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Subject: Halo 4: what u want or are expecting from this Game


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
When they deserve it.

It's plain to see where the discussion will go from this point. So I'll keep it simple, and hopefully save some people their time (Which it won't): remember the golden rule.

  • 08.01.2011 3:37 PM PDT


Posted by: gruntyII7
This forum is called BUNGIE universe. Halo 4 has absolutely nothing to do with Bungie, so get this trash out of here. I want the abomination that is halo 4 to be canceled and never released.


lol, Bungie fanboy.
Bungie said that we can talk about Halo 4 here.

  • 08.01.2011 3:38 PM PDT


Posted by: gruntyII7
This forum is called BUNGIE universe. Halo 4 has absolutely nothing to do with Bungie, so get this trash out of here. I want the abomination that is halo 4 to be canceled and never released.
You are right. When the Bungie.net remake comes through I'm sure that will be apparent.

  • 08.01.2011 3:38 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
The difference between Grey and the OP is that while both do have errors, Grey isn't a complete moron. He doesn't misspell entire words. The mere fact you only made 4 corrections is testament to that.

What about the OP makes him a moron? I fail to see any indication in his writing that makes him stupid, he's simply someone interested in fostering a discussion about an upcoming game that he is obviously interested in. What's wrong with that? Yes, he has spelling errors, but so does everyone. You may not having spelling errors, but I'd bet money you have grammatical errors. I have them too. People who write proficiently for a living have errors, that's why we have proof reading. Does that make them morons?

Elitist. Troll. You're sole role in this forum is to be condescending to others. That's plainly evident.


It was like that way before I got here, before my previous account even. It's like that because outside of the Community Forum and Private Groups this is a place where it's members like having standards.

Vicious cycle. It's good to know that people at least consciously perpetrate it.

What sort of standards? I think you should let the moderators determine what is or isn't up to the forum standards. I believe the only standard people need to abide by in order to have a discussion in this forum is to be able to get their point across. Unless you have some sort of condition that makes it exceedingly difficult for you to understand the OP, I think that he is able to get his point across. It may mean you can't skim read his post, but the capacity for understanding is there.

I like to think of it is this light: what if the OP is not a native English speaker? Are we going to preclude him from joining in the discussion because his typing is not up to your standards of English proficiency? That sounds elitist to me.


What moderators? They barely ever come here and it sucks when idiot users like ImmortalJoshua make stupid threads like "Spartan-II vs T-Rex", which was a real topic he made by the way. Threads like his and the multiple "vs" threads aren't what should be discussed here. Books like Cryptum and other elements of the Halo universe, like the ruins on Delta Halo, have lots of discussion potential.

But instead, we get multiple "What's going to happen in Halo 4?!?" threads. Nobody knows but 343. I see the pinned threads and see what this board once was. Sadly, that's gone.

As for the OP not being a native English speaker, that's an excuse for not using spell check?

  • 08.01.2011 3:40 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra

What moderators? They barely ever come here and it sucks when idiot users like ImmortalJoshua make stupid threads like "Spartan-II vs T-Rex", which was a real topic he made by the way. Threads like his and the multiple "vs" threads aren't what should be discussed here. Books like Cryptum and other elements of the Halo universe, like the ruins on Delta Halo, have lots of discussion potential.

But instead, we get multiple "What's going to happen in Halo 4?!?" threads. Nobody knows but 343. I see the pinned threads and see what this board once was. Sadly, that's gone.

As for the OP not being a native English speaker, that's an excuse for not using spell check?

Have you considered approaching Bungie and expressing an interest in moderating the Bungie Universe forum? There are certainly more proactive things you can do instead of being cynical and insulting.

Obviously, you care about the quality of discussion, otherwise you wouldn't be so passionate about the topic content. So why do you go out of your way to foster a negative atmosphere for discussion to occur?

Sure, people make a bunch of "omg what's gonna happen" threads, but that's because they're looking for an answer much like you, myself, and others have. It's much more productive then to continue fostering stimulating discussion instead of becoming disillusioned and raging on people who don't know better (IE: How I lost my Exalted title).

I'm not sure how experienced you are in using things like spell check on the Internet, MS Word, etc. but you should know that it's essentially useless in actually correcting peoples' grammar and spelling.

Some people aren't proficient typists, I teach a typing class and see people in highschool, who have been raised on the internet, that can't type faster than 10 WPM. It's difficult, lengthy, etc. I try to take that into consideration. Poor spelling and grammar doesn't need to bother you unless you allow it to, so long as you can understand what is being said.

