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Subject: When you will know the truth...What will you do?

I hawe seen more than 23theories about halo4, like:
1st person:it's onyx
2nd person:no dumbass it isn't, onyx was destroyed!

Well if you will be right at end of the release about your theory, will you be like:
True person:HAHA! Suck it dick head i was -blam!- right!

Or if you will be wrong you will normaly apologize like this:
You:Well i bet my theory was the right one after all, 343 feed you full with propoganda!

Well what will you say to people who disagreeded with you?

Basicialy i will tell.
If i was wrong:
Damn... i gues i was wrong after all! Cherz 4 u that u were right!
If i was right:
Hell yeah!I told you, but it could happen to anybodey...

Share your thoughts with me!

Sorry for my bad grammar and spelling...(if there was any).

  • 08.11.2011 8:40 AM PDT

Yes, I am going to laugh when the UNSC and Covenant are in Halo 4.

  • 08.11.2011 8:42 AM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Yes, I am going to laugh when the UNSC and Covenant are in Halo 4.

Me too bro, me too...

  • 08.11.2011 8:44 AM PDT

I don't know why you think they will be in Halo 4.

-The covenant are disbanded and only fragments of the "Covenant" remain. They've broken apart.

-Master Chief is about to be sucked into a Shield world in the Halo 4 trailer. Shield worlds were built by the forerunners OUTSIDE of the galaxy. That's Outside of the UNSC's reach. Not saying that we will never see the UNSC again, but As long as John is in the shield world there will be no UNSC in the game.

  • 08.11.2011 8:58 AM PDT

But what could possibly replace them. It cant be forunner, flood or even covenant so what?.... hmmm....

  • 08.11.2011 9:03 AM PDT

This has nothing to do with the Bungie Universe.

  • 08.11.2011 9:07 AM PDT

It can most defintely be flood, forerunner or even precursor. Nothing rules any of that out. Hell, it could even be ancient humans locked away in this shield world. The last book in the forerunner series' description talks of humans being locked away in these shield worlds:

"Captured by the Master Builder, misplaced during a furious battle in space, they now find themselves on an inverted world where horizons rise into the sky, and where humans of all kinds are trapped in a perilous cycle of horror and neglect. For they have become both research animals and strategic pawns in a cosmic game whose madness knows no end--a game of ancient vengeance between the powers who seeded the galaxy with life, and the Forerunners who expect to inherit their sacred Mantle of duty to all living things."

Also in that quote, it makes it pretty obvious that the Forerunners have a very selfish agenda at hand, and are even experimenting with humans. Interesting.

  • 08.11.2011 9:36 AM PDT


Posted by: RavUKsoldier
I don't know why you think they will be in Halo 4.

-The covenant are disbanded and only fragments of the "Covenant" remain. They've broken apart.

-Master Chief is about to be sucked into a Shield world in the Halo 4 trailer. Shield worlds were built by the forerunners OUTSIDE of the galaxy. That's Outside of the UNSC's reach. Not saying that we will never see the UNSC again, but As long as John is in the shield world there will be no UNSC in the game.

Who's to say the ship the MC's on is the only one to be sucked through the portal? There could be other before and during the game. We will definatly see the flood, they will be brought in somehow.

I think more then anything, sudenly removing everything recognisable from the halo universe, then just giveing everything new would be a mistake, it'd leave too many people scratching their heads.

I do wonder how far into the future they'll set this though. My gues would be a decadeish, well find out in time.

  • 08.11.2011 9:59 AM PDT

The only thing I see wrong with your post is this

Who's to say the ship the MC's on is the only one to be sucked through the portal? There could be other before and during the game. We will definatly see the flood, they will be brought in somehow.

Mendicant Bias sent John specifically to that point in space, but may have missed to the frantic nauture of the situation, explaining why he had to 'float' there and go into cryo-sleep. And the purposley sent the Arbiter the other way. He ONLY wanted John going there. Mendican Bias' forerunner knowledge gives him a great knowledge in slipspace technology. He wouldn't have sent anyone else through that portal.

