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Subject: Who's your Favorite Spartan of all time????!!!!

@ajw34307

LAWL! So he can save teams from dying, fair enough, great skill indeed. Still, this makes him the BEST how?

  • 08.16.2011 3:16 AM PDT

When in doubt, NoScope.

You are all forgetting the Spartan that isnt a spartan.

Johnson.

Lets be honest, he rivals MC and Kurt on the Badass scale.

And as an added bonus, Johnson and Keyes were the only one allowed to smoke in the entire trilogy. :P

  • 08.16.2011 3:20 AM PDT


Posted by: NoScopeLex
You are all forgetting the Spartan that isnt a spartan.

Johnson.

Lets be honest, he rivals MC and Kurt on the Badass scale.

And as an added bonus, Johnson and Keyes were the only one allowed to smoke in the entire trilogy. :P


Johnson was part of ORION project that was renamed the SPARTAN-I Project. So Johnson is actually a Spartan.

  • 08.16.2011 3:22 AM PDT

When in doubt, NoScope.


Posted by: Surperion93

Posted by: NoScopeLex
You are all forgetting the Spartan that isnt a spartan.

Johnson.

Lets be honest, he rivals MC and Kurt on the Badass scale.

And as an added bonus, Johnson and Keyes were the only one allowed to smoke in the entire trilogy. :P


Johnson was part of ORION project that was renamed the SPARTAN-I Project. So Johnson is actually a Spartan.


But no one ever really counts it. Im glad you're one of the few that do. xD

  • 08.16.2011 3:24 AM PDT


Posted by: NoScopeLex

Posted by: Surperion93

Posted by: NoScopeLex
You are all forgetting the Spartan that isnt a spartan.

Johnson.

Lets be honest, he rivals MC and Kurt on the Badass scale.

And as an added bonus, Johnson and Keyes were the only one allowed to smoke in the entire trilogy. :P


Johnson was part of ORION project that was renamed the SPARTAN-I Project. So Johnson is actually a Spartan.


But no one ever really counts it. Im glad you're one of the few that do. xD


Johnson is badass, why wouldn't I? LOL.

  • 08.16.2011 3:25 AM PDT
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  • 08.16.2011 3:48 AM PDT

When in doubt, NoScope.


Posted by: Surperion93

Posted by: NoScopeLex

Posted by: Surperion93

Posted by: NoScopeLex
You are all forgetting the Spartan that isnt a spartan.

Johnson.

Lets be honest, he rivals MC and Kurt on the Badass scale.

And as an added bonus, Johnson and Keyes were the only one allowed to smoke in the entire trilogy. :P


Johnson was part of ORION project that was renamed the SPARTAN-I Project. So Johnson is actually a Spartan.


But no one ever really counts it. Im glad you're one of the few that do. xD


Johnson is badass, why wouldn't I? LOL.


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  • 08.16.2011 3:51 AM PDT

well apparently Spartan 117 won with 66% cuz he lived through more then any spartan in history cuz he is clearly the best sorry guys n girls

  • 08.16.2011 4:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: Surperion93
@ajw34307

LAWL! So he can save teams from dying, fair enough, great skill indeed. Still, this makes him the BEST how?


You really don't get it, do you?

He's outwitted John and his team numerous times, he's precognitive which allows him to see things before they happen, and was chosen out of all other Spartan-IIs to train 930 new Spartans because he was the best candidate.

If you're picking someone to train a new generation of Spartans, you pick the best to train them.

You're in denial. crai moar

  • 08.16.2011 4:04 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Surperion93
@ajw34307

LAWL! So he can save teams from dying, fair enough, great skill indeed. Still, this makes him the BEST how?


You really don't get it, do you?

He's outwitted John and his team numerous times, he's precognitive which allows him to see things before they happen, and was chosen out of all other Spartan-IIs to train 930 new Spartans because he was the best candidate.

If you're picking someone to train a new generation of Spartans, you pick the best to train them.

You're in denial. crai moar


I'm not in denial I just don't think he is an awesome Spartan. Mendez probabably wasn't the best Marine in the whole damn storyline but he helped train S-II's and S-III's so that really isn't a valid argument. And why do people keep bringing Kurt triumphing over John for? I don't care if Kurt can beat John, John isn't completely amazing either and nor is Kurt.

  • 08.16.2011 4:14 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: Surperion93
I'm not in denial I just don't think he is an awesome Spartan.


And you're wrong. Hence, you are in denial.

Mendez probabably wasn't the best Marine in the whole damn storyline but he helped train S-II's and S-III's so that really isn't a valid argument.

Mendez was a drill instructor, there's a difference.

And why do people keep bringing Kurt triumphing over John for? I don't care if Kurt can beat John

Remind me who you voted for in the poll?