  • 08.01.2011 3:47 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Hysterical Joker
Have you considered approaching Bungie and expressing an interest in moderating the Bungie Universe forum? There are certainly more proactive things you can do instead of being cynical and insulting.

Obviously, you care about the quality of discussion, otherwise you wouldn't be so passionate about the topic content. So why do you go out of your way to foster a negative atmosphere for discussion to occur?


I've mentioned it to Duardo in a plea asking for more moderation here and when Skibur mentioned forum specific mods in the Community, I said that would work great for the Universe.

It's gotten so bad here, me, grey, and various other members made our own forum to discuss this stuff. It shouldn't be that way.

  • 08.01.2011 3:50 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Hysterical Joker
Have you considered approaching Bungie and expressing an interest in moderating the Bungie Universe forum? There are certainly more proactive things you can do instead of being cynical and insulting.

Obviously, you care about the quality of discussion, otherwise you wouldn't be so passionate about the topic content. So why do you go out of your way to foster a negative atmosphere for discussion to occur?


I've mentioned it to Duardo in a plea asking for more moderation here and when Skibur mentioned forum specific mods in the Community, I said that would work great for the Universe.

It's gotten so bad here, me, grey, and various other members made our own forum to discuss this stuff. It shouldn't be that way.


That's the nature of a public forum. People will intrude, troll, want to be a part of it, etc. It comes with the territory, if that's something you don't want to deal with then making a private group is the perfect solution. Of course, bemoaning how awful people have made the forum will not attract the right type of people to your group. You will attract the people who think they're better than everyone else and that just fosters ego-tripping instead of meaningful discussion.

I think BU can be changed for the better, people just have to be committed to guiding the misled and misunderstood. People also have to be committed to spending the considerable amount of time and energy required to pave the way into a new day of intelligent discussion that also has tolerance for those who make mistakes when they're just trying to be a part of the group.

  • 08.01.2011 3:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: DecepticonCobra

What moderators? They barely ever come here and it sucks when idiot users like ImmortalJoshua make stupid threads like "Spartan-II vs T-Rex", which was a real topic he made by the way. Threads like his and the multiple "vs" threads aren't what should be discussed here. Books like Cryptum and other elements of the Halo universe, like the ruins on Delta Halo, have lots of discussion potential.

But instead, we get multiple "What's going to happen in Halo 4?!?" threads. Nobody knows but 343. I see the pinned threads and see what this board once was. Sadly, that's gone.

As for the OP not being a native English speaker, that's an excuse for not using spell check?

Have you considered approaching Bungie and expressing an interest in moderating the Bungie Universe forum?


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, they come here like twice a month and lock PAGES of junk. and the only reason they do that is because we spam the community forum.

SO we are pretty much alone, hence cobra and i taking a more active role, hence us being "the biggest haters of the forum/internet".

  • 08.01.2011 3:57 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: DecepticonCobra

What moderators? They barely ever come here and it sucks when idiot users like ImmortalJoshua make stupid threads like "Spartan-II vs T-Rex", which was a real topic he made by the way. Threads like his and the multiple "vs" threads aren't what should be discussed here. Books like Cryptum and other elements of the Halo universe, like the ruins on Delta Halo, have lots of discussion potential.

But instead, we get multiple "What's going to happen in Halo 4?!?" threads. Nobody knows but 343. I see the pinned threads and see what this board once was. Sadly, that's gone.

As for the OP not being a native English speaker, that's an excuse for not using spell check?

Have you considered approaching Bungie and expressing an interest in moderating the Bungie Universe forum?


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, they come here like twice a month and lock PAGES of junk. and the only reason they do that is because we spam the community forum.

SO we are pretty much alone, hence cobra and i taking a more active role, hence us being "the biggest haters of the forum/internet".
Why does an active role need to be a negative presence? If you don't mind, I'd be interested in hearing your thought process behind how that will bring about the changes in the forum you'd like to see.

  • 08.01.2011 3:59 PM PDT

We are creators and destroyers, We forge with one hand and obliterate with the other, We craft worlds unseen and make better were improvment is due. We are a rare breed, for We are Forgers. Not just Forgers of steal and earth, but Forgers of Legacy...

Im pretty sure I made this fourm for Halo 4 not my grammar.(can u read this DeceptionCobra or is it to illegible.)

