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Subject: is Halo a very real and possible future?

We are creators and destroyers, We forge with one hand and obliterate with the other, We craft worlds unseen and make better were improvment is due. We are a rare breed, for We are Forgers. Not just Forgers of steal and earth, but Forgers of Legacy...

In regards to the halos evolution of the human race seems more realistic and more acceptable as a future we could have. There could very well be aliens and we could very well have war with them. I also think one day we might have a second earth like reach. give me ur opinion...

  • 08.01.2011 4:57 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Hang on, let me just fetch the TARDIS...

  • 08.01.2011 4:58 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

But i very much doubt we had once a spacefaring Empire long ago.

  • 08.01.2011 4:59 PM PDT

The world more and more is taking cues from fiction in dictating what our future can be. Do I think we can have realistic AI? Yes. Maybe we could colonize a planet after we've traveled for hundreds of years on a self-sustainable colony ship. Our weapons are definitely advancing to the point of MJOLNIR and UNSC weaponry. We may even get super soldiers.

I don't think we'll get naval space warfare or FTL travel, though.

  • 08.01.2011 5:00 PM PDT

We are creators and destroyers, We forge with one hand and obliterate with the other, We craft worlds unseen and make better were improvment is due. We are a rare breed, for We are Forgers. Not just Forgers of steal and earth, but Forgers of Legacy...

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  • 08.01.2011 5:05 PM PDT

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With the rate we are destroying this planet? I doubt it, most probably we will disappear in the next 100-200 years due to pollution and natural disasters.

  • 08.01.2011 5:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: marckasprzyk
In regards to the halos evolution of the human race seems more realistic and more acceptable as a future we could have. There could very well be aliens and we could very well have war with them. I also think one day we might have a second earth like reach. give me ur opinion...
Of course we could very well have aliens, but could we really have 7 different alien species, each of which (excluding drones and hunters) are bipedal and near human sized, and all of which are extremely easily anthropomorphized, having extremely similar intelligence and pschology (sociological factors notwithstanding)? No, I really don't think that we would ever face anything like the Covenant. The only truly alien aliens would be the Hunters and Buggers, everything else is far too similar to humanity to be believable. The other two are probably correct, yet incredibly vague so it's no surprise.

[Edited on 08.01.2011 7:01 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2011 7:00 PM PDT

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Ummm heck no, if anything in 500 years into the future, our body armor, won't be composed of simple metal alloys.
I don't believe in ftl travel.
I do belive in the augmentations of the spartan II's.
I'm sure our weaponry won't be utilizing primitive chemical propellents, and might instead use coil gun technology, or superior and more efficient chemical propellents.
I don't believe several thousand ton vehicles will be able to operate in space like fighter jets. (Yes there are quite a few examples in the halo novels)
Our infrantry will be much more advanced and ect.

  • 08.01.2011 7:53 PM PDT


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Posted by: marckasprzyk
In regards to the halos evolution of the human race seems more realistic and more acceptable as a future we could have. There could very well be aliens and we could very well have war with them. I also think one day we might have a second earth like reach. give me ur opinion...
Of course we could very well have aliens, but could we really have 7 different alien species, each of which (excluding drones and hunters) are bipedal and near human sized, and all of which are extremely easily anthropomorphized, having extremely similar intelligence and pschology (sociological factors notwithstanding)? No, I really don't think that we would ever face anything like the Covenant. The only truly alien aliens would be the Hunters and Buggers, everything else is far too similar to humanity to be believable. The other two are probably correct, yet incredibly vague so it's no surprise.

i would say its the other way around. if we encounter aliens they will most likely be similar to us in many ways. it would be very difficult for species like buggers and hunters to technologically advance considering their physical features. actually i think it would be impossible for hunters considering their worms and the covenant put them in those bodies

  • 08.01.2011 9:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: JFMK2

Posted by: marckasprzyk
In regards to the halos evolution of the human race seems more realistic and more acceptable as a future we could have. There could very well be aliens and we could very well have war with them. I also think one day we might have a second earth like reach. give me ur opinion...
Of course we could very well have aliens, but could we really have 7 different alien species, each of which (excluding drones and hunters) are bipedal and near human sized, and all of which are extremely easily anthropomorphized, having extremely similar intelligence and pschology (sociological factors notwithstanding)? No, I really don't think that we would ever face anything like the Covenant. The only truly alien aliens would be the Hunters and Buggers, everything else is far too similar to humanity to be believable. The other two are probably correct, yet incredibly vague so it's no surprise.

i would say its the other way around. if we encounter aliens they will most likely be similar to us in many ways. it would be very difficult for species like buggers and hunters to technologically advance considering their physical features. actually i think it would be impossible for hunters considering their worms and the covenant put them in those bodies


you do understand the the lekgolo were on the same technological level as humanity before they "joined" the covenant right?


not to mention they can form ANYTHING they want out of the worms and they beat the elites in nearly every ground engagement in the first encounter.