John isn't completely amazing either and nor is Kurt.

Halsey disagrees.

  • 08.16.2011 4:19 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Kurt is my favorite because, to me, he has the best character.

All the Spartan's have character, it's in their actions and remarks. But Kurt stood out to me the most as his character was complete class, from beginning to end.

Not only that but his abilities and the circumstances he found himself are also a plus.

GoO was IMO a novel dedicated in particular to Kurt's character development, which helped outline everything else in the Halo Universe.

It's funny, GoO achieved a much deeper layer of character to a single unknown Spartan, at the time, than they could with 3 books with John beforehand. I felt more for Kurt in his last scene than I ever did for any other Spartan.

  • 08.16.2011 4:22 AM PDT

When in doubt, NoScope.

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Surperion93
@ajw34307

LAWL! So he can save teams from dying, fair enough, great skill indeed. Still, this makes him the BEST how?


You really don't get it, do you?

He's outwitted John and his team numerous times, he's precognitive which allows him to see things before they happen, and was chosen out of all other Spartan-IIs to train 930 new Spartans because he was the best candidate.

If you're picking someone to train a new generation of Spartans, you pick the best to train them.

You're in denial. crai moar


Generally, yes, you pick the best to train the new. But why would the UNSC take out their unstoppable killing machine just to train some completely expendable new recruits? Kurt is not the best. Sure, he's great and badass and kinda psychic, but that does not make him the best.

Ghosts of Onyx: pg 26-27

Just one more thing," Ackerson said. "I'll need a SPARTAN-II to help me train these new recruits."

Captain Gibson snorted. "And you're going to ask Dr. Halsey to lend you one?"

"I have a different methodology in mind," he replied.

Parangosky said, "You need a Spartan to train Spartans, of course, but"
-her voice lowered-
"tread damned lightly. This thing goes public, people find out we're making 'disposable heroes,' and morale will plummet across the fleet. Make sure no one in Section Three knows about your SPARTAN-II trainer, or the SPARTAN-IIIs. They're going to have to vanish. Understood?"

"Yes, ma'am."

"And for God's sake," she said, narrowing her eyes to slits, "Catherine Halsey must never know. Her bleeding-heart sympathies for the Spartans have won her too many admirers at CENTCOM. If that woman wasn't so vital to the war we would have had her retired decades ago."

Ackerson nodded.

The three Naval officers thumbed their tablet readers and the files erased. They rose,
and without another word, left the cage.
They had never been here.
None of this had ever been discussed.

Alone now, Ackerson reviewed his files and made plans. The first matter of business was already in the works: on-screen appeared the career record of SPARTAN-051 (Kurt).

Now there is no mention that he was picked because he was the best. So consider yourself beaten. Here, a constalation prize.
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  • 08.16.2011 4:23 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: NoScopeLex
Generally, yes, you pick the best to train the new. But why would the UNSC take out their unstoppable killing machine just to train some completely expendable new recruits? Kurt is not the best. Sure, he's great and badass and kinda psychic, but that does not make him the best.

Ghosts of Onyx: pg 26-27

Just one more thing," Ackerson said. "I'll need a SPARTAN-II to help me train these new recruits."

Captain Gibson snorted. "And you're going to ask Dr. Halsey to lend you one?"

"I have a different methodology in mind," he replied.

Parangosky said, "You need a Spartan to train Spartans, of course, but"
-her voice lowered-
"tread damned lightly. This thing goes public, people find out we're making 'disposable heroes,' and morale will plummet across the fleet. Make sure no one in Section Three knows about your SPARTAN-II trainer, or the SPARTAN-IIIs. They're going to have to vanish. Understood?"

"Yes, ma'am."

"And for God's sake," she said, narrowing her eyes to slits, "Catherine Halsey must never know. Her bleeding-heart sympathies for the Spartans have won her too many admirers at CENTCOM. If that woman wasn't so vital to the war we would have had her retired decades ago."

Ackerson nodded.

The three Naval officers thumbed their tablet readers and the files erased. They rose,
and without another word, left the cage.
They had never been here.
None of this had ever been discussed.

Alone now, Ackerson reviewed his files and made plans. The first matter of business was already in the works: on-screen appeared the career record of SPARTAN-051 (Kurt).

Now there is no mention that he was picked because he was the best. So consider yourself beaten. Here, a constalation prize.
http://achievements.schrankmonster.de/Achievement.aspx?text=5 G%20-%20I%20got%20HaloVerse%20owned


Then who do you suggest is better? Linda is the only Spartan-II who holds a torch to Kurt because of her skills with a sniper, yet nobody else has an ability anything like Kurt's precognitive abilities which proved to be a pivotal part in the novel when it came to saving lives.

