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What was the real reason to halo 2 Multiplayer being removed? Why would Bungie remove such a game that had an amazing success and impact on Xbox Live? This crushes everyone's heart :(. And I truly miss this -blam!- game with a passion ! :'(

  • 08.05.2011 10:36 AM PDT

No offense but a Ninja should put a sticky up there stating Bungie had nothing to do with LIVE getting shut down, for all xbox1 games. We get a lot of these, it was Microsoft and it was a business decision that included updating their entire gaming system.

  • 08.05.2011 11:08 AM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1
No offense but a Ninja should put a sticky up there stating Bungie had nothing to do with LIVE getting shut down, for all xbox1 games. We get a lot of these, it was Microsoft and it was a business decision that included updating their entire gaming system.


Just like he said.

  • 08.05.2011 11:29 AM PDT
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halo 2 still the best game in the series. long live halo 2.

Dam, I miss the old days playing halo 2 with my old brothers in arms. Thank you my old friends for giving me this account, I shall continue our legacy.


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Posted by: Grumpy1
No offense but a Ninja should put a sticky up there stating Bungie had nothing to do with LIVE getting shut down, for all xbox1 games. We get a lot of these, it was Microsoft and it was a business decision that included updating their entire gaming system.


Just like he said.

Yep, we should take our anger out on Microsoft.

  • 08.05.2011 11:42 AM PDT

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I never got to enjoy the awesomeness that was Halo 2 Matchmaking :(.

  • 08.05.2011 11:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: Grumpy1
No offense but a Ninja should put a sticky up there stating Bungie had nothing to do with LIVE getting shut down, for all xbox1 games. We get a lot of these, it was Microsoft and it was a business decision that included updating their entire gaming system.


Thanks for clearing this up for me. This is why I asked the question to get a definite answer.

But why would it be done? Halo 2 gave Microsoft most of their money from Xbox games they didn't make any profit outta of it and probably lost profit from shutting down H2 from Xbox Live. Was it cause halo2 couldn't handle the 360 when it came out? If that was the case Microsoft could've told Bungie to fix that up if it was even possible :(.

  • 08.05.2011 1:55 PM PDT


Posted by: x GriMJaW x
But why would it be done? Halo 2 gave Microsoft most of their money from Xbox games they didn't make any profit outta of it and probably lost profit from shutting down H2 from Xbox Live. Was it cause halo2 couldn't handle the 360 when it came out? If that was the case Microsoft could've told Bungie to fix that up if it was even possible :(.
I'll have to think about that.

  • 08.05.2011 2:14 PM PDT

It's most likely to reduce server costs a little bit, as the old Xbox Live probably had different authentication/matchmaking master servers. But then, I'm pretty sure that's not too much money, since the game servers themselves are P2P.

Or maybe I'm exaggerating, and it's not due to greedy corporatism but really to make XBL better by, for example, allowing us to have more than 100 friends... oh wait, we still can't.

Ironically, if my memory is correct, one of the reason that was given in the beginning of XBL to explain why you had to pay for it was that it was helping server fees: that way, even if not many people were playing an old game anymore the servers would stay up. It's still true to an extent: EA/Activision often shut down PS3/PC master servers of old games, but can't on XBL, because of how it works. Sadly, it seems like not everyone has the same definition of "old".

  • 08.05.2011 2:44 PM PDT

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They were losing money.

  • 08.05.2011 3:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Grumpy1
No offense but a Ninja should put a sticky up there stating Bungie had nothing to do with LIVE getting shut down, for all xbox1 games. We get a lot of these, it was Microsoft and it was a business decision that included updating their entire gaming system.


Thanks for clearing this up for me. This is why I asked the question to get a definite answer.

But why would it be done? Halo 2 gave Microsoft most of their money from Xbox games they didn't make any profit outta of it and probably lost profit from shutting down H2 from Xbox Live. Was it cause halo2 couldn't handle the 360 when it came out? If that was the case Microsoft could've told Bungie to fix that up if it was even possible :(.


bungie was too busy with halo 3, starting odst and halo reach to figure out a way to make halo 2 run live on the 360 im guessing.. Halo 2 was retired at a good point and you can still play on live if you have the proper software on your computer

  • 08.05.2011 4:36 PM PDT


Posted by: x GriMJaW x

Posted by: Grumpy1
No offense but a Ninja should put a sticky up there stating Bungie had nothing to do with LIVE getting shut down, for all xbox1 games. We get a lot of these, it was Microsoft and it was a business decision that included updating their entire gaming system.


Thanks for clearing this up for me. This is why I asked the question to get a definite answer.

But why would it be done? Halo 2 gave Microsoft most of their money from Xbox games they didn't make any profit outta of it and probably lost profit from shutting down H2 from Xbox Live. Was it cause halo2 couldn't handle the 360 when it came out? If that was the case Microsoft could've told Bungie to fix that up if it was even possible :(.

