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Subject: Chakwas in Halo 4 and Halo: Primordium

~~Take A~~
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This is *A* *monologue* for Halo: Primordium.

A long time ago, I was a living, breathing human being. I went mad. I served my enemies. They became my only friends.
Since then, Ive traveled back and forth across this galaxy, and out to the spaces between galaxies,a greater reach than any human before me.
You have asked me to tell you about that time. Since you are the last true Reclaimer, I must obey. Are you recording? Good. Because my memory is failing rapidly. I doubt I'll be able to finish the story.
Once, on my birth-world, a world I knew as Erde-Tyrene, and which now is called Earth, my name was Chakas...

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Frank O'Connor has mentioned that the story is "closer to the ground" than that of Cryptum, and that it will have "resonant connections" to Halo 4.Greg Bear has hinted at a connection between John-117 and one of the novel's human characters. He also confirmed that the novel will explore the Precursors' plan, and that it may cover events that occurred up to three billion years before the events of Halo: Combat Evolved.

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Chakas is talking to the Master Chief in the *monolouge* at the top of the page. Just to prove this fact-the reclaimer statues was given to humans after the Halo Rings fired, also Erde Tyrene was not named Earth until after the Halo Rings activation, and for the grand finale, The Last True Reclaimer is the Master Chief.

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Note: The text above is taken from the halo wiki from the page
http://http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Primordium
Discuss.

[Edited on 08.12.2011 5:51 AM PDT]

  • 08.12.2011 5:46 AM PDT

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That's not a prologue, it's a monologue. Plus this is weeks old.

  • 08.12.2011 5:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
That's not a prologue, it's a monologue. Plus this is weeks old.


Obviously this is weeks old, just thought it was relevant, I'll edit my post by the way.

  • 08.12.2011 5:51 AM PDT

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Man i am so checked out on the Halo story. Why did they make a forerunner book????

Forerunner are supposed to be mysterious. I really dont want to know about them. It is supposed to be for imagination and stuff. But i guess screw that, they have to push game sales right? So i guess it really kind of honorable that Bungie has left Halo for this reason.

In fact thats how Halo 3 ended, GOOD GOOD ENDING, just open enough to let you wonder. MS says "screw that noise were gonna duct tape that ending to 3 new games coming out in 2 year increments". ugh.

Halo 4 doesnt exist.

  • 08.12.2011 6:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
Man i am so checked out on the Halo story. Why did they make a forerunner book????

Forerunner are supposed to be mysterious. I really dont want to know about them. It is supposed to be for imagination and stuff. But i guess screw that, they have to push game sales right? So i guess it really kind of honorable that Bungie has left Halo for this reason.

In fact thats how Halo 3 ended, GOOD GOOD ENDING, just open enough to let you wonder. MS says "screw that noise were gonna duct tape that ending to 3 new games coming out in 2 year increments". ugh.

Halo 4 doesnt exist.


Please write that in a context that a normal human being can understand, thanks.

  • 08.12.2011 6:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: chills pills

Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
Man i am so checked out on the Halo story. Why did they make a forerunner book????

Forerunner are supposed to be mysterious. I really dont want to know about them. It is supposed to be for imagination and stuff. But i guess screw that, they have to push game sales right? So i guess it really kind of honorable that Bungie has left Halo for this reason.

In fact thats how Halo 3 ended, GOOD GOOD ENDING, just open enough to let you wonder. MS says "screw that noise were gonna duct tape that ending to 3 new games coming out in 2 year increments". ugh.

Halo 4 doesnt exist.


Please write that in a context that a normal human being can understand, thanks.


hmm. what do you mean? i jumped from one point to another once or twice, but i separated my points. What did you not understand?

  • 08.12.2011 6:17 AM PDT

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Posted by: j7holdfastjack7

Posted by: chills pills

Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
Man i am so checked out on the Halo story. Why did they make a forerunner book????

Forerunner are supposed to be mysterious. I really dont want to know about them. It is supposed to be for imagination and stuff. But i guess screw that, they have to push game sales right? So i guess it really kind of honorable that Bungie has left Halo for this reason.

In fact thats how Halo 3 ended, GOOD GOOD ENDING, just open enough to let you wonder. MS says "screw that noise were gonna duct tape that ending to 3 new games coming out in 2 year increments". ugh.

Halo 4 doesnt exist.


Please write that in a context that a normal human being can understand, thanks.


hmm. what do you mean? i jumped from one point to another once or twice, but i separated my points. What did you not understand?

Man i am so checked out on the Halo story. Why did they make a forerunner book????

