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Subject: Spark of Thought

I just had one of those light bulb moments while researching some things on what world MC could be stumbling upon.

On Halo Wikia it mentions that their is Flood-Controlled shield world. We also know that Mendicant Bias was corrupted and helped the flood to take over this shield world by telling them the locations of them.

Now Mendicant Bias tells John that he wants to set straight the evils he committed before,

WHAT IF, Mendicant Bias, seeing John had proved himself capable of taking on the flood before sent John to the Flood-Controlled shield world to "Right the wrongs of the past" and destroy the flood?

I don't know, just a random thought and i'm sure I'll get torn apart for this one too.

  • 08.11.2011 10:56 AM PDT

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That sounds pretty logical. And the "ancient enemy" could just be the flood. But yeah I'd flamesuit up because people are gonna start poking holes in this one.

  • 08.11.2011 11:16 AM PDT

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That would actually be pretty damn awesome. I love fighting the Flood. They have the potential to actually make them scary too, like in the Mona Lisa. Also, with all the speculation of the prisoner being the Gravemind...it may tie in well with the Forerunners and whatnot.

[Edited on 08.11.2011 11:20 AM PDT]

  • 08.11.2011 11:17 AM PDT

Thanks guys! *Flamesuit Activated*

  • 08.11.2011 11:18 AM PDT

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  • 08.11.2011 12:05 PM PDT


Posted by: matman25402
This is one of the few intelligent posts on these forums. I applaud you sir.


Wow really? I thought I was gonna get torn up for this one lol

And thank you sir!

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  • 08.11.2011 12:11 PM PDT

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It's an interesting idea, but there's a few flaws.

1) We do not know what became of the other Shield Worlds, the only one we actually know of that was taken over by the Flood was the one in halo Wars (and it was destroyed).

2) Bias said he would "have my makers know that I have changed". Sending him to a Flood infested Shield World where the Flood are only going to be a feral threat isn't really something that can compare to "destroying" the Gravemind and the Flood at High Charity/the Ark/Installation 04B.

3) Carrying on from the above point, it appears that MB is sending John to the Forerunners themselves - outside the Orion Arm - in order to prove his atonement. Sending him to some derelict Shield World wouldn't exactly be the best way to clue the Forerunners in on what's going on. And he can hardly expect John to single-handedly clear an entire planet of Flood.

  • 08.11.2011 12:21 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
It's an interesting idea, but there's a few flaws.

1) We do not know what became of the other Shield Worlds, the only one we actually know of that was taken over by the Flood was the one in halo Wars (and it was destroyed).

2) Bias said he would "have my makers know that I have changed". Sending him to a Flood infested Shield World where the Flood are only going to be a feral threat isn't really something that can compare to "destroying" the Gravemind and the Flood at High Charity/the Ark/Installation 04B.

3) Carrying on from the above point, it appears that MB is sending John to the Forerunners themselves - outside the Orion Arm - in order to prove his atonement. Sending him to some derelict Shield World wouldn't exactly be the best way to clue the Forerunners in on what's going on. And he can hardly expect John to single-handedly clear an entire planet of Flood.


Hmm, Got ya. Well, it was fun while it lasted lol

So then were do you think he has sent him?

  • 08.11.2011 12:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
This is one of the few intelligent posts on these forums. I applaud you sir.

  • 08.11.2011 12:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: RavUKsoldier

Posted by: ajw34307
It's an interesting idea, but there's a few flaws.

1) We do not know what became of the other Shield Worlds, the only one we actually know of that was taken over by the Flood was the one in halo Wars (and it was destroyed).

2) Bias said he would "have my makers know that I have changed". Sending him to a Flood infested Shield World where the Flood are only going to be a feral threat isn't really something that can compare to "destroying" the Gravemind and the Flood at High Charity/the Ark/Installation 04B.

3) Carrying on from the above point, it appears that MB is sending John to the Forerunners themselves - outside the Orion Arm - in order to prove his atonement. Sending him to some derelict Shield World wouldn't exactly be the best way to clue the Forerunners in on what's going on. And he can hardly expect John to single-handedly clear an entire planet of Flood.


Hmm, Got ya. Well, it was fun while it lasted lol

So then were do you think he has sent him?


Exactly where, I do not know. All that is concrete fact is that it's outside the Orion Arm, a long way away from UNSC or even Covenant space.

  • 08.11.2011 12:45 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: RavUKsoldier

Posted by: ajw34307
It's an interesting idea, but there's a few flaws.

1) We do not know what became of the other Shield Worlds, the only one we actually know of that was taken over by the Flood was the one in halo Wars (and it was destroyed).

2) Bias said he would "have my makers know that I have changed". Sending him to a Flood infested Shield World where the Flood are only going to be a feral threat isn't really something that can compare to "destroying" the Gravemind and the Flood at High Charity/the Ark/Installation 04B.

3) Carrying on from the above point, it appears that MB is sending John to the Forerunners themselves - outside the Orion Arm - in order to prove his atonement. Sending him to some derelict Shield World wouldn't exactly be the best way to clue the Forerunners in on what's going on. And he can hardly expect John to single-handedly clear an entire planet of Flood.


