Flood's and Universe's Warhammer 40k fanatic and the one who knows much about it.
I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.
Posted by: Omega Ultimus
But, to be fair, didn't the Forerunnners have millions of world and battleships. And doesn't the Flood just de-evolve back into a bacterium and slowly evolve once again the living beings of the Warhammer universe (can't stop the Necrons, though)
...including the base station of the Imperial survey team who had been investigating the planet's complex of pyramid structures, and attempting to determine the reason for the apparently artificially caused lack of any living organisms, right down to bacterial and viral levels, on the planet.
Necrons seem to able to erase even on such small scale as bacterial. Going to such 'mode' wouldn't work for flood that well, especially since necrons are made of living metal and cant be infected, unless flood has ability to infect machines.
Alone, also Imperium of Man has more then million planets. With quick basic math, the average amount of ships defending sectors is about 63 or 62 ships, with most of the ships being escorts and cruisers. Commanding and higher inviduals will have for most of the time larger ships, such as grand cruisers and battleships in use.
If we take Calixis sector as an 'ordinary' sector, the amount of planets and objects in it would be about 198. If we assume that imperium holds over million worlds, ( let's assume that the amount is 1,1 million), there would be around 5555 sectors if I'm correct. So on, the amount of of ships from those defending battlefleets would be high as 349965 ships. Then, we could go and add battlefleets of segmentums, the numbers would rise more.
That people might understand in more fun way about the strength of imperium's fleet's might, watch this video.
Sure Forerunner's have more ships then IoM, but wank of having trillions of ships in single fleet sounds unbelievable. If we go and add ships of orks, necrons, adeptus mechanicus, eldar, dark eldar, tyranids, chaos, tau empire and others, the amount of vessels would rise easily over few millions. Then we need to remember how warp would affect these fights, and how haloverse's side is unable to understand it's nature.
If I'll go to uberwank mode, then I'd remind that Tzeentch knows everything, every though, every scrap of knowledge due the nature of his(?) realm. So on, the technology used by precursors is known and understood by 40k and can be defeated. But, I'll stay away from gods and such since they ruin all the fun in universe versus universe fights. Also, chaos gods cannot affect the reality in ways they might want, only warp is such place where their influence is greater then normal. Even still, they're able to corrupt certain things in reality quite easily.
Posted by: Omega Ultimus
Yet, it still looks like a hell of a lot of fun. Sorry if I'm totally off, I just find Warhammer insanely interesting!
It is. The hobby is alone great fun, so are the video games about 40k ( Space marine is released in few months, I recommend to check it out ) and the lore is among the best I've seen. If you someday see Games workshop store or place where 40k is played, trying a demo can be great fun. Also, you're not off at all under my judgement :3
If you wish to know more about the lore which is awesome, then check this page out.
Posted by: ExcellentSix
Hell Orks alone could solo both Unsc, covies and flood.
Here I have to disagree. Orks could overwhelm and defeat UNSC and Covenant with few proper WAAAGHs, but not flood. Going on against flood would most likely result huge infection spree and new forms to be created for flood. The numbers of orks could be greater for orks, but since the way how flood works would make them look more like negative point then positive.
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
The Imperium's numbers far outclass both, possibly combined, but at least the UNSC and Covenant would kill the -blam!- out of as many as they could before they eventually succumbed.
Question: how effective would a barrage of plasma rifle fire or a needle supercombine be against a SM?
The first part of the quote is true. While UNSC poses little threat, Covenant's fleets are able to deal quite nice damage to Imperium's.
I assume that if plasma isn't able to easily penetrate space marine's power armor, a barrage would only damage them. I'd assume that a hit in a good spot such as helmet would kill them quite effectively.
About supercombine, I believe it could also kill marines quite nicely. Though, my knowledge about these weapon's effects in lore is quite limited, so I can't give proper answer.
[Edited on 08.03.2011 3:18 AM PDT]