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Subject: how to see invisible ppl in halo.
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Cool thing i found in halo.

Many times you get killed in halo is from someone right in front of you who is invisible. I found a way around it. I have tested it on multible pc's but not with a different graphic card.

The graphic card VisionTek Radion 9200SE has a glich that everything that is suppost to be transparent appears solid. So if you use this graphic card and the game halo when a player turns invisible instead of disappearing they will turn blue or green.

If you want a screen shot I will get one.

  • 03.16.2006 3:41 PM PDT

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Interesting glitch, proof please

  • 03.16.2006 3:42 PM PDT
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give me a second I installed my Vista evaluation copy to show you a glich the graphic card does on it too.

Now I'm installing my windows xp on it so i can use halo pc because halo pc doesn't work on vista.

  • 03.16.2006 3:58 PM PDT
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Flashlight makes people slightly more visible to me.


Same.

  • 03.16.2006 5:19 PM PDT
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i would like to see a pic

  • 03.16.2006 6:06 PM PDT

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... Isn't that technically cheating? On crappy cards I just know they show up transparent, without the cool refraction effect. But either way, that's basically cheating to do it intentionally.

  • 03.16.2006 6:07 PM PDT
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lol i do it all the time if you ever get in a inviable sniper game it will become your best frend ;-)

  • 03.16.2006 6:48 PM PDT

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Just because it's funny, and makes you "LOL" about it, doesn't make it right. Your attitude it basically, "Hehe, I do it all the time and never get caught". People like that usually get caught. (only in your case it's just an ethnics issue, isn't it?)

  • 03.16.2006 7:18 PM PDT
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... Isn't that technically cheating? On crappy cards I just know they show up transparent, without the cool refraction effect. But either way, that's basically cheating to do it intentionally.

first, a ati radion 9200se isn't a crappy card.

I wouldn't count it as cheating from some reasons.

1. Halo antihack dosen't reconize it as cheating.

2. I would consider cheating as using a bot or hacking the game not using a type of hardware.

3. How can you get cought, when I first got halo for my pentium 2 450mhz with this card in it( mini. req. say 700mhz but it runs fine on a p2 450mhz.) I thought that was part of the game. never know the player was to disappear.

4. Acourding to the compadiblity list the ati radion 9200se is on it. So halo must be designed for it.

I don't see this as cheating I only would if I had a link on this topic that lead you to a file that lets you hack the game to do this or a bot.


UPDATE: Sorry, in this computer I have a nvidia card and I can't get my pentium 3 to work right and I don't have a mac version of this card. I will put the card in this computer to get a screen I will have a screen up tomarrow ASAP.

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  • 03.16.2006 8:20 PM PDT
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Killing invisible guys is not so hard,you just have to find the sorce where is he shooting from.Altough if he is with a rocket launcher then run for cover from the rocket.I am not a soo good player but that's the way I spot invisible people.

  • 03.16.2006 8:54 PM PDT
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I had a Radeon 9200 (just plain) that made everyone who was invisible sky-blue colored.

  • 03.16.2006 10:22 PM PDT
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I had the same thing happening on my GF4 Ti 4600. I never realized it wasn't supposed to be like that until I got myself a laptop with an X700 in it.

Doesn't really matter to me... they come visible anyway as soon as they start shooting or get shot.

  • 03.17.2006 3:36 AM PDT
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uh, duh!!

You can generally see anybody who's invisible in Halo (yes, in Halo 2 as well) without the need for a crappy graphics card.

If anyone remembers the James Bond movie (Die Another Day?) where the car goes invisible. When Q walks behind it, the light is bent somewhat because of the cameras on one side of the car projects the image it captures onto the other side.

So all you have to do, really, is look for the bend in the light. You can always make out the general shape of the enemy, especially when they are moving, because the 'light' bends slightly for the outline. Nobody can be technically invisible, unless the programmers decide to make it thus.

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  • 03.17.2006 3:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: Xeniczone
first, a ati radion 9200se isn't a crappy card.