Why would Ackerson choose Kurt and not someone else? Just like the Illusive Man spending billions of credits reviving one man, it's because it's a unique person and what that person represents. Ackerson knows, and so does Halsey (who even tells Kurt this), that he is unlike any other Spartan-II.

[Edited on 08.16.2011 4:31 AM PDT]

  • 08.16.2011 4:30 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

NoScopeLex
^You're right, he wasn't picked because he was the best.

He was picked because of a skill that only a handful of Spartans had.

Sociability.

Kurt had always made the effort to get to know people, his interactions would not be as faceless and unrelatable to the S-III's as his S-II's partners were. The rest of the S-II's were to a large extent anti-social to anyone who wasn't a S-II.

Another reason why I prefer Kurt. His emotions and feelings are not handicapped by his training.

[Edited on 08.16.2011 4:32 AM PDT]

  • 08.16.2011 4:30 AM PDT

When in doubt, NoScope.


Posted by: ninjakenzen
NoScopeLex
^You're right, he wasn't picked because he was the best.

He was picked because of a skill that only a handful of Spartans had.

Sociability.

Kurt had always made the effort to get to know people, his interactions would not be as faceless and unrelatable to the S-III's as his S-II's partners were. The rest of the S-II's were to a large extent anti-social to anyone who wasn't a S-II.

Another reason why I prefer Kurt. His emotions and feelings are not handicapped by his training.


Thanks. And Which spartan is "best" is solely opinion. And what you mean by "best."

  • 08.16.2011 4:34 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: NoScopeLex
And Which spartan is "best" is solely opinion. And what you mean by "best."


The you telling me I'm wrong is an invalid gesture. -_-

  • 08.16.2011 4:36 AM PDT

When in doubt, NoScope.


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: NoScopeLex
And Which spartan is "best" is solely opinion. And what you mean by "best."


The you telling me I'm wrong is an invalid gesture. -_-


I was simply telling you that KURT WASNT PICKED BECAUSE HE WAS THE BEST. If you think he's best, then fine. But dont make it sound like a universal fact by connecting your opinion with the storyline.

  • 08.16.2011 4:42 AM PDT

LONG LIVED METAL

surely Maximus?

  • 08.16.2011 4:44 AM PDT

When in doubt, NoScope.

All this arguing has led me to forget to give my answer here. Kurt, as well as all of the other spartans, are my favorites. But, like many others, i pick the Master Chief. My definition of best is "survivability" so there you have it.

  • 08.16.2011 4:46 AM PDT

When in doubt, NoScope.

Just for lolz, and actually surprised its not already here, Leonidas would also count as one of my favorite spartans. :P

  • 08.16.2011 4:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: BioD iiRAGE
ok ok everyone i can only put a certain amount of ppl in the poll there for i put the most known Spartans and yes i get Spartan 117s last name isnt Spartan give me a break Jezz i dont read the halo books to know that im not big on readin im just in ta play the game

No you are just stupid, you don't need the books to tell you that his last name is not Spartan. just because they say "John Spartan 117" It means he is John, 117 spartan even though only 33 survived.

  • 08.16.2011 5:29 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Surperion93
I'm not in denial I just don't think he is an awesome Spartan.



Mendez probabably wasn't the best Marine in the whole damn storyline but he helped train S-II's and S-III's so that really isn't a valid argument.

Mendez was a drill instructor, there's a difference.

And why do people keep bringing Kurt triumphing over John for? I don't care if Kurt can beat John

Remind me who you voted for in the poll?

John isn't completely amazing either and nor is Kurt.

Halsey disagrees.


No, being the "best" Spartan is purely opinion. So I am not wrong you just think you're right. Plus the term "Best Spartan" isn't very clear. For example Linda is the best sniper, Kelly is the fastest etc.

LAWL! Who cares if I voted for John, no one else was on the Poll that I though was better then John, as I stated in my first comment. Plus from what I read of TFoR, Mendez essentially trained the Spartans, there's no major difference.

And as for John being amazing? Ofcourse Halsey agrees, she has been on his side since day 1. Not that there is anything wrong with that, John is my second fave but it doesnt mean I bring him into EVERY single conversation and say "OH JOHN COULD KICKS ASS" and over reacting how amazing I think he is, so why bring him into the discussion at all?

You keep your opinion and I'll keep mine, but don't sit there and try to tell me my opinion is wrong. Agree to disgree.

[Edited on 08.16.2011 6:15 AM PDT]

  • 08.16.2011 6:12 AM PDT

John, James, Jun and Linda FTW!

[Edited on 08.16.2011 6:50 AM PDT]

  • 08.16.2011 6:49 AM PDT

Posted by: Ambusher
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Fluffyzila
btw his name's John Sierra


I really... really hope you're just making a bad joke.


What is wrong with these kids...

FTW

  • 08.16.2011 12:34 PM PDT