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Subject: Halo 4 Reveal Trailer. The Dissection.

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First off here is IGN's so called 'Halo Pros' dissection.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/06/06/halo-4-rewind-theater


SO; let the dissection begin.




We start off in John's brain; we can see a nerve start to wake up again due to Cortana's urgent calls; remember he is in cryo. This set's off a chain reaction with starts his heart again and flash starts the rest of his brain giving him his motor skills back. And there fore suit control.

He hops out looking damaged (From what I believe to just be from the ending of halo 3; there is no way that cryo did this.). IGN's pros want to point out the 'frost' and the 'ice on the ground' to be a sign that chief has been in storage for a long time; IGN is a bunch of egg heads. Space is freezing cold; half the ship is cut in half; plus no power for heat. That is why there is ice every where. You want to challenge that? Go leave all your windows and doors in your house open in -30c winter and tell me if there is ice and frost everywhere. Egg heads. I'm going to put the time-frame that he was in storage a week at max. In the end of halo 3 he is seen drifting towards this planet. I say the ship drifted about a week in that new distance he is from the planet.

The 'jet pack' is not a jet pack; notice how the jet packs in reach are like backpacks; this pops out of his armor. Johns armor is equipped with zero gravity stability thrusters; just like many Spartans and they specifically mention this many times in the books. For example Kurt-051 who uses them in the book Ghosts of Onyx on their zero Gravity investigation. He is in zero gravity upon exiting his cryo tube. And needs to get out fast because of explosions. Hence he uses the thrusters. IGN says OMG JETPACKS; damn -blam!- egg heads.

The new explosive pistol. IGN egg heads say: OMGZ MUST BE MECHANIC TOOL. Yes; mechanics need explosive weapons, not! I swear they are egg heads. First off; their reasoning for calling this a tool? There are 3 of them floating in the room. Wow. My reasoning? It's a ship; for emergencies I guarantee they have small weapon stashes along the ship. Explosions and zero G caused them to escape and float around. It is a never before seen launcher and it shoots a plasma bolt of sorts that explodes seconds after impact; this ammunition must be reloaded after one shot and must be attached onto the gun.

The planet; the panel zooms out and we get a glimpse of this planet witch I say with 100% confidence that it is a forerunner planet. 97% confidence that it is a shield world. (The forerunners created shield worlds to protect them from the blasts of the rings.) And 95% confidence that this specific shield world is Onyx. First off the planet is opening and it is 100% sucking Keye's ship into it. Check the velocity of the ship at 1:22, that is not drifting. That is definitely a forerunner shield world. The blinding light which is coming from it is whats inside shield worlds. Kurt's explanation in Ghosts of Onyx leads me to believe this. And why Yeshy do you believe this planet is Onyx? The last living Spartan's and Halsey are inside of Onyx. I'm sure by now they have figured out a way to control the planet and could open it for the UNSC ship. Most people say that it is a different forerunner planet with living forerunners; I've read the newest book all about forerunners and I believe this is very unlikely. Not to mention they had Tier 1 technology and would have been see throughout the galaxy by now; they had a giant dynasty and their fleet was all over the universe. I believe the Onyx storyline would be more compelling and lead to a 3 game trilogy. Can you see 3 games of talking to robots on an abandoned shield world? Yeshy can't. Not to mention the sequel to Ghosts of Onyx is in the works. Coincidence? I think not!

There you have it; feel free to pick me apart. I do own 8 Halo books though and have played every game so I do know my lore.

[Edited on 08.10.2011 10:03 AM PDT]

  • 08.10.2011 10:01 AM PDT

It's not Onyx.


Because 343 wouldn't do that. Though, it would be pretty sweet if it was.

  • 08.10.2011 10:03 AM PDT

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Anything can happen. Lol. Im just trying to enlighten people on my ideas.

And it's most definitely a Shield World. I just wanted to spark the idea.

[Edited on 08.10.2011 10:09 AM PDT]

  • 08.10.2011 10:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

very old and inaccurate, never trust IGN

  • 08.10.2011 10:10 AM PDT

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It is very old but I thought why not post my thoughts. IGN can't be trusted your right.

  • 08.10.2011 10:11 AM PDT

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I would post this on the 343 forums. Technically this isn't Bungie's Universe

  • 08.10.2011 10:33 AM PDT

General of The Irish Punks


Posted by: dfisch5
I would post this on the 343 forums. Technically this isn't Bungie's Universe


Ahh, but this is the Halo Universe forum.

OT: Very thoughtful ideas. The timeline between H3 and H4 has to have been longer then four years, there are reasons to that, mainly Cortana is going rampant.

I don't believe that planet is Onyx, it is most definitely an artificial planet, but that doesn't make it Onyx. Also if Halsey and the other Spartans had control of the shield world, why would the ship start exploding?

  • 08.10.2011 10:39 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: Squall4621
Anything can happen.


Not when Onyx was destroyed...