  • 08.01.2011 4:03 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

A forum specific moderator would be a start. As much of a shocker it may be, I can be a nice guy, charming even. If I could moderate, I'd have a simple system.

If a thread doesn't contribute to discussing the story elements, canon, or expanded universe of Bungie's games the threads get locked.

[Edited on 08.01.2011 4:05 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2011 4:04 PM PDT

We are creators and destroyers, We forge with one hand and obliterate with the other, We craft worlds unseen and make better were improvment is due. We are a rare breed, for We are Forgers. Not just Forgers of steal and earth, but Forgers of Legacy...

a negative presence is not needed in this forum, if u have a complaint bring u with me and i can see what i can do...

  • 08.01.2011 4:05 PM PDT

We are creators and destroyers, We forge with one hand and obliterate with the other, We craft worlds unseen and make better were improvment is due. We are a rare breed, for We are Forgers. Not just Forgers of steal and earth, but Forgers of Legacy...

then start talking about HALO 4 and not my grammar... dumba**(deceptionCobra)

[Edited on 08.01.2011 4:08 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2011 4:07 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
A forum specific moderator would be a start. As much of a shocker it may be, I can be a nice guy, charming even. If I could moderate, I'd have a simple system.

If a thread doesn't contribute to discussing the story elements, canon, or expanded universe of Bungie's games the threads get locked.


In other words, Forum cop/ Moderator wannabe.

  • 08.01.2011 4:09 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
A forum specific moderator would be a start. As much of a shocker it may be, I can be a nice guy, charming even. If I could moderate, I'd have a simple system.

If a thread doesn't contribute to discussing the story elements, canon, or expanded universe of Bungie's games the threads get locked.

You may want to consider the notion that you wouldn't get to follow your own system, but Bungie's. Just a thought, but what is Bungie's stance?

  • 08.01.2011 4:09 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.


Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
A forum specific moderator would be a start. As much of a shocker it may be, I can be a nice guy, charming even. If I could moderate, I'd have a simple system.

If a thread doesn't contribute to discussing the story elements, canon, or expanded universe of Bungie's games the threads get locked.

You may want to consider the notion that you wouldn't get to follow your own system, but Bungie's. Just a thought, but what is Bungie's stance?


I believe they differ to the mods, one mod may lock a thread while another wouldn't. I'd follow their system, off-topic threads get locked. I doubt I'd ban very many people unless they really screw up.

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
In other words, Forum cop/ Moderator wannabe.


I know you're still pissed everyone turned against you the other day for not having sources to back up your claims, but do get over it.

  • 08.01.2011 4:11 PM PDT

We are creators and destroyers, We forge with one hand and obliterate with the other, We craft worlds unseen and make better were improvment is due. We are a rare breed, for We are Forgers. Not just Forgers of steal and earth, but Forgers of Legacy...

ya bungies stance...

  • 08.01.2011 4:11 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra

Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
A forum specific moderator would be a start. As much of a shocker it may be, I can be a nice guy, charming even. If I could moderate, I'd have a simple system.

If a thread doesn't contribute to discussing the story elements, canon, or expanded universe of Bungie's games the threads get locked.

You may want to consider the notion that you wouldn't get to follow your own system, but Bungie's. Just a thought, but what is Bungie's stance?


I believe they differ to the mods, one mod may lock a thread while another wouldn't. I'd follow their system, off-topic threads get locked. I doubt I'd ban very many people unless they really screw up.

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
In other words, Forum cop/ Moderator wannabe.


I know you're still pissed everyone turned against you the other day for not having sources to back up your claims, but do get over it.


Okay, if you say so.

  • 08.01.2011 4:14 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra

Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
A forum specific moderator would be a start. As much of a shocker it may be, I can be a nice guy, charming even. If I could moderate, I'd have a simple system.

If a thread doesn't contribute to discussing the story elements, canon, or expanded universe of Bungie's games the threads get locked.

You may want to consider the notion that you wouldn't get to follow your own system, but Bungie's. Just a thought, but what is Bungie's stance?


I believe they differ to the mods, one mod may lock a thread while another wouldn't. I'd follow their system, off-topic threads get locked. I doubt I'd ban very many people unless they really screw up.

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
In other words, Forum cop/ Moderator wannabe.


I know you're still pissed everyone turned against you the other day for not having sources to back up your claims, but do get over it.

That's good to hear. Now you just need to keep be positive and proactive. Bungie tends to shy away from having moderators that don't have a proven track record in being able to play nice with even the most intolerable members; they are asking you to represent their company in an online medium after all.