  • 08.01.2011 9:50 PM PDT

By the 26th century, our technology should be relatively close to what the human civilization looks like in the Halo universe. Including Faster than light travel, Biological augmetations, shield technology, and colonizing other habitible planets, perhaps even terraforming them.

To learn more, read this
http://www.angelfire.com/sd/occultic/civili.html

  • 08.01.2011 10:03 PM PDT


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The world more and more is taking cues from fiction in dictating what our future can be. Do I think we can have realistic AI? Yes. Maybe we could colonize a planet after we've traveled for hundreds of years on a self-sustainable colony ship. Our weapons are definitely advancing to the point of MJOLNIR and UNSC weaponry. We may even get super soldiers.

I don't think we'll get naval space warfare or FTL travel, though.



I wouldn't underestimate Human Ingenuity. Anything we imagine is a possibility.
We will have FTL. We will colonize other Worlds. We will live on.

  • 08.01.2011 10:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: marckasprzyk
In regards to the halos evolution of the human race seems more realistic and more acceptable as a future we could have. There could very well be aliens and we could very well have war with them. I also think one day we might have a second earth like reach. give me ur opinion...
Of course we could very well have aliens, but could we really have 7 different alien species, each of which (excluding drones and hunters) are bipedal and near human sized, and all of which are extremely easily anthropomorphized, having extremely similar intelligence and pschology (sociological factors notwithstanding)? No, I really don't think that we would ever face anything like the Covenant. The only truly alien aliens would be the Hunters and Buggers, everything else is far too similar to humanity to be believable. The other two are probably correct, yet incredibly vague so it's no surprise.

i would say its the other way around. if we encounter aliens they will most likely be similar to us in many ways. it would be very difficult for species like buggers and hunters to technologically advance considering their physical features. actually i think it would be impossible for hunters considering their worms and the covenant put them in those bodies
So, a bipedal structure, a similar (or near identical) facial composition, human intelligence, and a mindset, mentality and morality essentially identical to that of humanity, is synonymous with technological advancement? I really hope not to offend, but I highly disagree. Perhaps they're synonymous with cultural advancement, or at least what we would interpret to be culture ++(see last paragraph), obviously, but definitely not technological advancements. Why would a species have to have the same psychology and physiology as humanity to be able to think and harness the power of technology?

They wouldn't. Learning the principles of science and the application of them does not require a morality entirely compatible (perhaps identical) with our own, it does not require the self-awareness, empathy, cognition, consciousness, and other psychological traits that mark humans as unique from the rest of the animal kingdom (these traits are very distinct from raw intelligence, mind you), it doesn't require two arms, two legs, two eyes and a mouth below those two eyes, and it doesn't require near-human proportions and size. What it does require, is some measure of dexterity, some form of social intelligence, and the intelligence to put two and two toghether (figuratively speaking, that is). Hunters and buggers have these in spades.

We have no idea what ecosystems they evolved on, and as such, you can't assert that the same traits that would prevail on our planet, would hold on theirs. As such, you certainly cannot say that sapience (or our entirely subjective definition thereof) goes hand in hand with technology, on every planet, on every ecosystem, just because it did with us. We are a very small sample size amidst the seas of infinity. To clairify, the word "sapience" has very little to do with intelligence, and for once wikipedia has done a good job defining it, especially the last paragraph of this section.

++Edit: mind you, what I meant by "what we would interpret to be a culture" was a culture that shares a very similar evolution, history, composition, organization and what not with our own culture, a good example being the Covenant. This kind of culture would only arise as the result of a species having a similar psychology to our own, ergo, a civilization populated by beings with alien psychology would have nothing that we would be able to recognize as a culture.



As a side note, I'd like this post to be read very carefully, as there are some things that can be easily misinterpreted if skimmed over.

