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Subject: Does Cole Protocol apply to people? (I'll explain)

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  • 08.01.2011 6:26 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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The Covies never really took prisoners to ask for the coordinates.

  • 08.01.2011 6:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
The Covies never really took prisoners to ask for the coordinates.
They get the coordinates from the navigation console.

Yes it does. You cannot make a direct jump to Earth.

  • 08.01.2011 6:30 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

They've only really captured and taken prisoners near the wars end, first Halsey, then Keyes, and then Colonel Ackerson, but they took Ackerson for a different reason.

  • 08.01.2011 6:31 PM PDT

Oh hey there

Posted by: petarded2
It's a metaphor for the 07s' lack of identity. too old to be newfa­g, yet too new to be oldfa­g, we wander b.net in search of a home, forever trying to be something we are not.

It's a good question. Here is the wording of the Cole Protocol. It says nothing about needing to kill yourself of others, it only talks about computers and ships. But I think that it would be difficult to just "know" the coordinates of something in space. Maybe I just don't understand it well enough but it seems to me that most people wouldn't know coordinates like that off the top of their heads.

  • 08.01.2011 6:31 PM PDT

I am invisible, understand, simply because people refuse to see me.
--Ralph Ellison

In the story The Return in Evolutions, the Shipmaster recalls how he captured a human and tortured him into talking and along with a broken nav box was able to find some outer colony (forget the name now).

So maybe there would be some reason to kill yourself?

There's also the proto-gravemind in The Flood trying to get the location of Earth from Keyes' memories. If that was a concern, then maybe you'd want to kill yourself for that too.

I can see why it might make sense, but it's sort of pushing it. It isn't mentioned anywhere throughout the canon that anyone ever killed themselves to uphold the Cole Protocol.

  • 08.01.2011 6:40 PM PDT

We're never what we invent or intend.

I'd imagine that they might have tortured the system of the colony out of him, or its general location in relation to others that the Covenant knew of.

And slipspace coords are likely ridiculously long and complicated, somewhere in the hundreds of digits, so no. Nobody is remembering that.

  • 08.01.2011 6:51 PM PDT

Oh hey there

Posted by: petarded2
It's a metaphor for the 07s' lack of identity. too old to be newfa­g, yet too new to be oldfa­g, we wander b.net in search of a home, forever trying to be something we are not.

Coordinates in space are based off of your relative position in space and the direction you need to travel. You need to have a great understanding of where you are and the stars around your position. It is highly unlikely that anyone can know coordinates just by being asked. You're going to have to change your story.

[Edited on 08.01.2011 7:00 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2011 7:00 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

It is implied I think.

Click to view inside the book, and then scroll to the last Adjunct near the end.

  • 08.01.2011 7:19 PM PDT

My Grandfather was a Desert Ranger, my Father was a Veteran Ranger in the NCR. My father was killed by Caesar's Legion and they took my Brother. It's now my responsibility to uphold the mantle of the Rangers and avenge my Father and find my Brother.

How about the Covenant board the ship but the guy destroys the navigation console then the Elites are going to interrogate his parents so he shoots them?

  • 08.01.2011 7:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
It is implied I think.

Click to view inside the book, and then scroll to the last Adjunct near the end.


Mm, nice find. I did not recall that the Cole Protocol included personnel.

  • 08.01.2011 10:05 PM PDT

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  • 08.01.2011 10:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan1065
It's a good question. Here is the wording of the Cole Protocol. It says nothing about needing to kill yourself of others, it only talks about computers and ships. But I think that it would be difficult to just "know" the coordinates of something in space. Maybe I just don't understand it well enough but it seems to me that most people wouldn't know coordinates like that off the top of their heads.
Could be in the Neural Interfaces. To quote Halsey, "Anything stored electronically can be retrieved electronically"... and the Brain does use electrical signals, and is hardwired into a neat little computer, so...

But you're right. Slipspace co-ordinates, for memory, have a ridiculous amounts of numbers in them. Who knows if anyone could store things in their Interface?

  • 08.02.2011 4:19 AM PDT