Anywho, people insulting and badgering Grey and Deception are just as much at fault. It's a vicious cycle, how about we all agree to stop perpetrating it? Or if not publicly, then how about we stop being rude to each other?

  • 08.01.2011 4:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: DecepticonCobra

Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
A forum specific moderator would be a start. As much of a shocker it may be, I can be a nice guy, charming even. If I could moderate, I'd have a simple system.

If a thread doesn't contribute to discussing the story elements, canon, or expanded universe of Bungie's games the threads get locked.

You may want to consider the notion that you wouldn't get to follow your own system, but Bungie's. Just a thought, but what is Bungie's stance?


I believe they differ to the mods, one mod may lock a thread while another wouldn't. I'd follow their system, off-topic threads get locked. I doubt I'd ban very many people unless they really screw up.

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
In other words, Forum cop/ Moderator wannabe.


I know you're still pissed everyone turned against you the other day for not having sources to back up your claims, but do get over it.

That's good to hear. Now you just need to keep be positive and proactive. Bungie tends to shy away from having moderators that don't have a proven track record in being able to play nice with even the most intolerable members; they are asking you to represent their company in an online medium after all.

Anywho, people insulting and badgering Grey and Deception are just as much at fault. It's a vicious cycle, how about we all agree to stop perpetrating it? Or if not publicly, then how about we stop being rude to each other?


Keep it clean.

  • 08.01.2011 4:20 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Hysterical Joker
That's good to hear. Now you just need to keep be positive and proactive. Bungie tends to shy away from having moderators that don't have a proven track record in being able to play nice with even the most intolerable members; they are asking you to represent their company in an online medium after all.


Given that duty, I'd shape up. When you have no power and you're trying to keep this place civilized and up to standards, it grates on your nerves. Perhaps I am too hostile at times, but a lot of the questions people ask can be answered with a Google search. I may not like the Halo wikis, but they give a decent overview of the Halo series.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
A forum specific moderator would be a start. As much of a shocker it may be, I can be a nice guy, charming even. If I could moderate, I'd have a simple system.

If a thread doesn't contribute to discussing the story elements, canon, or expanded universe of Bungie's games the threads get locked.


In other words, Forum cop/ Moderator wannabe.


seriously ruby stop. YOU are the one that starts trouble here, if you don't start stuff with cobra or i then we don't mess with you.


you just look for trouble.

  • 08.01.2011 4:21 PM PDT

We are creators and destroyers, We forge with one hand and obliterate with the other, We craft worlds unseen and make better were improvment is due. We are a rare breed, for We are Forgers. Not just Forgers of steal and earth, but Forgers of Legacy...

As creator of this topic, i do ask to keep it clean and to stop bickering over such silly things, for we are a community.

  • 08.01.2011 4:27 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Hysterical Joker
That's good to hear. Now you just need to keep be positive and proactive. Bungie tends to shy away from having moderators that don't have a proven track record in being able to play nice with even the most intolerable members; they are asking you to represent their company in an online medium after all.


Given that duty, I'd shape up. When you have no power and you're trying to keep this place civilized and up to standards, it grates on your nerves. Perhaps I am too hostile at times, but a lot of the questions people ask can be answered with a Google search. I may not like the Halo wikis, but they give a decent overview of the Halo series.

Just speaking from experience, people don't want to use people who haven't proven themselves or shown that they can do the task required. They want someone with proven character. Otherwise it just becomes a thing of "Well, I'll do it after X happens," which isn't something you can put your weight on.

Of course it grates on your nerves, it grated on mine. I got banned and quit for 7 months. Now that I've had some changes, I can come back and see things in a different light and from a distanced perspective.

Some questions can be answered with a simple Google search, but it's about how you present that to someone that makes all the difference and determines their reaction to you.

  • 08.01.2011 4:30 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
A forum specific moderator would be a start. As much of a shocker it may be, I can be a nice guy, charming even. If I could moderate, I'd have a simple system.

If a thread doesn't contribute to discussing the story elements, canon, or expanded universe of Bungie's games the threads get locked.


In other words, Forum cop/ Moderator wannabe.


seriously ruby stop. YOU are the one that starts trouble here, if you don't start stuff with cobra or i then we don't mess with you.


you just look for trouble.


Why are you so mean? So hostile?

[Edited on 08.01.2011 4:34 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2011 4:34 PM PDT

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