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Subject: Tyranids vs. Zerg. vs. Flood vs. Xenomorphs vs. Necromorphs?

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Posted by: FTW 1997

And i couldnt understand what psychic powers are....is it something like mental powers ?


A bit like. If I'd need to explain it in few words, I could call it magic ( in space! ). Connection to the warp is a requirement here, and the powers are drawn from there. Sometimes the user knows what he / she is doing and is capably of doing quite nasty things in enormous scale from throwing firebolts to scratching fingers ---> that cruiser you just saw there exploded.

It's quite big thing to be explained in small text, but for someone who doesn't know about it, that could be fast explanation.

If you want to know more, go right here! my friend.


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Breathing the air of an infected area can infect you as well (spores). Do Tyranids breath?


Most likely it depends on the species of Tyranids. Some of them propably dont, some of them propably will. Looking that they travel with their hivefleets through empty space, I could make a wild guess that most of them dont have to or they're in hibernation during travelling.


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  • 08.14.2011 10:54 AM PDT

Yes, but only if they haven't already adapted to the infection

  • 08.14.2011 10:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Well, its been revealed that physical contact with a Flood, alive or dead, can infect you just as well. The infection forms are becoming more of a byproduct of the FSC's need to quickly swarm and make physical contact, rather then being the only way to infect.

Breathing the air of an infected area can infect you as well (spores). Do Tyranids breath?


If I recall, they do, but I imagine it wouldn't take long at all for the Hive Fleets to bioengineer a filtration system that negated the spores, would work well enough.

They might very well produce their own gases required for breathing, symbiotic relationship with even smaller Tyranid organisms, perhaps.

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  • 08.14.2011 10:58 AM PDT

I can't believe this argument is going on. How do you even consider flood a possible victor of this battle.

Lets put it this way. You have an extremely efficient war Sphinx or whatever the hell they are called. It completely lays waste to thyranid forces and is holding its own.

Two minutes later another sphinx is killed in a battle on the other side of the planet. Now the whole thyranid race knows your sphinx weaknesses and how to kill it. Once one thyranid figures something out about your strongest weapons weakness the whole bloody race knows it.

The swarmlord, I think that is what it is called has eons of battlefield expierence can be resurrected if killed, and makes all other thyranids in combat have actual battle field strategies.

Flood cannot beat a race that is evolving BY THE HOUR to become more efficient. A race that god knows how many galaxies it has devoured. This argument is invalid even forerunner flood infected ships couldn't do anything against against a fleet numbering easily in the trillions.

I wish a bungie employee would step in and just say I am sorry but thyranids would destroy flood already. The longer this lasts the more people think the flood could actually win :/

  • 08.14.2011 12:25 PM PDT
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You obviously havnt read what we posted before and btw I'm tierd of correcting people...the flood learns everything instantly...they are the best stratigsts Possible because they get knowledge from their victims...and by the way the flood has quadrillions of ships that are forerunner and forerunner ships are superior ...and we have all agreed that if flood can infect them then tyranids then they are totally doomed ...even if they adopt to flood the flood will find a way to infect them whatever they do...the flood always finds a way to get around the defense ...read all the posts before like I did and then post.

  • 08.14.2011 1:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: FTW 1997
You obviously havnt read what we posted before and btw I'm tierd of correcting people...the flood learns everything instantly...they are the best stratigsts Possible because they get knowledge from their victims...and by the way the flood has quadrillions of ships that are forerunner and forerunner ships are superior ...and we have all agreed that if flood can infect them then tyranids then they are totally doomed ...even if they adopt to flood the flood will find a way to infect them whatever they do...the flood always finds a way to get around the defense ...read all the posts before like I did and then post.


The Flood don't learn it instantly, it takes time to assimilate and understand the information, even for the Flood, on top of this, an individual Tyranid is little more than a mindless beast, there's nothing to learn from them.
Saying the Flood always find a way is pointless, really. It could equally be said that the Tyranids nigh on always find a way to adapt.
Also, I highly doubt that the Flood have quadrillions of Forerunner ships, I find it hard to imagine that the Forerunners created more ships than they had people, even trillions of full sized ships is hard to process.

  • 08.14.2011 1:33 PM PDT


Posted by: FTW 1997
You obviously havnt read what we posted before and btw I'm tierd of correcting people...the flood learns everything instantly...they are the best stratigsts Possible because they get knowledge from their victims...and by the way the flood has quadrillions of ships that are forerunner and forerunner ships are superior ...and we have all agreed that if flood can infect them then tyranids then they are totally doomed ...even if they adopt to flood the flood will find a way to infect them whatever they do...the flood always finds a way to get around the defense ...read all the posts before like I did and then post.
Ok lets set some things straight....

