a sgt. lt. cpt. major then all that time put in to ranking up is gone.

Also being booted or lagging out is like a death sentence.

  • 08.01.2011 4:30 PM PDT


Posted by: Vital Goo

Posted by: Galactic Pixel

Posted by: Vital Goo

Posted by: WjB456
I bet you can't post at least 5 games of you being cheated. I can almost guarantee you've never even been cheated.

Someone pulling a horrible host or you lagging out =/= cheating


Alwright, if you shot me with 2 rockets (direct hit) and it did not even drop my shields, and I shot you with 1 pistol bullet
and on impact that bullet peirced you armor and killed you instantly, what would you say I just did?


You would have cheated, there is no doubt about that. I played an CTF game where the enemy team had rockets, energy swords, gravity hammers, shotguns, snipers, spartan lasers,you name it! I played it on Pit Stop, my team had ARs and Pistols. My team quit and I ended up getting one flag captured and they had 5. They won, I lost.


Finaly someone has some experience in getting cheated out.


What you guys are taking about is modding, the single rarest form of cheating left on XboxLIVE. There is absolutely no way what you described happens on any regular basis.


I have 11,000 games of Halo 3 and I have run into a single modder, who was banned before the night was over.

99% of what you think is cheating is your own ignorance and inability to recognize the behavior of online gaming.

  • 08.01.2011 4:42 PM PDT


Posted by: Trust me

Posted by: Vital Goo

Posted by: Galactic Pixel

Posted by: Vital Goo

Posted by: WjB456
I bet you can't post at least 5 games of you being cheated. I can almost guarantee you've never even been cheated.

Someone pulling a horrible host or you lagging out =/= cheating


Alwright, if you shot me with 2 rockets (direct hit) and it did not even drop my shields, and I shot you with 1 pistol bullet
and on impact that bullet peirced you armor and killed you instantly, what would you say I just did?


You would have cheated, there is no doubt about that. I played an CTF game where the enemy team had rockets, energy swords, gravity hammers, shotguns, snipers, spartan lasers,you name it! I played it on Pit Stop, my team had ARs and Pistols. My team quit and I ended up getting one flag captured and they had 5. They won, I lost.


Finaly someone has some experience in getting cheated out.


What you guys are taking about is modding, the single rarest form of cheating left on XboxLIVE. There is absolutely no way what you described happens on any regular basis.


I have 11,000 games of Halo 3 and I have run into a single modder, who was banned before the night was over.

99% of what you think is cheating is your own ignorance and inability to recognize the behavior of online gaming.


Correct.

  • 08.01.2011 4:50 PM PDT


Posted by: tritonxl34
The ranking system was always flawed. Say what you will, but there is a time in every Halo 3 players life cycle where they plateau. This happened to me at level 38. By design Halo 3 never allowed players that played for a long expanse of time to ever get past this cap. I started a new account and was level 25 by my 10th game. Yet playing over 3,000 games never raised me above a 38.

Now if you say I am complaining about my skill level I'm not. I'm simply saying that there was a design in place that in my eyes was flawed for veteran players.


I "plateaud" at level 43 in Team Throwback, then I got better and reached level 50 and that was in a playlist where you get host booted every other game at high levels.

Yes, you it does become harder to rank up after many games, but it will not keep you from ranking up if you actually got better. You just didn't get better.

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Posted by: MissPrissyXbox

Posted by: meagsIZbeast

Posted by: WjB456
I bet you can't post at least 5 games of you being cheated. I can almost guarantee you've never even been cheated.

Someone pulling a horrible host or you lagging out =/= cheating


Edit-Was Playing under Captainsoggey
Stats

Games-

Game 1 Afker and quiter

Game 2 host booted

General that couldnt stop a warthog from spawn killing

told directly by Trojen man he was a booster

game connected and froze several time

These are the games, try and tell me I am not right in what I have said.
What I learned from these links.
1. You are bad at halo
2. What you count as cheating is actually just deranking and boosting

  • 08.01.2011 5:41 PM PDT


Posted by: MissPrissyXbox

Posted by: meagsIZbeast

Posted by: WjB456
I bet you can't post at least 5 games of you being cheated. I can almost guarantee you've never even been cheated.

Someone pulling a horrible host or you lagging out =/= cheating


Edit-Was Playing under Captainsoggey
Stats

Games-

Game 1 Afker and quiter

Game 2 host booted

General that couldnt stop a warthog from spawn killing

told directly by Trojen man he was a booster

game connected and froze several time

These are the games, try and tell me I am not right in what I have said.
I hope you get banned for boosting. Go back to Reach, Retard. The matches are laggy as hell these days. Doesn't look like you were cheated.

  • 08.01.2011 6:17 PM PDT

Im so so pretty and...uhm your not. ^_^


Posted by: SpreadBridge74

Posted by: MissPrissyXbox

Posted by: meagsIZbeast

Posted by: WjB456
I bet you can't post at least 5 games of you being cheated. I can almost guarantee you've never even been cheated.