Also this:
I do wonder how far into the future they'll set this though. My gues would be a decadeish, well find out in time.

Cortana's AI lifespan would be into rampancy at that point. I don't think its been a decade when right when the chief is entering Cryo-sleep you can see the shield world in the background. He isn't that far from it. Like I said Mendicant Bias is very good at slipspace technology.

[Edited on 08.11.2011 10:13 AM PDT]

  • 08.11.2011 10:12 AM PDT

damn... thayt is alot of off topic... or you just didn't understand the question

  • 08.11.2011 10:13 AM PDT

Bungie I think it is kinda crappy that you can't get the flaming blue helmet anymore some people has a job and doesn't have time to play so that winged me from buyin any of your games anymore of how crappy you was about that I put alot of money in getting all the collector edition halo's then buying the xbox i juat don't thinkt that is fair or right to give all flaming blue helmets to people that stays on it 24/7 this is what I think if you wish to know my gamertag here it is l3 slayer 13 but I will not be buying anymore of your products

  • 08.11.2011 10:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

I remember back when the Halo Reach VGA trailer was released, there was this HUGE argument between those who belived NOBLE TEAM were Spartan III's and those who thought they werent.

I was on the side that they were Spartan III's, against the majority of the forum who said they werent. And guess who won?

=)

  • 08.11.2011 10:22 AM PDT

LOL WTF?
Posted by: MythZombie13
Bungie I think it is kinda crappy that you can't get the flaming blue helmet anymore some people has a job and doesn't have time to play so that winged me from buyin any of your games anymore of how crappy you was about that I put alot of money in getting all the collector edition halo's then buying the xbox i juat don't thinkt that is fair or right to give all flaming blue helmets to people that stays on it 24/7 this is what I think if you wish to know my gamertag here it is l3 slayer 13 but I will not be buying anymore of your products

  • 08.11.2011 10:22 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: RavUKsoldier
I don't know why you think they will be in Halo 4.

-The covenant are disbanded and only fragments of the "Covenant" remain. They've broken apart.

And that rules them out of the fight against a threat to all, how exactly?

Posted by: RavUKsoldier
-Master Chief is about to be sucked into a Shield world in the Halo 4 trailer. Shield worlds were built by the forerunners OUTSIDE of the galaxy. That's Outside of the UNSC's reach. Not saying that we will never see the UNSC again,

Where is your source that states that Shield Worlds where built outside of the galaxy?

Was Onyx outside the galaxy? Was the one in Halo Wars?

Posted by: RavUKsoldier
but As long as John is in the shield world there will be no UNSC in the game.

Halo 3 started on Earth and ended outside the galaxy. There is no reason to assume that John will remain wherever he is for the duration of the entire game.

  • 08.11.2011 10:29 AM PDT


Posted by: RavUKsoldier
It can most defintely be flood, forerunner or even precursor. Nothing rules any of that out. Hell, it could even be ancient humans locked away in this shield world. The last book in the forerunner series' description talks of humans being locked away in these shield worlds:

"Captured by the Master Builder, misplaced during a furious battle in space, they now find themselves on an inverted world where horizons rise into the sky, and where humans of all kinds are trapped in a perilous cycle of horror and neglect. For they have become both research animals and strategic pawns in a cosmic game whose madness knows no end--a game of ancient vengeance between the powers who seeded the galaxy with life, and the Forerunners who expect to inherit their sacred Mantle of duty to all living things."

Also in that quote, it makes it pretty obvious that the Forerunners have a very selfish agenda at hand, and are even experimenting with humans. Interesting.


That is talking specifically about Primordium, the second Forerunner book, not the last, still about 100,000 or so years into the past before the Human-Covenant War. And that is the work of the former Master Builder, Faber, he is the only true monster and -blam!- we've seen from amongst the Forerunners. He and whoever loyally followed him completely are the minority amongst the Forerunners as a whole and they and their twisted experiments don't exemplify their race as a whole. And it is not talking about a Shield World, it's talking about a Halo ring.

You're taking the quote completely out of its greater context. And you're not right about the Forerunners at all.