I have read everything and all you guys are arguing is that A. Forerunner ships are so awesome they kill everything and B. The flood could assimilate thyranids. That is the gist of what I read.

Flood don't learn everything they discard almost everything except some key things like how to fire a gun or some crap like that. Now look at the Thyranids they learn and adapt they are constantly striving for genetic perfection. Their link to the hive mind is so great that once even a low caste thyranid finds a weakness in something the WHOLE THYRANID RACE KNOWS IT.

The flood do not have quadrillions of ships. There aren't even that many forunners let alone ships.
Most of the forerunner ships encountered during many battles were just regular ships like barges so of those many ships the flood had I wouldn't think that many were actual warships(I may be wrong).

To the people spouting that pure forms were gaint lumbering beasts that destroyed cities. Thyranids have many many huge gaint monsters that are equivelent to pure forms. Flood have to have ships to use so they can infact and travel with. Thyranids don't. Not only that they have trillions upon trillions of ships, they still outnumber the flood. I don't think flood would be smart enough to activated the halo array or make stars go supernova.

tl;dr: Everything the flood can do thyranids do better.

  • 08.14.2011 1:55 PM PDT


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Posted by: FTW 1997
You obviously havnt read what we posted before and btw I'm tierd of correcting people...the flood learns everything instantly...they are the best stratigsts Possible because they get knowledge from their victims...and by the way the flood has quadrillions of ships that are forerunner and forerunner ships are superior ...and we have all agreed that if flood can infect them then tyranids then they are totally doomed ...even if they adopt to flood the flood will find a way to infect them whatever they do...the flood always finds a way to get around the defense ...read all the posts before like I did and then post.
Ok lets set some things straight....

I have read everything and all you guys are arguing is that A. Forerunner ships are so awesome they kill everything and B. The flood could assimilate thyranids. That is the gist of what I read.

Flood don't learn everything they discard almost everything except some key things like how to fire a gun or some crap like that. Now look at the Thyranids they learn and adapt they are constantly striving for genetic perfection. Their link to the hive mind is so great that once even a low caste thyranid finds a weakness in something the WHOLE THYRANID RACE KNOWS IT.

The flood do not have quadrillions of ships. There aren't even that many forunners let alone ships.
Most of the forerunner ships encountered during many battles were just regular ships like barges so of those many ships the flood had I wouldn't think that many were actual warships(I may be wrong).

To the people spouting that pure forms were gaint lumbering beasts that destroyed cities. Thyranids have many many huge gaint monsters that are equivelent to pure forms. Flood have to have ships to use so they can infact and travel with. Thyranids don't. Not only that they have trillions upon trillions of ships, they still outnumber the flood. I don't think flood would be smart enough to activated the halo array or make stars go supernova.

tl;dr: Everything the flood can do thyranids do better.


^^fanboy

Okay, so here we go

1) Of course its the gist. You don't post specific evidence and points in writing a gist of something.

2) Congratulations, you just described the Flood. Do you know what the term "macrorganism" means? The Flood is not a race of beings, they are more of a singular, super-creature with one, over-ruling consciousness called Gravemind. That consciousness has no real physical form. The giant plant we see in Halo 2 is an organ it uses to speak verbally, though it doesn't need it.

3) This is where the fanboy stuff comes in. "The flood do not have quadrillions of ships. There aren't even that many forunners let alone ships."

Prove it. The Forerunners had 3million fully populated worlds, and the Forerunners themselves were artificially immortal. The only time they ever die is "if by war or a fatal accident." The Librarian for example was more then 10,000 years old but the only word Born could find to describe her was "youth."

Just as well, to prove the trillions of ships thing, the following passage is describing a Forerunner quarentine system, blockading the Prophet homeworld. "Now, however, ten thousand years after their defeat, the system was surrounded by trillions of vigilants that constantly wove in and out of space-time, sometimes so rapidly they seemed to shape a solid sphere." (pg. 144, Cryptum).

And the Flood used warships as a defensive meassure. They used civillian vessels as battering rams to forcefully infect Forerunner ships, so as not to lose any warships in the process.

4) Well your usage of the word " may have giant monsters equal to the Pure Forms" tells me that they in fact do not have any confirmed to be that size. Under your logic, the Flood suddenly have a monster the size of a planet that flings moons and even stars at its enemies.