  • 08.10.2011 10:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: dfisch5
I would post this on the 343 forums. Technically this isn't Bungie's Universe


Ahh, but this is the Halo Universe forum.
No, it's the bungie universe

  • 08.10.2011 10:40 AM PDT

The "ice" looks more like ash to me honestly. Unless 343 derped. Space isn't cold. it isn't hot either. There is no temperature in space. There isn't an atmosphere or enough material to sustain the energy or lack of energy required for temperature.

  • 08.10.2011 10:47 AM PDT

Posted by: OniLink147
The "ice" looks more like ash to me honestly. Unless 343 derped. Space isn't cold. it isn't hot either. There is no temperature in space. There isn't an atmosphere or enough material to sustain the energy or lack of energy required for temperature.
Space can have temperatures. It isn't total vacuum, you know. Also, why is the ash on the floor when there's no gravity? It probably is ice that has frozen in place.

  • 08.10.2011 11:04 AM PDT

"Jumping feet first into hell isn't your job,
making sure it's crowded when you get there is"

I think the detonation pistol is absoulutely a weapon, although not a completely new weapon. Mabye its a variant of the beloved Magnum pistol or a det charge launcher, similar to the Reach grenade launcher, only the explosive appears to have adhesive properties.

  • 08.10.2011 11:16 AM PDT

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Kurt set off 2 tactical nukes in the core room, killing himself and the covenant army in the process. 2 nukes are not enough to blow up a planet.
The planet itself was made of sentinals, and at the end they were breaking back into independent units for some reason I didn't get. The planet was not blown up.
Onyx is not destroyed.

  • 08.10.2011 11:19 AM PDT

"Jumping feet first into hell isn't your job,
making sure it's crowded when you get there is"

So what you're saying is that Onyx is now a bunch of free- floating Sentinals? Or did they gather back up?

[Edited on 08.10.2011 11:26 AM PDT]

  • 08.10.2011 11:23 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: Squall4621
Kurt set off 2 tactical nukes in the core room, killing himself and the covenant army in the process. 2 nukes are not enough to blow up a planet.
The planet itself was made of sentinals, and at the end they were breaking back into independent units for some reason I didn't get. The planet was not blown up.
Onyx is not destroyed.


I see you cannot seem to read properly.

In the Epilogue, the crew of the Dusk see that the surface of Onyx was being boiled away which tore the surface of the planet apart. Under all that was revealed to be trillions of Sentinels which broke apart from the "planet" and begun fighting the Covenant fleet.

All that is left of Onyx is the Micro Dyson Sphere, a few meters in diameter in normal space.

The planet itself is gone.

  • 08.10.2011 11:35 AM PDT

"Jumping feet first into hell isn't your job,
making sure it's crowded when you get there is"


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: Squall4621
Kurt set off 2 tactical nukes in the core room, killing himself and the covenant army in the process. 2 nukes are not enough to blow up a planet.
The planet itself was made of sentinals, and at the end they were breaking back into independent units for some reason I didn't get. The planet was not blown up.
Onyx is not destroyed.


I see you cannot seem to read properly.

In the Epilogue, the crew of the Dusk see that the surface of Onyx was being boiled away which tore the surface of the planet apart. Under all that was revealed to be trillions of Sentinels which broke apart from the "planet" and begun fighting the Covenant fleet.

All that is left of Onyx is the Micro Dyson Sphere, a few meters in diameter in normal space.

The planet itself is gone.




I side partailly with both of you simply because Onyx was effectively destroyed, although not completely.

  • 08.10.2011 11:45 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: Kyemicals
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Squall4621
Kurt set off 2 tactical nukes in the core room, killing himself and the covenant army in the process. 2 nukes are not enough to blow up a planet.
The planet itself was made of sentinals, and at the end they were breaking back into independent units for some reason I didn't get. The planet was not blown up.
Onyx is not destroyed.


I see you cannot seem to read properly.

In the Epilogue, the crew of the Dusk see that the surface of Onyx was being boiled away which tore the surface of the planet apart. Under all that was revealed to be trillions of Sentinels which broke apart from the "planet" and begun fighting the Covenant fleet.

All that is left of Onyx is the Micro Dyson Sphere, a few meters in diameter in normal space.

The planet itself is gone.


I side partailly with both of you simply because Onyx was effectively destroyed, although not completely.


There is no more Onyx. Only a Micro Dyson Sphere no bigger than a large fish bowl being guarded by trillions of pissed off Sentinels.

  • 08.10.2011 11:48 AM PDT

"Jumping feet first into hell isn't your job,
making sure it's crowded when you get there is"


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Kyemicals
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Squall4621
Kurt set off 2 tactical nukes in the core room, killing himself and the covenant army in the process. 2 nukes are not enough to blow up a planet.
The planet itself was made of sentinals, and at the end they were breaking back into independent units for some reason I didn't get. The planet was not blown up.
Onyx is not destroyed.


I see you cannot seem to read properly.