  • 08.11.2011 10:33 AM PDT

Posted by: RavUKsoldier
but As long as John is in the shield world there will be no UNSC in the game.[/quote]
Halo 3 started on Earth and ended outside the galaxy. There is no reason to assume that John will remain wherever he is for the duration of the entire game.


Exactly why I put, AS LONG AS HE IS INSIDE THAT SHIELD WORLD there will be no UNSC. Because as long as he is inside the shield world he is outside the galaxy.

But you are right about some of the shield world being built inside of the galaxy. Sorry, I was wrong about that.

  • 08.11.2011 10:39 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

You will prove me that the Halo 4 construct is a shield world,you will do so now.

Frankie already confirmed it isn't Onyx or something like a shield world.

Onyx fans and Reach fans got pwned

  • 08.11.2011 10:43 AM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: RavUKsoldier
It can most defintely be flood, forerunner or even precursor. Nothing rules any of that out. Hell, it could even be ancient humans locked away in this shield world. The last book in the forerunner series' description talks of humans being locked away in these shield worlds:

"Captured by the Master Builder, misplaced during a furious battle in space, they now find themselves on an inverted world where horizons rise into the sky, and where humans of all kinds are trapped in a perilous cycle of horror and neglect. For they have become both research animals and strategic pawns in a cosmic game whose madness knows no end--a game of ancient vengeance between the powers who seeded the galaxy with life, and the Forerunners who expect to inherit their sacred Mantle of duty to all living things."

Also in that quote, it makes it pretty obvious that the Forerunners have a very selfish agenda at hand, and are even experimenting with humans. Interesting.


That is talking specifically about Primordium, the second Forerunner book, not the last, still about 100,000 or so years into the past before the Human-Covenant War. And that is the work of the former Master Builder, Faber, he is the only true monster and -blam!- we've seen from amongst the Forerunners. He and whoever loyally followed him completely are the minority amongst the Forerunners as a whole and they and their twisted experiments don't exemplify their race as a whole. And it is not talking about a Shield World, it's talking about a Halo ring.

You're taking the quote completely out of its greater context. And you're not right about the Forerunners at all.


I apologize for -blam!- on the Forerunners. Sorry, I misinterpreted that quote. But if you read the beginning of the description for that book (primordium) Chakas' (an ancient human) recording is talking to the Chief and telling him these stories which I think is going to tie into Halo 4, or at least one of the new games in the new trilogy.

  • 08.11.2011 10:47 AM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II
You will prove me that the Halo 4 construct is a shield world,you will do so now.

Frankie already confirmed it isn't Onyx or something like a shield world.

Onyx fans and Reach fans got pwned


I remember him saying it isn't onyx. When did he say it wasn't a shield world?

  • 08.11.2011 10:49 AM PDT

''Where is your source that states that Shield Worlds where built outside of the galaxy?

Was Onyx outside the galaxy? Was the one in Halo Wars?''

Where is stated that they werent built...?

  • 08.11.2011 10:50 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: RavUKsoldier
Exactly why I put, AS LONG AS HE IS INSIDE THAT SHIELD WORLD there will be no UNSC. Because as long as he is inside the shield world he is outside the galaxy.

...But it was pointless to say that, because everyone already knows that. You were implying that the UNSC would not appear hinging on the fact that Chief stays where he is for the duration of the game. Why else mention something that is intuitively obvious?

And how did you conclude that he is outside the galaxy?

Posted by: RavUKsoldier
But you are right about some of the shield world being built inside of the galaxy. Sorry, I was wrong about that.

Some? We have evidence for them being built inside the galaxy but no evidence for them being built outside of the galaxy. Whilst this does not prove that some were not built outside the galaxy I am going to go under the assumption that none were because there is no evidence for that claim.

Posted by: AnubissWarior
''Where is your source that states that Shield Worlds where built outside of the galaxy?

Was Onyx outside the galaxy? Was the one in Halo Wars?''

Where is stated that they werent built...?

What?