See? I can assume things too.

The Flood have their own means of traveling naturally through space. Read Soma The Painter.

Yes. So do the Flood. Trillions of ships/space based weapons. And have you read the calculated intelligence of the Gravemind? If you have and still believe him to be unintellegent enough to shoot the cannons on a Forerunner warship (the weapons that destroy stars) then there is simply no talking to you.

6) tl;dr: Everything the flood can do thyranids do better

Not helping your case, just making you look like a raging fanboy.

  • 08.14.2011 2:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Just as well, to prove the trillions of ships thing, the following passage is describing a Forerunner quarentine system, blockading the Prophet homeworld. "Now, however, ten thousand years after their defeat, the system was surrounded by trillions of vigilants that constantly wove in and out of space-time, sometimes so rapidly they seemed to shape a solid sphere." (pg. 144, Cryptum).


Whilst I'm now fully aware that the Forerunners did have a vast fleet, "Vigilants were tiny Forerunner probes capable of entry into slipspace". There's a big difference between a spaceworthy object and a threatening craft.
When the enemy has similar numbers, but of a more pronounced individual threat level. I'm assuming these vigilants used swarm tactics if in offense mode.

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  • 08.14.2011 2:42 PM PDT

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Two minutes later another sphinx is killed in a battle on the other side of the planet. Now the whole thyranid race knows your sphinx weaknesses and how to kill it. Once one thyranid figures something out about your strongest weapons weakness the whole bloody race knows it.

Millions of Nids are destroyed before even touching a flight capable War Sphinx.
That sphinx is capable of decimating cities.It could go in outerspace,so how would the majority of the nids even touch it if the bulk of the nids rely on close combat attacks.
And what are you trying to prove here?That the nids will suddenly destroy a fast moving craft with massive firepower unmatched when comparing them with 40k infantry units?

The swarmlord, I think that is what it is called has eons of battlefield expierence can be resurrected if killed, and makes all other thyranids in combat have actual battle field strategies.

You just described the Gravemind -_-

Best thing is that the Gravemind = the Flood

Flood cannot beat a race that is evolving BY THE HOUR to become more efficient. A race that god knows how many galaxies it has devoured. This argument is invalid even forerunner flood infected ships couldn't do anything against against a fleet numbering easily in the trillions.

The Flood don't only evolve,but they can also create any form to mimic other.
You say the nids evolve every hour...evolve in what exactly?

The Flood don't learn it instantly, it takes time to assimilate and understand the information, even for the Flood, on top of this, an individual Tyranid is little more than a mindless beast, there's nothing to learn from them.

Considering that the Flood get the knowledge of the host the instant they infect it,the gravemind can instantly process it. Remember teh Flood= teh mind

Flood don't learn everything they discard almost everything except some key things like how to fire a gun or some crap like that. Now look at the Thyranids they learn and adapt they are constantly striving for genetic perfection. Their link to the hive mind is so great that once even a low caste thyranid finds a weakness in something the WHOLE THYRANID RACE KNOWS IT.

Wrong
From the Mona Lisa pg 143

"It'll wipe his memories but retain his knowledge."


Sooo they do learn everything the host knows.

From Human weakness pg 249

"That is from the memory of creatures who lived in this forest," the Gravemind said soothingly. "This is what they sensed.They still exist in me, as will you,and all organics you serve-and who have abandoned you."


-That's what the -blam!- Flood does. The moment they consume a host all knowledge goes into the Gravemind. The mind has the knowledge of the entire galaxy,maybe even the entire universe thx the Precursors because there are connections between the mind and the Timeless One,they even might be the same.

The Flood supercell adapts to any threat.Throw an aerial vehicle at the Flood and the supercell creates an anti unit.

To the people spouting that pure forms were gaint lumbering beasts that destroyed cities. Thyranids have many many huge gaint monsters that are equivelent to pure forms. Flood have to have ships to use so they can infact and travel with. Thyranids don't. Not only that they have trillions upon trillions of ships, they still outnumber the flood. I don't think flood would be smart enough to activated the halo array or make stars go supernova.

Is there a nid form the size of spaceships(excluding their bioships)?
Do the nids have an equivelant of the Flood supercell.
I would like to have a source on their fleet size,not that i'm doubting you but just playing safe.

Wut both the Flood and nids need starships to travel from any point to another unless you understood you wrong.
The Flood don't need to activate the array,they can fire it at low power if they want which means they can tune the area of effect down to just a planet or a starsystem.

tl;dr: Everything the flood can do thyranids do better.