Did I say anything about a Radeon 9200se?

I wouldn't count it as cheating from some reasons.

1. Halo antihack dosen't reconize it as cheating.

2. I would consider cheating as using a bot or hacking the game not using a type of hardware.


3. How can you get cought, when I first got halo for my pentium 2 450mhz with this card in it( mini. req. say 700mhz but it runs fine on a p2 450mhz.) I thought that was part of the game. never know the player was to disappear.

I said it was an ethnics thing. You didn't read my post carefully. Read it again.
No, you can't get caught cheating like that, but it's still wrong to do. I was saying that was basically the attitude. Such as graffiti, "Hey guys, it's fine. No one knows we did it!" He was trying to justify that it was OK. It's not.

4. Acourding to the compadiblity list the ati radion 9200se is on it. So halo must be designed for it.

I don't see this as cheating I only would if I had a link on this topic that lead you to a file that lets you hack the game to do this or a bot.



Cheating, as said above, is using gaining an unfair advantage that wasn't intended by the game developers to win. Rigging your card to intentionally show cloaked people as solid IS cheating.

  • 03.17.2006 8:57 AM PDT

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The reason the Radeon 9200/9000/SE/Pro series doesn't render the camo effect properly is because it doesn't support PixelShader 2.0. It has PS 1.1, and it tries to render it, but fails.

  • 03.17.2006 10:46 AM PDT

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So if it's cheating because it gives you an advantage, how about someone who has a ping of 34 when everyone else has 100 or more? Are they cheating? What can they do? Switch to dial-up? Leave the game? Hesitate before shooting to even things out? Should people who can see invisibles buy a new video card?

Maybe people should just be aware that the invisible powerups don't always make you as invisible as you'd like.
Besides, invisible players are not totally invisible. there's usually some trace visibility and as the powerup fades they can definitly be seen.

  • 03.17.2006 11:14 AM PDT
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I've got two computer's that sit side by side. In the old one, I have a Radeon 9600xt agp card, and in the other I have a nVidia 7800gt pci express. The Radeon's graphic's when your invisible, have sort of a liquid metal or chrome look to it. The nVidia's are just 97% transaprent. I favor the radeon, but that's the only favor for that card.

Doe's it favor you for invisible gametype's? Uhh...yeah, only if your standing right next to someone. Not at short to long distance's. Imho.



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  • 03.17.2006 11:45 AM PDT

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I only mean intentionally doing that is considered cheating, by definition. Look, how about you just DON'T DO IT? How is this even a discussion?

  • 03.17.2006 11:48 AM PDT

Most people would hate that, seeing as it makes the game look crap.

  • 03.17.2006 12:00 PM PDT
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game doesn't look crappy on a 9200se it accually looks pritty good.

He has a point above though about the pings.
Another thing to keep in mind is if someone has a amd fx-57 and other other only has a pentium 3 at minimum requirements isn't that cheating. they can help it the p3 person can get a amd fx-57 but doesn't want to the fx-57 person could get a pentium 3 but doesn't want to so does this mean the fx-57 person is cheating? should he be banned for cheating? cause accourding to your definition he is cheating.

And it is kinda fact if you have a high speed computer and a ping lower then 100 you can be the best halo playing but if your on the minimum requiremnet and have a ping of 120 it is inpossible to be the best. You ask me halo is a poorly programmed and the only way to be fair is so that everybody has a comptuer with the same specs.

  • 03.17.2006 3:58 PM PDT
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The 9200SE is indeed a crappy card. I don't understand how you play Halo on your 350MHz G3. I have an X600 XT on my iMac G5 (soon to be replaced with intel core duo) and I have to play Halo at 1280x800 with specular and shadows off to get 30-50 fps. It's fine if you have a 17" laptop display but if you're using a 20 inch display with a native resolution of 1680x1050, it can kind of look ugly. But Xeniczone, how do you manage to play halo on your G3? Do a time demo, I'm interested to see the results.

  • 03.17.2006 5:09 PM PDT

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