Someone pulling a horrible host or you lagging out =/= cheating


Edit-Was Playing under Captainsoggey
Stats

Games-

Game 1 Afker and quiter

Game 2 host booted

General that couldnt stop a warthog from spawn killing

told directly by Trojen man he was a booster

game connected and froze several time

These are the games, try and tell me I am not right in what I have said.
I hope you get banned for boosting. Go back to Reach, Retard. The matches are laggy as hell these days. Doesn't look like you were cheated.


Glad you pieces of trash dont work for bungie.

  • 08.01.2011 6:18 PM PDT

Im so so pretty and...uhm your not. ^_^


Posted by: SpreadBridge74

Posted by: MissPrissyXbox

Posted by: meagsIZbeast

Posted by: WjB456
I bet you can't post at least 5 games of you being cheated. I can almost guarantee you've never even been cheated.

Someone pulling a horrible host or you lagging out =/= cheating


Edit-Was Playing under Captainsoggey
Stats

Games-

Game 1 Afker and quiter

Game 2 host booted

General that couldnt stop a warthog from spawn killing

told directly by Trojen man he was a booster

game connected and froze several time

These are the games, try and tell me I am not right in what I have said.
I hope you get banned for boosting. Go back to Reach, Retard. The matches are laggy as hell these days. Doesn't look like you were cheated.


I like how this guy has less matches played than me and wants to talk -blam!-.

LOL

Bad kids these days, worse than COD players

  • 08.01.2011 6:21 PM PDT


Posted by: MissPrissyXbox

Posted by: SpreadBridge74

Posted by: MissPrissyXbox

Posted by: meagsIZbeast

Posted by: WjB456
I bet you can't post at least 5 games of you being cheated. I can almost guarantee you've never even been cheated.

Someone pulling a horrible host or you lagging out =/= cheating


Edit-Was Playing under Captainsoggey
Stats

Games-

Game 1 Afker and quiter

Game 2 host booted

General that couldnt stop a warthog from spawn killing

told directly by Trojen man he was a booster

game connected and froze several time

These are the games, try and tell me I am not right in what I have said.
I hope you get banned for boosting. Go back to Reach, Retard. The matches are laggy as hell these days. Doesn't look like you were cheated.


Glad you pieces of trash dont work for bungie.
You are beyond ignorant. What you're doing (boosting) will get you banned. That's not allowed in Halo 3. I had some crazy lag when I came back to play Halo 3. I thought I was cheated, too. You're just getting hit with lag.

  • 08.01.2011 6:22 PM PDT


Posted by: MissPrissyXbox

Posted by: SpreadBridge74

Posted by: MissPrissyXbox

Posted by: meagsIZbeast

Posted by: WjB456
I bet you can't post at least 5 games of you being cheated. I can almost guarantee you've never even been cheated.

Someone pulling a horrible host or you lagging out =/= cheating


Edit-Was Playing under Captainsoggey
Stats

Games-

Game 1 Afker and quiter

Game 2 host booted

General that couldnt stop a warthog from spawn killing

told directly by Trojen man he was a booster

game connected and froze several time

These are the games, try and tell me I am not right in what I have said.
I hope you get banned for boosting. Go back to Reach, Retard. The matches are laggy as hell these days. Doesn't look like you were cheated.


I like how this guy has less matches played than me and wants to talk -blam!-.

LOL

Bad kids these days, worse than COD players
Go back to Reach, dumbass. I was playing alone.

  • 08.01.2011 6:23 PM PDT

Im so so pretty and...uhm your not. ^_^


Posted by: SpreadBridge74
[/quote]Go back to Reach, dumbass. I was playing alone.


u mad I am better than you at Reach and H3

You know whats sad people in here think I am boosting my rank up in H3.

Did anyone bother looking at the ranks of the other profiles? You cant boost off them, Duh, dumb dumb dumb.

So is it possible that I am doing something else?

  • 08.01.2011 6:28 PM PDT
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I play games for gameplay, not silly gimmicks

H3 MM warrior

Reach S7, 8 and 9 arena warrior.

H4 MM legend

LOL the ignorance in this thread is astounding.

None of you have been cheated in any other way than boosters, which isnt really cheating. I looked at every link, every post, and every retarded comment from everyone ITT, and I can fully surmise that none of you, aside from WjB have any clue what you are talking about when it comes to cheaters.

Along with that note that cheaters only cheat in parties of 3 and 4. IF YOU ARE SEARCHING SOLO OR IN 2S YOU ARE NOT BEING CHEATED.

  • 08.01.2011 6:32 PM PDT

Im so so pretty and...uhm your not. ^_^


Posted by: meagsIZbeast
LOL the ignorance in this thread is astounding.

None of you have been cheated in any other way than boosters, which isnt really cheating. I looked at every link, every post, and every retarded comment from everyone ITT, and I can fully surmise that none of you, aside from WjB have any clue what you are talking about when it comes to cheaters.

Along with that note that cheaters only cheat in parties of 3 and 4. IF YOU ARE SEARCHING SOLO OR IN 2S YOU ARE NOT BEING CHEATED.


you are the ignorant idiot that thinks you know everything.

When I searched in a party of 3 I still got Afkers, host booters, and people who were de-ranking.

I guess those are not cheaters right they just play the game differently right.

Dumb ass

  • 08.01.2011 6:36 PM PDT