Not true,but the nids do have some dangerous high numbers i give you that.

Question: Is it true that if the hive mind dies then all of the nids either die or become leaderless like the feral Flood







  • 08.14.2011 2:47 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: RU551NSP4RT4N

Posted by: FTW 1997
You obviously havnt read what we posted before and btw I'm tierd of correcting people...the flood learns everything instantly...they are the best stratigsts Possible because they get knowledge from their victims...and by the way the flood has quadrillions of ships that are forerunner and forerunner ships are superior ...and we have all agreed that if flood can infect them then tyranids then they are totally doomed ...even if they adopt to flood the flood will find a way to infect them whatever they do...the flood always finds a way to get around the defense ...read all the posts before like I did and then post.
Ok lets set some things straight....

I have read everything and all you guys are arguing is that A. Forerunner ships are so awesome they kill everything and B. The flood could assimilate thyranids. That is the gist of what I read.

Flood don't learn everything they discard almost everything except some key things like how to fire a gun or some crap like that. Now look at the Thyranids they learn and adapt they are constantly striving for genetic perfection. Their link to the hive mind is so great that once even a low caste thyranid finds a weakness in something the WHOLE THYRANID RACE KNOWS IT.

The flood do not have quadrillions of ships. There aren't even that many forunners let alone ships.
Most of the forerunner ships encountered during many battles were just regular ships like barges so of those many ships the flood had I wouldn't think that many were actual warships(I may be wrong).

To the people spouting that pure forms were gaint lumbering beasts that destroyed cities. Thyranids have many many huge gaint monsters that are equivelent to pure forms. Flood have to have ships to use so they can infact and travel with. Thyranids don't. Not only that they have trillions upon trillions of ships, they still outnumber the flood. I don't think flood would be smart enough to activated the halo array or make stars go supernova.

tl;dr: Everything the flood can do thyranids do better.


^^fanboy

Okay, so here we go

1) Of course its the gist. You don't post specific evidence and points in writing a gist of something.

2) Congratulations, you just described the Flood. Do you know what the term "macrorganism" means? The Flood is not a race of beings, they are more of a singular, super-creature with one, over-ruling consciousness called Gravemind. That consciousness has no real physical form. The giant plant we see in Halo 2 is an organ it uses to speak verbally, though it doesn't need it.

3) This is where the fanboy stuff comes in. "The flood do not have quadrillions of ships. There aren't even that many forunners let alone ships."

Prove it. The Forerunners had 3million fully populated worlds, and the Forerunners themselves were artificially immortal. The only time they ever die is "if by war or a fatal accident." The Librarian for example was more then 10,000 years old but the only word Born could find to describe her was "youth."

Just as well, to prove the trillions of ships thing, the following passage is describing a Forerunner quarentine system, blockading the Prophet homeworld. "Now, however, ten thousand years after their defeat, the system was surrounded by trillions of vigilants that constantly wove in and out of space-time, sometimes so rapidly they seemed to shape a solid sphere." (pg. 144, Cryptum).

And the Flood used warships as a defensive meassure. They used civillian vessels as battering rams to forcefully infect Forerunner ships, so as not to lose any warships in the process.

4) Well your usage of the word " may have giant monsters equal to the Pure Forms" tells me that they in fact do not have any confirmed to be that size. Under your logic, the Flood suddenly have a monster the size of a planet that flings moons and even stars at its enemies.

See? I can assume things too.

The Flood have their own means of traveling naturally through space. Read Soma The Painter.

Yes. So do the Flood. Trillions of ships/space based weapons. And have you read the calculated intelligence of the Gravemind? If you have and still believe him to be unintellegent enough to shoot the cannons on a Forerunner warship (the weapons that destroy stars) then there is simply no talking to you.

6) tl;dr: Everything the flood can do thyranids do better

Not helping your case, just making you look like a raging fanboy.



Says the raging fanboy.

I can confirm that tyranids do indeed have aliens the size of pure forms, and larger. Look up biotitans.

Next, the 'ship's' involved in the san'shyuum quarantine were not ships, but sentinel like constructs, which would easily be taken down by the mass if tyranid ships both inside and outside the galaxy. They were tiny robot like things. Nothing against tyranids.

The tyranids are also a macroorganism in that sense, as the hive mind has no physical form outside of incredibly elite tyranids such as swarmlords, which are virtually invincible in combat and if killed come back with further experience and knowledge.

It is up to the claimant to provide the proof, so please prove that the forerunners had quadrillions of warships.

