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Subject: Should default quoting be limited to the outermost quote?

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Posted by: Skibur
Solution: Do it yourself... I have for the last 7+ years. I even format other peoples quotes correctly when I quote them...

I am a stickler for neat posts.
Not quite. OPs proposal would require removing the contents of quote tags within a post. It would be a pain to copy and paste and fix all the links and formatting...

  • 08.14.2011 3:26 AM PDT

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[Edited on 08.14.2011 3:30 AM PDT]

  • 08.14.2011 3:29 AM PDT

Does anyone even read these?

I would like an option to quote last, but maybe not have it as the only option.

But then no one would use it unless it was the only option. I don't really care all that much either way, but it's a good idea.

  • 08.14.2011 3:29 AM PDT

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No, acnboy. Spartain Ken 15 is a lesser being. Much like the bacteria that lives in your shi­t.
Posted by: mike120593
My shi­t bacteria takes offense to that comparison.

Don't make me lel. You won't like me when I lel.

Make it an option, not a default.

Also anyone who writes first and has the quote beneath their reply should be shot.

  • 08.14.2011 3:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: BadBall3r47
I would like an option to quote last, but maybe not have it as the only option.

But then no one would use it unless it was the only option. I don't really care all that much either way, but it's a good idea.

Any idea is a good one. I like it being optional

  • 08.14.2011 3:59 AM PDT

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Yes. I get a headache trying to read more then two quotes in one post.

  • 08.14.2011 4:07 AM PDT

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It could be sueful as a toggle option, Skibur makes the good point that discussions are important.

  • 08.14.2011 5:18 AM PDT

Posted by: Dropship dude
No, acnboy. Spartain Ken 15 is a lesser being. Much like the bacteria that lives in your shi­t.
Posted by: mike120593
My shi­t bacteria takes offense to that comparison.

Don't make me lel. You won't like me when I lel.

Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Explain yourself.
Posted by: random no337
Make it an option, not a default.

Also anyone who writes first and has the quote beneath their reply should be shot.
It's completely counter-intuitive (you read TOP to BOTTOM) and makes quote trees all retarded when there's that one guy quoting under his text.

[Edited on 08.15.2011 6:25 AM PDT]

  • 08.15.2011 5:36 AM PDT

I think that is a good idea, as I hate when I get the "cannot quote more than 5 strings together" (or something like that) as I am usually too lazy to just manually quote the last person.

  • 08.15.2011 5:48 AM PDT

We were somewhere around Barstow...

Posted by: Skibur
This is quote a bad idea.

Is that your attempt at a pun? It's disgustingly awful.

[Edited on 08.15.2011 5:51 AM PDT]

  • 08.15.2011 5:51 AM PDT

Quote pyramids are already limited to 5. I don't see a need to restrict it any further.

In fact, there have been many times when I would have preferred to keep a quote chain going for the purpose of continuity, but had to remove one of the posts just so it didn't exceed 5.

  • 08.15.2011 6:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

No.

It's better how it is. And you can read conversations or arguments in the threads easier.

  • 08.15.2011 6:14 AM PDT
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Posted by: dazarobbo
For the sake of brevity, I propose that quoting a post which contains a quote with nesting deeper than one level, have its inner quotes removed and only the outermost quotes remain.


I think this is a bad idea, mostly because of this...

Posted by: Skibur
Most of the time what was quoted in the quote that you're quoting is the relevant quote for your quote to quote.


I've always taken the extra 5 seconds of my time to properly format anything I'm quoting. If I'm only responding to a specific part of a post, I delete the irrelevant parts. I do agree that the forums sometimes get a tad messy because of quoting, but that's squarely on the shoulders of us forum users and not anything on the technical side of it. If you want me to put in the effort to read your post, you need to put in the effort to clean it up. Whether it's editing a quote or a quick spell-check, if each person takes a little of the responsibility on their own shoulders, it will go a long way to making this place a little more pretty.

  • 08.15.2011 6:35 AM PDT
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I have no qualms with the current system.

  • 08.15.2011 6:50 AM PDT

Almost a ghost.

Sometimes you need to see the whole conversation to understand exactly what a user means. I can imagine more than a few quotes that would come across completely different if you didn't see what it was in reply to.

  • 08.15.2011 6:55 AM PDT

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I honestly don't mind the current system. Yes, it would make threads look cleaner, but it would make some discussion turn into "wait, wait? You didn't say that!" "Yes I did, scroll up" posts.

I am pretty neutral about this. Personally I read about 90% of the posts in a thread before replying to it so I have an idea of whats happening. Daz your idea has pros and cons to it.

:/

  • 08.15.2011 7:12 AM PDT

Posted by: Big Black Bear
Quote pyramids are already limited to 5. I don't see a need to restrict it any further.

In fact, there have been many times when I would have preferred to keep a quote chain going for the purpose of continuity, but had to remove one of the posts just so it didn't exceed 5.
I'm not referring to the nested quote restriction. I'm talking about hitting the quote button and it [by default] only including the outermost quote, thereby keeping the post that's being created directly related the included quote. If you want to chop-and-change, that's fine, but that's what I find myself having to do most of the time just to make a reply to someone who has quoted a handful of quotes.

  • 08.15.2011 8:16 AM PDT

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Big Black Bear
Quote pyramids are already limited to 5. I don't see a need to restrict it any further.

In fact, there have been many times when I would have preferred to keep a quote chain going for the purpose of continuity, but had to remove one of the posts just so it didn't exceed 5.
I'm not referring to the nested quote restriction. I'm talking about hitting the quote button and it [by default] only including the outermost quote, thereby keeping the post that's being created directly related the included quote. If you want to chop-and-change, that's fine, but that's what I find myself having to do most of the time just to make a reply to someone who has quoted a handful of quotes.
So you're just talking about the default behaviour... Okay, I get it now.

Honestly, though, I tend to maintain the entire thread of comments (like I've done here) much more often than I have the need to edit the thread. I suppose that behaviour varies from one usert to the next, though.

That being said.... It's much easier to eliminate all the inner quotes manually than it would be to add them back in with the method you are proposing.

  • 08.15.2011 8:55 AM PDT

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I always cut mine down like that anyway.

I don't know if it should be the way of things though.

  • 08.15.2011 9:04 AM PDT

Hi.

Don't care either way. Both ways would have their annoyances.

  • 08.15.2011 9:06 AM PDT

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I'd like for it to include the five going out to in. If I quote a block of quotes, I normally want to draw from the included conversation, and it gets frustrating to sift through the quotes to delete the inner few that block it off from being posted.

  • 08.15.2011 9:06 AM PDT
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Yo Halo53, I'm real happy for you and I'ma let you finish, but Beyonce had one of the best bungie.net profiles of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Unless youre referring to adding an additional button, so you have the traditional quote button and a "just the newest post" quote button, which actually would be a useful addition.

  • 08.15.2011 9:07 AM PDT

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