Hmm, Got ya. Well, it was fun while it lasted lol

So then were do you think he has sent him?


Exactly where, I do not know. All that is concrete fact is that it's outside the Orion Arm, a long way away from UNSC or even Covenant space.


Ok so you agree that it's outside the galaxy correct? Cause I keep getting flamed in other posts about this "world" being outside the galaxy (reach of Covenant or UNSC).

  • 08.11.2011 12:47 PM PDT

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Hmm, maybe. I like fighting the Flood, so this would be cool. I just hope it would not be like Cortana (level).

  • 08.11.2011 12:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: RavUKsoldier
Ok so you agree that it's outside the galaxy correct? Cause I keep getting flamed in other posts about this "world" being outside the galaxy (reach of Covenant or UNSC).


No, no. I said outside the Orion Arm, it's still within the Milky Way but it's beyond UNSC and Covenant territory.

110,000 years ago, Ancient Humanity had only really started expanding beyond the Orion Arm (before they were devolved).

  • 08.11.2011 12:53 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: RavUKsoldier
Ok so you agree that it's outside the galaxy correct? Cause I keep getting flamed in other posts about this "world" being outside the galaxy (reach of Covenant or UNSC).


No, no. I said outside the Orion Arm, it's still within the Milky Way but it's beyond UNSC and Covenant territory.

110,000 years ago, Ancient Humanity had only really started expanding beyond the Orion Arm (before they were devolved).


Okay, sorry. I'm not the greatest at Astronomy, sorry about that.

Doesn't it mention the Forerunners basically abandoning ship and leaving this galaxy though somewhere? Or was it just them abandoning the Orion Arm?

  • 08.11.2011 12:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: ajw34307
It's an interesting idea, but there's a few flaws.

1) We do not know what became of the other Shield Worlds, the only one we actually know of that was taken over by the Flood was the one in halo Wars (and it was destroyed).

2) Bias said he would "have my makers know that I have changed". Sending him to a Flood infested Shield World where the Flood are only going to be a feral threat isn't really something that can compare to "destroying" the Gravemind and the Flood at High Charity/the Ark/Installation 04B.

3) Carrying on from the above point, it appears that MB is sending John to the Forerunners themselves - outside the Orion Arm - in order to prove his atonement. Sending him to some derelict Shield World wouldn't exactly be the best way to clue the Forerunners in on what's going on. And he can hardly expect John to single-handedly clear an entire planet of Flood.
But here's the flaw in your logic, that we don't know what happened to the other sheild worlds, the dvelopers could do anything to the story that makes it Have flood, or Covenant reminants. However, the main thing I want to see Is the original devise that spawned the shangeli energy sword, and how it could be used in combat.

  • 08.11.2011 1:08 PM PDT


Posted by: pet400

Posted by: ajw34307
It's an interesting idea, but there's a few flaws.

1) We do not know what became of the other Shield Worlds, the only one we actually know of that was taken over by the Flood was the one in halo Wars (and it was destroyed).

2) Bias said he would "have my makers know that I have changed". Sending him to a Flood infested Shield World where the Flood are only going to be a feral threat isn't really something that can compare to "destroying" the Gravemind and the Flood at High Charity/the Ark/Installation 04B.

3) Carrying on from the above point, it appears that MB is sending John to the Forerunners themselves - outside the Orion Arm - in order to prove his atonement. Sending him to some derelict Shield World wouldn't exactly be the best way to clue the Forerunners in on what's going on. And he can hardly expect John to single-handedly clear an entire planet of Flood.
But here's the flaw in your logic, that we don't know what happened to the other sheild worlds, the dvelopers could do anything to the story that makes it Have flood, or Covenant reminants. However, the main thing I want to see Is the original devise that spawned the shangeli energy sword, and how it could be used in combat.


Well my thought was this:

I know the Halo Wars shield world was destroyed, but what if more shield worlds were consumed by the flood, or at least one other one. Mendicant Bias told the flood were they all were, correct? But, I also agree that I don't think he would send John to a whole planet of flood on his own. But maybe he is sending him to the remaining Forerunners to unlock ancient technologies to finally wipe the flood out for good?

How epic of a twist would it be for Mendicant Bias to send John to this unknown planet to reclaim ancient technology, thinking the Forerunners are there only to find it deserted, desolated, and overrun by the flood? Ha, I highly doubt that. But it would make for an interesting Horror/Sci-Fi twist to the Halo Universe. IMO

  • 08.11.2011 1:17 PM PDT
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And since Mendicant mentioned, "meet your makers" if we combine that with your theory, then does that also possibly mean, flood infected Forunners?

  • 08.11.2011 1:20 PM PDT

I like this, I think this is quite an intelligent post.

  • 08.11.2011 1:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Sandtrap
And since Mendicant mentioned, "meet your makers" if we combine that with your theory, then does that also possibly mean, flood infected Forunners?


Well, If it goes with what I posted as an unlikely theory, then yes. The Forerunners would have been overrun, so there would be forerunner/flood mutants. Could you imagine fighting 5meter(15ft) tall flood?

  • 08.11.2011 1:43 PM PDT