Have you ever read the power of the hive mind? All but the most powerful psyker have tried to contact it and died violently.

Tl;dr although this fanboy doesn't understand the claimant-proof concept, anything the flood can do the tyranids still do better. Especially since that without forerunners, the flood is nothing, and the tyranids have psykers, which can screw up any forerunner tech .

[Edited on 08.14.2011 3:04 PM PDT]

  • 08.14.2011 2:51 PM PDT

The entire tyranid fleet is basically the size of a galaxy. He meant that tyranids have their own ships, while flood need to steal them.

And the hive mind can't die, it's an immensely powerful psychic entity, synapse creatures can but there are loads of those and easily enough to broadcast the will of the hive mind.
Also the flood will learn nothing from an infected nid, assuming it could infect it in the first place, as nids are just mindless beasts with the hivemind having a grip over it's actions.

  • 08.14.2011 2:56 PM PDT

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I'd have to say Tyranids.

  • 08.14.2011 2:58 PM PDT

The nids don't have a supercell equivalent, but they don't infect. The nids rapidly evolve to get the most efficient form possible, ie after a day of taking forerunner laser fire, suddenly all the tyranids have chitin armour which is resistant to lasers.

  • 08.14.2011 2:59 PM PDT

Also, a million nids is like the grains of sand in a sandcastle compared to the grains on a beach, and they don't just revolve around cc attacks, if you knew anythig about nids then you would know that.

  • 08.14.2011 3:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
The Flood don't learn it instantly, it takes time to assimilate and understand the information, even for the Flood, on top of this, an individual Tyranid is little more than a mindless beast, there's nothing to learn from them.

1- Considering that the Flood get the knowledge of the host the instant they infect it,the gravemind can instantly process it. Remember teh Flood= teh mind

2- The Flood supercell adapts to any threat.Throw an aerial vehicle at the Flood and the supercell creates an anti unit.

3- Is there a nid form the size of spaceships(excluding their bioships)?

4- I would like to have a source on their fleet size,not that i'm doubting you but just playing safe.


5- Question: Is it true that if the hive mind dies then all of the nids either die or become leaderless like the feral Flood


1- Well, going off Halo: The Flood, they don't do it instantly. It took time to take apart Captain Keyes.

2- The way you've described the Flood Super Cell pretty much describes the Tyranid horde.

3- Their bioships are Tyranids, so yes, they do get that size. But, there're also "titan scale" organisms, that are atmosphere locked, but could rival the size of smaller crafts, potentially larger ones too.

4- Quoted directly from the fourth edition Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook: "Tyranid hive fleets consist of millions of sentient crafts, each home to untold numbers of monstrosities evolved from the bubbling geno-organs of the ship's reproductive chambers." Now, there've been 22 recorded Hive Fleets having reached the galaxy, three of which are described as major (Some of the others are smaller than the general description) and this is just the very tendrils of the fleet, as can be seen here http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0y2seqEPuOs/TDJcOKSUqGI/AAAAAAAAAUo /dpEYeUi69KE/s1600/Tyranids_incursions.jpg .

5- The Tyranid Hive Mind is a combination of the psychic presence of every Tyranid organism, to kill the Hive Mind, you must kill them all.

Really, the only "Big Picture" difference between the Flood and the Tyranids is their method of consumption. The Flood control and use, the Tyranids destroy and absorb. They both have similar ways of overcoming difficulties and a similar mindset.

Also, I question whether the Gravemind is infact omnipresent within the Flood forces, seeing as the Flood on Installation 04 are described as Feral and are creating their own Gravemind, whilst there is simultaneously a Gravemind present on Installation 05.

[Edited on 08.14.2011 3:17 PM PDT]

  • 08.14.2011 3:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
The Flood don't learn it instantly, it takes time to assimilate and understand the information, even for the Flood, on top of this, an individual Tyranid is little more than a mindless beast, there's nothing to learn from them.

1- Considering that the Flood get the knowledge of the host the instant they infect it,the gravemind can instantly process it. Remember teh Flood= teh mind

2- The Flood supercell adapts to any threat.Throw an aerial vehicle at the Flood and the supercell creates an anti unit.

3- Is there a nid form the size of spaceships(excluding their bioships)?

4- I would like to have a source on their fleet size,not that i'm doubting you but just playing safe.


5- Question: Is it true that if the hive mind dies then all of the nids either die or become leaderless like the feral Flood


1- Well, going off Halo: The Flood, they don't do it instantly. It took time to take apart Captain Keyes.