  • 08.11.2011 11:03 AM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

I'm not a big theory person to begin with. I usually don't listen to them and just wait for what's really going on. So, when I do know "the truth"...I don't know. I guess I'll either be blown away or meh or that was predictable.

  • 08.11.2011 11:19 AM PDT


Posted by: RavUKsoldier
Posted by: RavUKsoldier
but As long as John is in the shield world there will be no UNSC in the game.[/quote]
Halo 3 started on Earth and ended outside the galaxy. There is no reason to assume that John will remain wherever he is for the duration of the entire game.


Exactly why I put, AS LONG AS HE IS INSIDE THAT SHIELD WORLD there will be no UNSC. Because as long as he is inside the shield world he is outside the galaxy.

But you are right about some of the shield world being built inside of the galaxy. Sorry, I was wrong about that.

I read somewhere ONI knows of the shield world's existence.
I'll try and find the link.

  • 08.11.2011 12:17 PM PDT


Posted by: RavUKsoldier

Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: RavUKsoldier
It can most defintely be flood, forerunner or even precursor. Nothing rules any of that out. Hell, it could even be ancient humans locked away in this shield world. The last book in the forerunner series' description talks of humans being locked away in these shield worlds:

"Captured by the Master Builder, misplaced during a furious battle in space, they now find themselves on an inverted world where horizons rise into the sky, and where humans of all kinds are trapped in a perilous cycle of horror and neglect. For they have become both research animals and strategic pawns in a cosmic game whose madness knows no end--a game of ancient vengeance between the powers who seeded the galaxy with life, and the Forerunners who expect to inherit their sacred Mantle of duty to all living things."

Also in that quote, it makes it pretty obvious that the Forerunners have a very selfish agenda at hand, and are even experimenting with humans. Interesting.


That is talking specifically about Primordium, the second Forerunner book, not the last, still about 100,000 or so years into the past before the Human-Covenant War. And that is the work of the former Master Builder, Faber, he is the only true monster and -blam!- we've seen from amongst the Forerunners. He and whoever loyally followed him completely are the minority amongst the Forerunners as a whole and they and their twisted experiments don't exemplify their race as a whole. And it is not talking about a Shield World, it's talking about a Halo ring.

You're taking the quote completely out of its greater context. And you're not right about the Forerunners at all.


I apologize for -blam!- on the Forerunners. Sorry, I misinterpreted that quote. But if you read the beginning of the description for that book (primordium) Chakas' (an ancient human) recording is talking to the Chief and telling him these stories which I think is going to tie into Halo 4, or at least one of the new games in the new trilogy.


No you're allowed to rage at the Forerunners, haha XD 'Cause they're not exactly the nicest of people, I was just correcting what was in error. I didn't see it as rage anyway :/ Sorry if I came across too strong...I think I've seen too many unintelligent comments recently (not that your post was unintelligent) so I guess I'm a bit on edge :/

That is pretty definite, I think it's quite safe to assume that Chakas is talking to Chief, and we know that the whole Forerunner trilogy will tie in with Halo 4. I really can't wait :D

  • 08.11.2011 12:22 PM PDT


Posted by: ChrisVN

Posted by: RavUKsoldier
Posted by: RavUKsoldier
but As long as John is in the shield world there will be no UNSC in the game.[/quote]
Halo 3 started on Earth and ended outside the galaxy. There is no reason to assume that John will remain wherever he is for the duration of the entire game.


Exactly why I put, AS LONG AS HE IS INSIDE THAT SHIELD WORLD there will be no UNSC. Because as long as he is inside the shield world he is outside the galaxy.

But you are right about some of the shield world being built inside of the galaxy. Sorry, I was wrong about that.

I read somewhere ONI knows of the shield world's existence.
I'll try and find the link.


I know that now, I read it on Wikia. But I also read somewhere, I can't find now, that the Forerunners built some outside the Galaxy that no one knows about. Anyways, besides that, yes ONI knows about them because, I cant remember which ship, had to blow one up to stop the covenant from possessing the forerunner ships inside.

  • 08.11.2011 12:24 PM PDT

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