There was a rumour, however i can't say whether or not this was confirmed or denied, that the original XBL was shutoff due to more or less inactivity. There was the odd games like Halo 2 with a couple of people online but from a business perspective, why would you spend all that money for the minority which probably totalled in the thousands? From a consumer perspective, it's a shame, alot of the older games, Halo 2 included were very enjoyable online and i'd take those over 100+ friends anyday, but unfortunately, the console community just moves on to the latest thing, leaving the previous thing a mere memory..

  • 08.05.2011 5:03 PM PDT

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it wasn't them it was there associates.... lol

they probably could have done a better job explaining what was going on but alot was from the shadows, and the real reasons were never to public.

recall the fake reason they tried to use to turn xbl players on halo 2 was to say that h2 specifically was limiting the friends list cap. it never turned out to be that way but that was one of the ploys of microsoft.

if we could see in the shadows mircorsoft probably had a major hand in it but was bungie indirectly involve... we will never know for sure (they say they never were like Grumpy1 made clear).

Recall Bungie might have had reasons on top of microsoft to try and push h2 players to reach (as some of their give a ways were to that end). To me that would be really bad thinking as it would divert halo 2 fans from the game they enjoyed and would limit the fun making ability of all halos.

  • 08.05.2011 6:46 PM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

Still couldn't MS just hire a small team to put Halo 2 on the Xbox Live Marketplace with Xbox Live enabled? They would make a few bucks off it and be in the positive when it came to profit. The population would start off strong, but eventually it would die down to the population that was equal to the Halo 2 Xbox pre-shutdown...where only the hardcore fans still played it daily.

What could go wrong? The last time MS hired a small team for a Halo project was Hired Gun for Halo 2 Vista and look how...

...oh...

oh wait.

  • 08.05.2011 7:35 PM PDT


Posted by: Super PolarBear
Still couldn't MS just hire a small team to put Halo 2 on the Xbox Live Marketplace with Xbox Live enabled? They would make a few bucks off it and be in the positive when it came to profit. The population would start off strong, but eventually it would die down to the population that was equal to the Halo 2 Xbox pre-shutdown...where only the hardcore fans still played it daily.

What could go wrong? The last time MS hired a small team for a Halo project was Hired Gun for Halo 2 Vista and look how...

...oh...

oh wait.
Lol, well, we should all get CE because if MS makes money on CE then H2 will stay on the corporate chalkboard list of ways to make money. Somewhere between 4 and 5, imo.

  • 08.05.2011 7:47 PM PDT

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Fada beo Halo 2!


Posted by: Grumpy1
No offense but a Ninja should put a sticky up there stating Bungie had nothing to do with LIVE getting shut down, for all xbox1 games. We get a lot of these, it was Microsoft and it was a business decision that included updating their entire gaming system.


That's what I'd say, it was Microsoft, not Bungie.

  • 08.05.2011 8:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Grumpy1
No offense but a Ninja should put a sticky up there stating Bungie had nothing to do with LIVE getting shut down, for all xbox1 games. We get a lot of these, it was Microsoft and it was a business decision that included updating their entire gaming system.

  • 08.05.2011 11:09 PM PDT

"I will show you how a true Prussian officer fights!"

"And i will show you where the iron crosses grow..."

- "Cross of Iron"

It was done because Microsoft wanted to focus on there new 360 game servers and the next generation of there online games.

  • 08.06.2011 12:37 AM PDT

Halo 2 for Life!

they'd not be focusing on the old games for years anyways....

that sounds sort of like a line of excuses micro presented and force fed xbl users....

annoying to see that people actually believed there lines and points.
Posted by: Raptorx7
It was done because Microsoft wanted to focus on there new 360 game servers and the next generation of there online games.

  • 08.06.2011 1:34 AM PDT

It makes me sad that I cant play one of my fav games. I recently got Xbox live and FINALLY am able to kill noobs. Halo 2 was the halo that made me good at the halo games. I wish I could see if my skill in halo 2 means anything online. I will never be able to see if it is. This makes me so sad. I remember going to partys and winning, thinking to myself "wow when I get live I cant wait to play with other people like this". It sucks that it will never happen... =(

  • 08.06.2011 2:10 AM PDT

Halo 2 for Life!

sure you can h2 on kai

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=60351589

only customs though no match making
Posted by: SniperPrime
It makes me sad that I cant play one of my fav games. I recently got Xbox live and FINALLY am able to kill noobs. Halo 2 was the halo that made me good at the halo games. I wish I could see if my skill in halo 2 means anything online. I will never be able to see if it is. This makes me so sad. I remember going to partys and winning, thinking to myself "wow when I get live I cant wait to play with other people like this". It sucks that it will never happen... =(

  • 08.06.2011 3:03 AM PDT
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Sadly, I believe that the original reason had something to do with improving the 360's NEX, which as you may know, I despise. Someone told me they took off the support for the originals in order to increase the newer system's friends lists... which if true, really ticked me. Whether this is true or not does not really matter, however. Microsoft was moving on and getting rid of the past, as anyone with a life does. At least we will have those days of playing Halo 2 on Xbox Live in our eternal memories.

  • 08.06.2011 6:34 AM PDT