Forerunner are supposed to be mysterious. I really dont want to know about them. It is supposed to be for imagination and stuff. But i guess screw that, they have to push game sales right? So i guess it really kind of honorable that Bungie has left Halo for this reason.

In fact thats how Halo 3 ended, GOOD GOOD ENDING, just open enough to let you wonder. MS says "screw that noise were gonna duct tape that ending to 3 new games coming out in 2 year increments". ugh.

Halo 4 doesnt exist.

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What you posted is your opinion so you might want to change it a bit unless you wan't to start a flame war and Halo 4 exist's silly, obviously 343 loves the halo franchise and Microsoft loves to milk money from people, there is no better comparison between two subjects.

  • 08.12.2011 6:20 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
Man i am so checked out on the Halo story. Why did they make a forerunner book????

Forerunner are supposed to be mysterious. I really dont want to know about them. It is supposed to be for imagination and stuff. But i guess screw that, they have to push game sales right? So i guess it really kind of honorable that Bungie has left Halo for this reason.

In fact thats how Halo 3 ended, GOOD GOOD ENDING, just open enough to let you wonder. MS says "screw that noise were gonna duct tape that ending to 3 new games coming out in 2 year increments". ugh.

Halo 4 doesnt exist.


This takes the cake as one of the most retarded things I've ever read.

1) The Forerunners have ben "mysterious" for almost a decade, the mystery is getting old and they're no longer the force behind everyong, it's all about the Precursors. It's not supposed to be about your imagination, they're a central part of the canon that has to be unveiled at some point or other.

2) You realise that Bungie was going to unveil the Forerunners when they were considering Halo 4, right? They made the concept art of a Promethean and everything, the Forerunner Trilogy story has been planned for a long time.

3) How was Halo 3 left on a good ending with closure?
- Mendicant Bias tells John he's sending him to the Forerunners as proof of his atonement.

- John goes into cryo sleep, leaving Cortana to sit around and twiddle her thumbs whilst she goes rampant.

... Yeah, what a great ending.

4) 2 year intervals? The hell have you gotten that from? Halo 4 has been in development since mid-2009, there has been no word on the releases of the other Halo games.

You're talking a load of bollocks.

  • 08.12.2011 6:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
Man i am so checked out on the Halo story. Why did they make a forerunner book????

Forerunner are supposed to be mysterious. I really dont want to know about them. It is supposed to be for imagination and stuff. But i guess screw that, they have to push game sales right? So i guess it really kind of honorable that Bungie has left Halo for this reason.

In fact thats how Halo 3 ended, GOOD GOOD ENDING, just open enough to let you wonder. MS says "screw that noise were gonna duct tape that ending to 3 new games coming out in 2 year increments". ugh.

Halo 4 doesnt exist.


This takes the cake as one of the most retarded things I've ever read.

1) The Forerunners have ben "mysterious" for almost a decade, the mystery is getting old and they're no longer the force behind everyong, it's all about the Precursors. It's not supposed to be about your imagination, they're a central part of the canon that has to be unveiled at some point or other.

2) You realise that Bungie was going to unveil the Forerunners when they were considering Halo 4, right? They made the concept art of a Promethean and everything, the Forerunner Trilogy story has been planned for a long time.

3) How was Halo 3 left on a good ending with closure?
- Mendicant Bias tells John he's sending him to the Forerunners as proof of his atonement.

- John goes into cryo sleep, leaving Cortana to sit around and twiddle her thumbs whilst she goes rampant.

... Yeah, what a great ending.

4) 2 year intervals? The hell have you gotten that from? Halo 4 has been in development since mid-2009, there has been no word on the releases of the other Halo games.

You're talking a load of bollocks.


This is where I need a like button.

Edit: Cortana may have reached meta-stability, but it's currently unknown.

[Edited on 08.12.2011 6:29 AM PDT]

  • 08.12.2011 6:28 AM PDT

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its whatever.

I just hate seeing something i care about being milked, even just the story, i honestly enjoy the Halo story a lot.

plain and simple. Forced restarting of the Halo story is wholly unnecessary and it diluting all past installments' contribution's is imminent.

  • 08.12.2011 6:31 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
its whatever.

I just hate seeing something i care about being milked, even just the story, i honestly enjoy the Halo story a lot.

plain and simple. Forced restarting of the Halo story is wholly unnecessary and it diluting all past installments' contribution's is imminent.


Judging from your last post, you know next to nothing about the story.

It's not being milked at all, even if it was that doesn't matter as long as they can pull it off. If you enjoyed the Halo story, you'd understand that this new trilogy is actually necessary for any kind of closure which Bungie failed to do. The fact they were even considering doing Halo 4 before Reach proves that.

