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Subject: I could easily see Bungie's new game being a different genre

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Posted by: Full Metal Elf
Why even give up on one of the best selling games in xbox histo
And it's story line?? I mean halo was the reason I bought an xbox
To begin with....


They don't want to be tied down to making the same thing over and over. Also, they would have to keep working directly for Microsoft and play by their rules and, as I understand it, that is not very fun.

  • 08.08.2011 3:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: beener25

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Has no-one else seen the article with the information from the recently laid off employees? Isn't it called "Destiny" and is a SciFi FPS?

You mean the one who said it was a MMOFPS?
And the one who's claims of large amounts of people being laid off was met by a comm chatter post by Bungie denying the claims shortly after they had surfaced?

Bungie also joked in reference to that article within some sort of event, why would they joke about something that is reality? I mean I don't go around saying "I'm a guy" as a joke, because I am a guy, and so that wouldn't really be a joke it would more be a statement.


Also, anyone saying that Destiny is a "rumored MMOFPS" is just spewing bull-blam!-. They're guessing. They're hoping. There have been no leaks or any evidence to suggest anything. For all anyone knows, they're making Kinectimals 2: Safari Adventure.


There's plenty of reason to speculate that it's an MMORPGFPS. If you look at their job listings, they're trying to find people who can make economies (hints at RPG) and the possibility of factions (Seven Seraphs, Future War Cult, Osiris, Dead Orbit?) are pretty indicative of an MMO.


Nobody has any idea if those are actually factions (Seven Seraphs, FWC, Osiris, Dead Orbit, New Monarchy) or anything at all, and economies were present (though in a very basic way) in Halo: Reach, an FPS. There is absolutely nothing definitively that points in any way in any direction.

  • 08.08.2011 3:57 PM PDT
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I think they kinda confirmed it not being an MMO. The reason I say kinda is because they said it was a joke when they said it. Scrool down a bit... It saying that when the guy said it was an MMO he was joking.

[Edited on 08.08.2011 3:57 PM PDT]

  • 08.08.2011 3:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: JDZ5
I think they kinda confirmed it not being an MMO. The reason I say kinda is because they said it was a joke when they said it. Scrool down a bit... It saying that when the guy said it was an MMO he was joking.


They could very well be giving us the run around. I've seen that article before. But yeah, honestly at this point anything's possible but nothing is certain or even slightly more so than anything else.

  • 08.08.2011 3:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Nobody has any idea if those are actually factions (Seven Seraphs, FWC, Osiris, Dead Orbit, New Monarchy) or anything at all, and economies were present (though in a very basic way) in Halo: Reach, an FPS. There is absolutely nothing definitively that points in any way in any direction.

Of course, there's nothing definitive out right now, but speculating is what we do here on Bnet fyi.
And when Joe Staten said, "Wouldn't it be great if we could make a world that was always there for you? Wow. That would be great" it made start speculating like crazy.
They've said themselves that it's NOT an MMO but it's sounding like something new with roots in MMO.

  • 08.08.2011 4:12 PM PDT

I spend too much time here.. too much time indeed.

I tweet?

MMO or not, whatever it is it sounds like it's going to be a large persistent world. One with an economy that's driven by the players in that world and won't possibly stray far outside the Sci-Fi and/or FPS genre.
Posted by: beener25
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Nobody has any idea if those are actually factions (Seven Seraphs, FWC, Osiris, Dead Orbit, New Monarchy) or anything at all, and economies were present (though in a very basic way) in Halo: Reach, an FPS. There is absolutely nothing definitively that points in any way in any direction.

Of course, there's nothing definitive out right now, but speculating is what we do here on Bnet fyi.
And when Joe Staten said, "Wouldn't it be great if we could make a world that was always there for you? Wow. That would be great" it made start speculating like crazy.
They've said themselves that it's NOT an MMO but it's sounding like something new with roots in MMO.

  • 08.08.2011 4:18 PM PDT

train hard, win big, live well.

i think it will be a mix of genres. though i am not sure why but i cannot help but assume it will be a shooter at face value.

  • 08.08.2011 4:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: JDZ5
I think they kinda confirmed it not being an MMO. The reason I say kinda is because they said it was a joke when they said it. Scrool down a bit... It saying that when the guy said it was an MMO he was joking.


They could very well be giving us the run around. I've seen that article before. But yeah, honestly at this point anything's possible but nothing is certain or even slightly more so than anything else.
exactly we still really have no idea

  • 08.08.2011 4:50 PM PDT

FPS with an emphasis on cutscenes, action sequences, and character development would be my ultimate preference.

  • 08.08.2011 6:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


Official fan of Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, (Problem with that?) Halo, and Bungie, also a total gaming junkie.

Space flight simulator with TPS sections and a space MMO. Its gotta be that.

  • 08.08.2011 6:54 PM PDT

"There is no time for peace. No respite. No forgiveness. There is only WAR!"

or it could just a first person based game, while it may have a core shooting mechanic, it could very well be like rage; where it has multiple genres of games all rolled into one awesome package.

  • 08.08.2011 10:48 PM PDT

I don't know why, but I have a feeling it's going to be a really indepth rpg that redefines the definition of rpg's. Maybe bungie will make their own console too while they're at it.

  • 08.08.2011 10:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sykodelic Ninja
I don't know why, but I have a feeling it's going to be a really indepth rpg that redefines the definition of rpg's. Maybe bungie will make their own console too while they're at it.


And their own Internet!!!