2- The way you've described the Flood Super Cell pretty much describes the Tyranid horde.

3- Their bioships are Tyranids, so yes, they do get that size. But, there're also "titan scale" organisms, that are atmosphere locked, but could rival the size of smaller crafts, potentially larger ones too.

4- Quoted directly from the fourth edition Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook: "Tyranid hive fleets consist of millions of sentient crafts, each home to untold numbers of monstrosities evolved from the bubbling geno-organs of the ship's reproductive chambers." Now, there've been 22 recorded Hive Fleets having reached the galaxy, three of which are described as major (Some of the others are smaller than the general description) and this is just the very tendrils of the fleet, as can be seen here http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0y2seqEPuOs/TDJcOKSUqGI/AAAAAAAAAUo /dpEYeUi69KE/s1600/Tyranids_incursions.jpg .

5- The Tyranid Hive Mind is a combination of the psychic presence of every Tyranid organism, to kill the Hive Mind, you must kill them all.

Really, the only "Big Picture" difference between the Flood and the Tyranids is their method of consumption. The Flood control and use, the Tyranids destroy and absorb. They both have similar ways of overcoming difficulties and a similar mindset.

Also, I question whether the Gravemind is infact omnipresent within the Flood forces, seeing as the Flood on Installation 04 are described as Feral and are creating their own Gravemind, whilst there is simultaneously a Gravemind present on Installation 05.


1.When there is a Gravemind then it get's transferred instantly.

2.Proof?

3.Okay

4.Thank you
But millions isn't close to trillions as someone said,unless the guy refers to individual units and not spaceships.

5.We don't know if the Gravemind already was built at 05 during the events of 04. That has bugging me too,my explanation is either that Bungie didn't had a story in mind yet that a Gravemind would appear on 05.
Read this:
http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/intel/related/text/flood/0b36c2b2-9 0a1-474f-9d34-739ec6ccd6e3

  • 08.14.2011 3:40 PM PDT

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Face the facts, Flood is only winning cause you're posting it on a HALO website. Derp. The Necromorphs or the Zerg in my opinion are more terrorizing threats.

  • 08.14.2011 3:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II

1.When there is a Gravemind then it get's transferred instantly.

2.Proof?

3.Okay

4.Thank you
But millions isn't close to trillions as someone said,unless the guy refers to individual units and not spaceships.

5.We don't know if the Gravemind already was built at 05 during the events of 04. That has bugging me too,my explanation is either that Bungie didn't had a story in mind yet that a Gravemind would appear on 05.
Read this:
http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/intel/related/text/flood/0b36c2b2-9 0a1-474f-9d34-739ec6ccd6e3

1- Well, again, referring to the Gravemind already present on Installation 05
2- I don't have a direct quote on me, but weapons that prove effective against Tyranids rapidly decrease in effectiveness, as their biology changes to counter the damage, on a macro-organic level, not individual.
4- Millions isn't close to trillions, no, but that's one Hive Fleet, when you look at how tiny the tendrils that are actually within the galaxy are, it can be inferred that the total number could quite possibly be in the trillions upon trillions though, especially when even that galaxy map only shows the edges of the Tyranid's incoming.
5- Considering how immensely large the Gravemind was (Tendril size etc. etc.) and how short a period the Covenant and Humans were there, I assume it's been there are a heck of a long time. But, we don't really know enough to truly say much about this.

On the link, I've read the Bestarium before, I'm not quite sure why I'm being shown it here.

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  • 08.14.2011 3:49 PM PDT

Oh hey there

Posted by: petarded2
It's a metaphor for the 07s' lack of identity. too old to be newfa­g, yet too new to be oldfa­g, we wander b.net in search of a home, forever trying to be something we are not.

I'd go with Flood. It's the whole zombie argument only they are strong and fast.

  • 08.14.2011 4:20 PM PDT

Tyranids easily, and for a very simple reason too.

They -blam!- Space Marines up. And we're not talking about the little greens and blues of Halo and starcraft respectively, we're talking about the demi-gods of the battlefield which the Warhammer 40,000 universe is more or less centered around.

They are the best of the very best as far as far as fiction is concerned, and for them to take it from another foe puts that foe in a league of their own entirely.

[Edited on 08.14.2011 5:26 PM PDT]

  • 08.14.2011 5:24 PM PDT

Corn, Oil, and Wine... We need more wine...

...Why are the Borg not represented here? :(

  • 08.14.2011 5:29 PM PDT