  • 08.12.2011 6:35 AM PDT

The Few, The True, The crew

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Apparently something i wrote before was retarded.

Real stories end man and if they dont you usually have to rewrite them to make a constant addition model make sense.

You say how the idea of the "mysterious forerunners" is getting old in the same sentence you praise how its all bout the precursors now? Are we going to wait 5 years then the precursors will be old and we will have the "foreprecursors"? because apparently mystery get old.

  • 08.12.2011 6:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
its whatever.

I just hate seeing something i care about being milked, even just the story, i honestly enjoy the Halo story a lot.

plain and simple. Forced restarting of the Halo story is wholly unnecessary and it diluting all past installments' contribution's is imminent.


Judging from your last post, you know next to nothing about the story.

It's not being milked at all, even if it was that doesn't matter as long as they can pull it off. If you enjoyed the Halo story, you'd understand that this new trilogy is actually necessary for any kind of closure which Bungie failed to do. The fact they were even considering doing Halo 4 before Reach proves that.


its just not true man. we may not know how far ahead of the curve they plan things. But at the beginning they were planning a trilogy all along and thats the truth. The books i read and the all the games i played pointed at that. As well as all the lore surrounding the 7 steps to world domination and countless vidoc's of them talking about the end at 3.

THE COVENANT is gone. THE EARTH is saved. THE FLOOD is purged from earth. This was the arch. whether it turns out to be good or not Halo 4 and everything after it is shoehorned.

[Edited on 08.12.2011 6:43 AM PDT]

  • 08.12.2011 6:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
Apparently something i wrote before was retarded.

Real stories end man and if they dont you usually have to rewrite them to make a constant addition model make sense.

You say how the idea of the "mysterious forerunners" is getting old in the same sentence you praise how its all bout the precursors now? Are we going to wait 5 years then the precursors will be old and we will have the "foreprecursors"? because apparently mystery get old.


Urgh... you apparently cannot read either.

Real stories end, yes they do. LOTR and Harry Potter are perfect examples of stories with ACTUAL CLOSURE, something that Halo never got.

I said the Precursors are the new mystery, they're relatively new to the Halo story - being mentioned once in the Bestiarum and only now is it that they're actually being developed.

Mystery does get old. Say you were watching Harry Potter and were wondering where Snape's true loyalties were, that's a mystery that had to be solved, as is the Forerunners as part of the canon because THEY ARE CENTRAL TO THE STORYLINE.

  • 08.12.2011 6:42 AM PDT

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The inability to read is also now added to my list of attributes.

Halo 3 did have closure. The closure that countless fantasy/scifi stories get. Open ended for the protagonist(who is supposed to be the reader/player in this kind of story).

LISTEN TO CORTANA, JUST LISTEN TO IT. The writers clearly made a point.She said its over, everything is done accept for where chief goes. Its a literary device.

check the ending to umm......"The Giver" for reference.

  • 08.12.2011 6:49 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
THE COVENANT is gone. THE EARTH is saved. THE FLOOD is purged from earth. This was the arch. whether it turns out to be good or not Halo 4 and everything after it is shoehorned.


That story has come to an end, but the Human-Covenant war was a tiny part of a much larger story. The Halo universe doesn't pivot around the H-C war, it revolves around Mendicant Bias who was the cause for so much in the Halo universe.

Halo 4, 5 and 6 is his story using John as his example of atonement. John's ACTUAL destiny, not just fighting aliens.

  • 08.12.2011 6:50 AM PDT

I posted this whole monologue a while ago

  • 08.12.2011 7:01 AM PDT

The Few, The True, The crew

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Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
THE COVENANT is gone. THE EARTH is saved. THE FLOOD is purged from earth. This was the arch. whether it turns out to be good or not Halo 4 and everything after it is shoehorned.


That story has come to an end, but the Human-Covenant war was a tiny part of a much larger story. The Halo universe doesn't pivot around the H-C war, it revolves around Mendicant Bias who was the cause for so much in the Halo universe.

Halo 4, 5 and 6 is his story using John as his example of atonement. John's ACTUAL destiny, not just fighting aliens.


Well, exalted is totally cooler than fabled.

  • 08.12.2011 7:05 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
THE COVENANT is gone. THE EARTH is saved. THE FLOOD is purged from earth. This was the arch. whether it turns out to be good or not Halo 4 and everything after it is shoehorned.