In the Epilogue, the crew of the Dusk see that the surface of Onyx was being boiled away which tore the surface of the planet apart. Under all that was revealed to be trillions of Sentinels which broke apart from the "planet" and begun fighting the Covenant fleet.

All that is left of Onyx is the Micro Dyson Sphere, a few meters in diameter in normal space.

The planet itself is gone.


I side partailly with both of you simply because Onyx was effectively destroyed, although not completely.


There is no more Onyx. Only a Micro Dyson Sphere no bigger than a large fish bowl being guarded by trillions of pissed off Sentinels.



Onyx's Sentinels were roused to action by the standby signal from Installation 05, instigating the Battle of Onyx and revealing Onyx's true nature. Not because of a couple nukes.

  • 08.10.2011 11:50 AM PDT

Squal, I posted a little while ago about the "Onyx" theory and they tore me apart about it too, and posted some good reasons behind it that I now realize that the world isn't Onyx. But I am confident that it is a shield world, and if you read Onyx, it mentions that the remaining Spartans and Hasley were taken to a shield world through a portal. So could this be the shield world that they are in also? I believe so. John meeting up with the rest of the crew? That would make an epic story

  • 08.10.2011 11:51 AM PDT

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That would sound pretty cool, I forgot about the whole portal deal.

  • 08.10.2011 11:54 AM PDT

Walk softly, and carry a big midget.

It isn't Onyx.

  • 08.10.2011 11:54 AM PDT

I also posted what's below. It's from the description of the final "Forerunner saga" book. Which they said will tie in with halo 4

"A long time ago, I was a living, breathing human being. I went mad. I served my enemies. They became my only friends.

Since then, I've traveled back and forth across this galaxy, and out to the spaces between galaxies - a greater reach than any human before me.

You have asked me to tell you about that time. Since you are the last true reclaimer, I must obey. Are you recording? Good. Because my memory is failing rapidly. I doubt I'll be able to finish the story.

Once, on my birthworld, a world I knew as Erde-Tyrene, and which now is called Earth, my name was Chakas...


In the wake of apparent self-destruction of the Forerunner empire, two humans, Chakas and Riser, are like flotsam washed up on very strange shores indeed.

Captured by the Master Builder, misplaced during a furious battle in space, they now find themselves on an inverted world where horizons rise into the sky, and where humans of all kinds are trapped in a perilous cycle of horror and neglect. For they have become both research animals and strategic pawns in a cosmic game whoes madness knows no end, a game of ancient powers who seeded the galaxy with life, and the Forerunners who expect to inherit their sacred Mantle of duty to all living things."

I believe that Chakas is talking to Master Chief, because he refers to whoever he is talking to as "the last reclaimer". There is also a lot of proof that he is talking in the "present" because he refers to 'earth' as being 'formerly called' "Erde-Tyrene". and he mentions that he is no longer alive, but a recording or something and that when he was alive was a 'long time ago'.

[Edited on 08.10.2011 12:01 PM PDT]

  • 08.10.2011 11:55 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: Kyemicals
Onyx's Sentinels were roused to action by the standby signal from Installation 05, instigating the Battle of Onyx and revealing Onyx's true nature. Not because of a couple nukes.


I never said it was because of the FENRIS nukes. -_-

  • 08.10.2011 11:56 AM PDT

"Jumping feet first into hell isn't your job,
making sure it's crowded when you get there is"


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Kyemicals
Onyx's Sentinels were roused to action by the standby signal from Installation 05, instigating the Battle of Onyx and revealing Onyx's true nature. Not because of a couple nukes.


I never said it was because of the FENRIS nukes. -_-



Yes, but squall suggested it, and im countering his theory about sentinals breaking up the planet, the signal did, although Kurt did manually det two nukes, denying covenant access to the Micro Dyson Sphere.

[Edited on 08.10.2011 12:08 PM PDT]

  • 08.10.2011 11:58 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: RavUKsoldier
Squal, I posted a little while ago about the "Onyx" theory and they tore me apart about it too, and posted some good reasons behind it that I now realize that the world isn't Onyx. But I am confident that it is a shield world, and if you read Onyx, it mentions that the remaining Spartans and Hasley were taken to a shield world through a portal. So could this be the shield world that they are in also? I believe so. John meeting up with the rest of the crew? That would make an epic story


No, Halsey and the others went through the antechamber portal into the Micro Dyson Sphere. It is a sphere at the core of Onyx encased in a slipspace field of compressed dimensionality, it exists simultaneously in slipspace and in normal space.

In the case of former, it has a surface area many times the size of Earth. In the case of the latter, it is a few meters in diameter.

What we saw John heading towards exceeds "a few meters in diameter".

Why would Mendicant Bias send John to the MDS anyway? He says he's sending John to the Forerunners, Halsey confirms that a scan of the MDS revealed that there were no Forerunners inside the MDS.

  • 08.10.2011 12:06 PM PDT

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