  • 08.08.2011 10:55 PM PDT

What I've always dreamed of seeing is a giant world or maybe even universe of an MMO game that involved changing legions and diffrent positions that could shape how you played the game. Such as you start the game and you can join an army and it would evolve into an FPS for you though at the same time keeping it interesting in the parts before and after battles.

  • 08.08.2011 10:56 PM PDT

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I guess, finally, I'll post an in depth look at what I personally would like to see in the new Bungie IP. For the ease of reading, I'll attempt to separate the "sections" of my discussion with dividers (empty quotes).



First of all, I'd like it to be an MMOFPS. That said, I don't think you should always have to have a gun physically in your hand, lowered or otherwise. People don't do that in the real world even if they are in the military.



In addition, I would love to see these rumored 5 factions, (New Monarchy, Dead Orbit, Osiris, Seven Seraphs, and FWC [Future War Cult, allegedly]) incorporated into the game. It's like a Horde/Alliance situation like in WoW but more diverse. You aren't blindly picking between two sides because one looks cooler, or ones the "bad" side, or one has a Night Elf and the other has an Orc. But, rather, you would pick between the factions based on their politics.

Each faction would come with both an in depth version and a quick synopsis (TL;DR version) of the factions history, position in the current conflict happening between the five, reasons for being in the conflict, etc... etc... This would give more meaning to the selection of your faction and a bigger distinction between the people who had chosen each faction.

Of course there would be those who choose, say, New Monarchy cause the name sounds cool or Seven Seraphs cause they like the logo. But, there would be the option present to make an informed decision on start up.



Another thing that I've been wanting to see in an MMO for a long time, is constantly updating events in the conflict. Say the story of the game involves a war of some kind. Then provide constant events that are happening like "The Seven Seraphs have taken over a mining colony on [insert whatever made-up planet/continent name here you want]".

It doesn't have to be something like that, in fact it doesn't have to be related to a war at all, but if the factions are implemented I'd like to see constant updating events (one of which COULD BE a war).

Even if it's little insignificant things like a trade agreement or a weapons depot exploding, little things to give the game the feel of having a legitimate timeline in their experience.

This is a big mistake I think Blizzard made with WoW. Everything seems to be happening simultaneously and there's no real concept of time apart from the fact that your guild has a raid scheduled on Saturday night. The timeline was only ever advanced when one of the 3 expansions were released.

In between was a year or 2 of stagnant time where nothing really happened to affect the world. Its as if everything revolves around your player doing things and the world doesn't exists if he/she's not there.



This real time event system could also be implemented for bigger events. Say a big political disagreement or the aforementioned war is started, this could cause players to change factions or go fight in said war etc... etc... Or what if a city gets nuked or attacked or "raided" by players from another faction? That city should show effects of it and be updated in real time.

I know this is asking quite a bit but, if we can have games like Bad Company 2 with destructible environments, why can't those environments stay destructed until money is raised to get the city back into working order?

I know I'm getting very specific and its now turning into Destiny fan fiction of a sort but, my basic point in that rant is that I want the game (if an MMO) to have a sense of a legitimate and active timeline rather than be frozen in time until an update comes.



Another thing that's more of an idea than a hope for the game is patches implemented via updates to the game. I know MMO's on a grand scale get patched quite a bit (I think WoW is like every 2 weeks or something like that?) but if we could have a constantly updating console game that is also an MMO, that would be one little thing Bungie could do that could easily revolutionize the console gaming industry. And for big updates that are just below like an expansion pack, a title update (and the PS3 equivalent, idk if they're called something else).



I've spoken about this before, maybe even in this thread, but I'm going to talk about it again. Because I believe this could really put Bungie on the map as a really big developer to be reckoned with. Well, more so than they already are.

Okay, so let's continue to assume that this is going to be an MMOFPS as some people are assuming (and I'm hoping) it is. That would mean that, if it gets anywhere near as popular as I'm hoping it does, dedicated servers from Bungie. Well, to increase the connection of their fanbase since it is almost confirmed (I believe, I can't find the link where I read about it right now) that this new project "Destiny" will be on PC, PS3, and Xbox 360 (the latter 2 for sure).

What if they found a way to easily implement cross platform gaming. I mean, you could go do a "quest" (or whatever the equivalent would be) with 2 xbox players, a ps3 player, and 3 PC players all in your party. Cross platform gaming on dedicated servers and, dare I say it, cross platform voice chat? (I honestly don't even know if that request is technically sound or possible.)



But that would for sure give Bungie a bigger fanbase. PS3 and PC gamers not familiar with Bungie could be easily welcomed into the community by the veteran Xbox gamers and it would give the whole community a more "united" (for lack of a better word) feel. I feel most games that are released cross platform (say for example 360 and PS3) will have a 360 community and a PS3 community, even if both are multiplayer largely due to the fact that they cannot play together (and they have different means of controlling the game via their controllers but thats a much lesser issue).

Anyway, that's my "wishlist" for this new IP. Please discuss and, obviously, continue to promote the thread with your own ideas. :)

  • 08.08.2011 11:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: dontworryidoctr
What I've always dreamed of seeing is a giant world or maybe even universe of an MMO game that involved changing legions and diffrent positions that could shape how you played the game. Such as you start the game and you can join an army and it would evolve into an FPS for you though at the same time keeping it interesting in the parts before and after battles.
That would be cool

  • 08.09.2011 7:53 AM PDT

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Well, I guess I was asking a lot to read my 6,000 char. post. Oh well, it's out there. :)

  • 08.09.2011 9:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Well, I guess I was asking a lot to read my 6,000 char. post. Oh well, it's out there. :)
It's a little long. You might want to make your own wishlist thread

  • 08.09.2011 9:00 PM PDT