That story has come to an end, but the Human-Covenant war was a tiny part of a much larger story. The Halo universe doesn't pivot around the H-C war, it revolves around Mendicant Bias who was the cause for so much in the Halo universe.

Halo 4, 5 and 6 is his story using John as his example of atonement. John's ACTUAL destiny, not just fighting aliens.


Exactly. THANK YOU. I hate when people complain about the covenant or UNSC may not be in the next Halos. At least not in the way we are use to. But the first Halo trilogy was to tell the story of a piece of that war and how Humanity defeated the Covenant. Now it's about Humanity 'reclaiming' what is ours to defeat an ancient evil and to fulfill a sort of 'destiny'.

  • 08.12.2011 7:22 AM PDT


Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
Apparently something i wrote before was retarded.

Real stories end man and if they dont you usually have to rewrite them to make a constant addition model make sense.

You say how the idea of the "mysterious forerunners" is getting old in the same sentence you praise how its all bout the precursors now? Are we going to wait 5 years then the precursors will be old and we will have the "foreprecursors"? because apparently mystery get old.


Okay, read carefully:

First off, they've been setting us up for the Halo 4 story for years, ever since the IRIS campaign. To say it is unnecessary is, quite frankly, incredibly ignorant.

The Precursors embody the mystery race at this time, but their role in the story will be explained. It will be their culture, way of life and mythos that remain untouched, but what is being explained with the Forerunners.

343i has said on more then one occasion they have an end in sight for the Halo story. They know "what the last story will" be. It will likely end with Halo 6 and we can all be happy with the answers they give us.

  • 08.12.2011 7:56 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: ajw34307
2) You realise that Bungie was going to unveil the Forerunners when they were considering Halo 4, right? They made the concept art of a Promethean and everything, the Forerunner Trilogy story has been planned for a long time.

The Bestiarium also contains reference to the Builders on its Huragok page, in saying that the Huragok were creations of the Builders.


What is it with all this "Last true Reclaimer" nonsense?

  • 08.12.2011 8:15 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ajw34307
2) You realise that Bungie was going to unveil the Forerunners when they were considering Halo 4, right? They made the concept art of a Promethean and everything, the Forerunner Trilogy story has been planned for a long time.

The Bestiarium also contains reference to the Builders on its Huragok page, in saying that the Huragok were creations of the Builders.


What is it with all this "Last true Reclaimer" nonsense?


The Primordium summary

  • 08.12.2011 9:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
Apparently something i wrote before was retarded.

Real stories end man and if they dont you usually have to rewrite them to make a constant addition model make sense.

You say how the idea of the "mysterious forerunners" is getting old in the same sentence you praise how its all bout the precursors now? Are we going to wait 5 years then the precursors will be old and we will have the "foreprecursors"? because apparently mystery get old.


Okay, read carefully:

First off, they've been setting us up for the Halo 4 story for years, ever since the IRIS campaign. To say it is unnecessary is, quite frankly, incredibly ignorant.

The Precursors embody the mystery race at this time, but their role in the story will be explained. It will be their culture, way of life and mythos that remain untouched, but what is being explained with the Forerunners.

343i has said on more then one occasion they have an end in sight for the Halo story. They know "what the last story will" be. It will likely end with Halo 6 and we can all be happy with the answers they give us.


Yeah...heard that before. If 343 has an end in sight, then currently, Microsoft is in the process of building another dev team by the name of Rampancy, or something else Halo related. There series will end when it isn't making large amounts of money anymore. That's a sad truth for Halo, I think. It'll get to a point where the story is just run right into the ground and ends up ruining the entire Halo reputation.

Reach nearly pushed the limit already...for me anyway, with all the unnecessary canon changes that were made.

  • 08.12.2011 10:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: RavUKsoldier
I posted this whole monologue a while ago


Sorry about that, missed your post =[.

  • 08.13.2011 7:54 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ajw34307
2) You realise that Bungie was going to unveil the Forerunners when they were considering Halo 4, right? They made the concept art of a Promethean and everything, the Forerunner Trilogy story has been planned for a long time.

The Bestiarium also contains reference to the Builders on its Huragok page, in saying that the Huragok were creations of the Builders.


What is it with all this "Last true Reclaimer" nonsense?

The Primordium summary

I know where it comes from. I am asking what the point of it is. It sort of overwrites everything the franchise has been saying so far about Humanity's place in the Mantle. "Last True Reclaimer" implies that whoever this person is (Everyone assumes Master Chief) holds the only legitimate claim to the Mantle and the only true purpose in the grand scheme, and that everyone else is a charlatan essentially.

  • 08.13.2011 8:14 PM PDT

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