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Subject: Why is Noble team so horrible?
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

The most John had was luck. He was not the most exceptional Spartan and the his main talent, for lack of a better word, was luck. Noble Six is just as proficient in combat.

Zealots are also formidable enemies. They are highly skilled in close combat and are exceptionally strong. When you are facing a trio of enemies who are as strong as you, who also happens too have a sword that cuts through your armor like butter, I would forgive some restraint in combat.

  • 08.12.2011 3:31 PM PDT

I'm about as slightly above average as you can get.


Posted by: adzent
Most cutscenes in this game looked good but made little sense.

The cutscene in question however was one of the worst i have ever seen.

Sure, those zealots were some of the sangheili's finest warriors, but 5 spartans should have dispatched them.

1. If you watch the cutscene you will notice Jorge's head flick up slightly even before the zealots appeared, showing that he knew they were there.


Megg itt vanak or whatever she said means "They're still here"

  • 08.12.2011 4:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
How can you measure that his 'will to win' was greater then EVERYBODY Else's?

Even then, it doesn't make him auto-win as people sound like to me.


I Have no idea how your would measure it personally but the good Doctor must of know how, she did state that he had the biggest drive to win.

I agree that its not a auto win but when it is combined with a very lucky individual, you get a AI giving up on calculating your chances of survival because you just will.

Cortana actually does give up calculating for that exact reason in first strike. (or is it the flood?)

  • 08.13.2011 3:49 AM PDT

i kinda agree look at the bottom of my stats

  • 08.13.2011 4:11 AM PDT

Are you threating me?!!??

If they suck so blamin bad how come they all didnt die at once?Plus they are at least better than marines.If you actually knew something about Spartan 3s you would know they didnt have the same augmentations as the spartan 2s and since Spartan 3s were in great numbers unlike the 75 Spartan 2s they were sent on suicide missions and they were expected not to come back alive.So stop complaining about it whoever wrote this forum.


[Edited on 08.13.2011 10:02 AM PDT]

  • 08.13.2011 9:59 AM PDT


Posted by: EliTe137
i kinda agree look at the bottom of my stats


Gameplay AI=/=character canon. Just because the AI sucks and sometimes kill you does not mean the character sucks. Like I've been shot by the marines tons of times in previous Halos, and sometimes killed by them, does that mean that Marines in the UNSC are worthless meatshields because they sometimes kill the player? No, it doesn't, and the same goes for Noble Team or any other AI controlled character.

  • 08.13.2011 10:18 AM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: EliTe137
i kinda agree look at the bottom of my stats


Gameplay AI=/=character canon. Just because the AI sucks and sometimes kill you does not mean the character sucks. Like I've been shot by the marines tons of times in previous Halos, and sometimes killed by them, does that mean that Marines in the UNSC are worthless meatshields because they sometimes kill the player? No, it doesn't, and the same goes for Noble Team or any other AI controlled character.
yeah! they are still meatshields

  • 08.13.2011 10:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: PopulistSilver6

Posted by: adzent
Most cutscenes in this game looked good but made little sense.

The cutscene in question however was one of the worst i have ever seen.

Sure, those zealots were some of the sangheili's finest warriors, but 5 spartans should have dispatched them.

1. If you watch the cutscene you will notice Jorge's head flick up slightly even before the zealots appeared, showing that he knew they were there.


Megg itt vanak or whatever she said means "They're still here"


Are you sure of that? If true that's really cool!

  • 08.13.2011 10:34 AM PDT


Posted by: EliTe137
i kinda agree look at the bottom of my stats


That's other players team-killing you.

I have NEVER seen a Noble Team AI friendly fire me, or another player.

  • 08.13.2011 10:46 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: EliTe137
i kinda agree look at the bottom of my stats


That's other players team-killing you.

I have NEVER seen a Noble Team AI friendly fire me, or another player.


I've been hit by them before, but that was due to my own stupidity more than the AI's, never been killed directly by them except when vehicles are involved.

But yeah, that can't be Noble Team because some of the listed times to have been killed by them are on levels that don't even have a Noble Team member present with you.

  • 08.13.2011 12:18 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: EliTe137
i kinda agree look at the bottom of my stats


That's other players team-killing you.

I have NEVER seen a Noble Team AI friendly fire me, or another player.


I've been hit by them before, but that was due to my own stupidity more than the AI's, never been killed directly by them except when vehicles are involved.

But yeah, that can't be Noble Team because some of the listed times to have been killed by them are on levels that don't even have a Noble Team member present with you.


They can kill you, but only if you're weeetarded and start betraying all the Marines or if playing co-op by killing enough civilians.

  • 08.13.2011 12:20 PM PDT

Noble Team is an embarrassment to the Spartan-III soldiers. Hard to believe they lived that long. They shouldn't be alive after the first mission. Not only is the AI terrible, but even the cutscenes make no sense.

Thank God there are no plans to expand their characters.

  • 08.13.2011 12:25 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: Juan Teran
Noble Team is an embarrassment to the Spartan-III soldiers. Hard to believe they lived that long. They shouldn't be alive after the first mission. Not only is the AI terrible, but even the cutscenes make no sense.

Thank God there are no plans to expand their characters.


Assuming their AI behavior it the way they would act in real life and how do the cutscenes lack any sense?

  • 08.13.2011 12:30 PM PDT

People like to defend Noble Team's actions during the missions by saying that the AI must be balanced with the player, otherwise "the game would be too easy because they are Spartan-III". This, in a way, could be true (I doubt it, but I'll play with those who think that Noble Team is actually a decent group of Spartans), but still, why is the player forced to suffer thanks to the actions of mediocre AI?

The worst part is how easily this can be fixed, but I'm not telling because it's just too awesome for you guys to know :P

Nahhh, just kidding, but I must stress, what's the purpose of adding more Spartans to the squad if they have little to no purpose during the missions? You are the only one who actually gets the job done, most of the time they are either trying to get you killed or hiding, which is annoying. I think the best example of how terrible they are is in the mission where you must protect Halsey, when Carter orders you to activate those four turrets. You see, there are four spartans, and four turrets, and yet, you are forced to activate them all. Noble Six should be the only Spartan, while Noble Team should be like scientists or important people that you must protect, at least that would explain why they can't do anything right. Or even better, Noble Team is a great group of Spartans, but they aren't invincible, they can die during the missions. If a member dies, you are sent to a different mission, or the cutscene changes a little, that way I could actually feel some attachment to the group. The only thing that makes them different to a Marine AI during any mission is the fact that Noble Team can't die (sadly).

Anyways, if they wanted to make the Spartans-III awesome, and make the game challenging, how about some scripted events during the game? For example, in the level "Assault on the Control Room" there is a part in the map where there are two bridges. I can visualize this by having your character in one of the bridges, and other members of Noble Team in the other bridge, which you can't access. Then, if you have the time, you can actually see Noble Team members kicking some ass without interfering in your mission. You know... makes sense.

PS: Yes, I know that "Assault on the Control Room" is a Halo:CE level and not Halo: Reach, it's just an example of how this could work.

[Edited on 08.13.2011 12:51 PM PDT]

  • 08.13.2011 12:49 PM PDT