[Edited on 08.02.2011 12:17 AM PDT]

  • 08.01.2011 10:46 PM PDT

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Hello my name is Joey, if that wasn't obvious enough :P, and my Gamertag on Xbox 360 is Martian V. Btw, I'm a guy. I play Halo Reach a lot and I love it so far. As of right now, I love my CQB and really hope it'll be in Halo 4 and so on. If Halo 4 has armory. If not I shall has a sadfaic. :c

I guess anything is possible, but in my opinion; unlikely.

  • 08.01.2011 11:09 PM PDT

Yeah I'd say its really possible that we advance that far in 500 years. Look how far our technology has come in 10? heck, I'd be willing to venture we could possibly be even more technologically advanced than humans in halo.

  • 08.01.2011 11:46 PM PDT

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Racism isn't wrong if it's funny.

I suppose.

  • 08.01.2011 11:48 PM PDT

In some aspects, but in others no.

  • 08.01.2011 11:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darth Pulsar
By the 26th century, our technology should be relatively close to what the human civilization looks like in the Halo universe. Including Faster than light travel, Biological augmetations, shield technology, and colonizing other habitible planets, perhaps even terraforming them.

To learn more, read this
http://www.angelfire.com/sd/occultic/civili.html






you make sence but then again what about nuclear technology? what if we dont figure out how to harness it better? we all blow up! what happenes if we do harness it better? we go beyond what the halo universe has shown us!

  • 08.02.2011 12:02 AM PDT

see now the optomist in me would like to say yes we are an extremely talented specie's when it come's to advancements look at medical advance's alone we have made many great stride's on many different levels from fighting virus's to bodily implants/prosthetics. but.....

The realist in me say's no we are a selfish and destructive specie's we have only one planet to live on and despite warnings of the damage we are doing to it nothing's changed 9/10 people are still to lazy to recycle properly. or do something to help our planet as far as a pattern that i can see humanity's advancemants usually follow during or after major conflict's just look back a mere 65 years ago to WW2 and look at the tech we have and take for granted now. we are the reapers of our own demise my only hope is that we dont screw the planet up completely and life can start again when the earth's healed is that the next sentient race looks after it better then we have.

  • 08.02.2011 6:29 AM PDT

Oops. I think I just lost your mind.

Slipspace. That is all.

  • 08.02.2011 6:54 AM PDT
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I'd say we'd gone further for some, and fell short of others.

  • 08.02.2011 7:20 AM PDT

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We'd also be able to develop advanced optical camoflage
It's already being developed.
I find the probability of encountering a bipedal alien species very low.

  • 08.02.2011 9:45 AM PDT
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I killed him in the face!

I think that a war with Aliens is very possible.. but Halo's, NOPE.

  • 08.02.2011 10:17 AM PDT

I believe we will be space-faring by then, but I doubt we'll still have solid projectile weapons, or if we do, they'll be magnetic or something. That was the one thing I never got about halo was that the weapons are totally attainable even today. some modern weaponry even exceeds that of Halo.

I did a report about orbital elevators and found that NASA has been looking into this very seriously and believes that the technology needed (strong enough cable[carbon nanotubes]) would be available in roughly 50 years. so who knows, we may see a space tether by then.

  • 08.02.2011 10:36 AM PDT
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"but you already knew that, I mean, how couldn't you?

Only when no Human brick is left atop another, shall we be satisfied with your destruction.

Hmm, lets see:

United humanity (well, mostly): likely, innies also likely...

Space exploration: Very likely.

Slipspace: Very unlikely.

Aliens!: Very likely.

Bipedal aliens: Likely (it's an efficient body type for a tool-user)

Aliens with a recognisable social structure: Likely, at least in starfaring races, basic cooperation is a requirement for civilisation. That limits the way the society can develop.

War with aliens: Unlikely, what would we fight over? Religion/morality/political beliefs are probably the likliest cause to be fair.

All about the same 'level' of technology: Very Unlikely.

Ancient weapons capable of cleansing galaxies: Very Unlikely.

The Flood: Unlikely as a biological entity. (Quite plausible as a machine equivalent, 'berserker probe' von Neumann devices.)

Still using bullets: I want to say unlikely, but frankly kinetics are better weapons than lasers, and bullets are dirt cheap.

Energy Shields: Unlikely.

Plasma rifles et al: Unlikely. (Inefficient, pointless against armour, no range)

  • 08.02.2011 3:00 PM PDT