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Subject: who is better master chief or jorge


Posted by: Cheeto666
In war, there are two types of people: Those who are very good, and those who are dead. Would you care to guess which is very good and which is dead?


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  • 08.15.2011 10:26 PM PDT

I'd say if they were arm wrestling, Jorge would win. But in overall combat performance, Chief takes the cake.

  • 08.15.2011 11:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Bungie screwed up with Jorge's appearence, making him seem slow and bulky, when he should be just as fast, and mobile as Chief himself. Something that's really stupid about Jorge is that he walks and runs heavily, like he's lifting his armor. That doesn't even make sense because doesn't MJOLNIR armor read nerve signals, and move itself according to that? Jorge is a fail of a Spartan, no wonder he got stuck with a team of cliche stereotypical movie soldiers.

Oh, and Jorge would most likely crush Master Chief in a fist fight with their armor if he actually acted like a proper SPARTAN-II.


Or it was the fact of the large backup+the heavy machine gun he was carrying around.


That barely matters.


Go lift a heavy box. You'll find it hinders your mobility greatly, even if you can handle the weight with ease.



A machine gun would not hinder a spartan like you are saying it would. Their suits are like what 2 tons? They can flip tanks, the turret loaded with infinite ammo wouldn't effect him THAT dramatically

  • 08.15.2011 11:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: chickenlittle
Cheeto is the only one among you that doesn't suck.

Exactly that. Like I said, those who are very good, and those who are dead. Master Chief is very good. All those people are dead. That's all that matters.
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Posted by: Cheeto666
In war, there are two types of people: Those who are very good, and those who are dead. Would you care to guess which is very good and which is dead?


Ah right, so that means most of the Spartan II's, Captain Keyes, Johnson, most of the Spartan III's, most of humanity... They all sucked cause they died?

  • 08.16.2011 12:03 AM PDT
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???

well seeing as the chief is still alive has got to say something right.

  • 08.16.2011 12:19 AM PDT

hmm let's see now... Jorge is a SPARTAN-II... same with the chief, it took a slipspace bomb to kill jorge while chief is out there destroying rings monkeying about.

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  • 08.16.2011 12:29 AM PDT

while master chief has better fighting skills and jorge has better strength i would go with master chief all jorge does is carry around a turrent while master chief is a master in all forms of weaponry

  • 08.16.2011 12:34 AM PDT
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ya not to mention he has the whole cyborg thing going on but still jorge is a damn good spartan u have to admit
What are you talking about cyborg?!? Chief and Jorge had the same augmentations, but they are both humans. Just augmented humans.


master chief is part machine, he had different things enhanced. if you go back a couple of weeks on this site 343 even tell you what features of him have been genetically modified (if i can find it ile link it).

things are hard to find now though so im not making any promises, im sure some other must have read it as well


sorry on topic, master chief of course

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  • 08.16.2011 12:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Highwayman48
Master Chief, because he has something Jorge doesn't. Luck.


I'd still vote for Jorge, luck can only get you so far before it runs out. Plus Chief has Cortana as well, so it wouldn't be much a "fair" fight since he has her coaching him the whole way.

Just saying.

  • 08.16.2011 1:48 AM PDT

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Master chief all the way, no comparison at all.

  • 08.16.2011 1:50 AM PDT
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Halo 2 isn't dead jorge...... its just missing in action.
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Posted by: RussellTheHippy
I'm going with master chief on this one.

  • 08.16.2011 7:25 AM PDT

jorge is great and all but master cheifis who i choose beacause no matter what master cheif started it all

  • 08.16.2011 7:38 AM PDT

This is Sparta!!

thats a dumb question who is still alive? Chief jorge has crappy luck chief is known for his luck.

  • 08.16.2011 7:45 AM PDT

I'm going to say Chief on this one. Not going to lie I just perfer him over Jorge. Forget his apparent 'luck' and his ability to survive impossible odds. I just overall prefer John. John keeps his scentences short and sweet, whereas Noble team kept running their mouths and clogging up my speakers with their sterotyped accents.


Posted by: Backfjre
if Jorge seemed more 'authentic' then I think it would be a close fight.

Remember... Noble team was all 7 foot, Jorge had to of been like 8 feet tall, that guy was huge. I do agree that he seemed to be almost lifting his armor, it didn't seem as much a part of him, and he just didn't come across as the iconic myth of a spartan.


This is not true. Jorge is not as tall as you are over exagerating. You must remember S-III's were not given the 'Catalytic Thyroid Implant' which boost growth of skeletal and muscle tissues. So S-III's would not be as tall as the average S-II (which is 7ft in MJOLNIR armour if I remember rightly) So Jorge is actually the right height, standing at around about 7ft.

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  • 08.16.2011 7:57 AM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Bungie screwed up with Jorge's appearence, making him seem slow and bulky, when he should be just as fast, and mobile as Chief himself. Something that's really stupid about Jorge is that he walks and runs heavily, like he's lifting his armor. That doesn't even make sense because doesn't MJOLNIR armor read nerve signals, and move itself according to that? Jorge is a fail of a Spartan, no wonder he got stuck with a team of cliche stereotypical movie soldiers.

Oh, and Jorge would most likely crush Master Chief in a fist fight with their armor if he actually acted like a proper SPARTAN-II.

  • 08.16.2011 8:09 AM PDT


Posted by: Knightsfball11

Posted by: Backfjre
if Jorge seemed more 'authentic' then I think it would be a close fight.

Remember... Noble team was all 7 foot, Jorge had to of been like 8 feet tall, that guy was huge. I do agree that he seemed to be almost lifting his armor, it didn't seem as much a part of him, and he just didn't come across as the iconic myth of a spartan.


Actually, all of Noble team were under 7 feet except for Jorge.

Carter was 6 feet 8 inches tall.

Kat was 6 feet 9 inches tall.

Jun was 6 feet 10 inches tall.

Emile was 6 feet 10 inches tall.

Jorge was 7 feet 4 inches tall.



This is what I just said LOL. But well done, you put more effort and refrences into your explnation then I did. As long as the point get across lol.

  • 08.16.2011 8:14 AM PDT


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Posted by: Dark Paladin445
ya not to mention he has the whole cyborg thing going on but still jorge is a damn good spartan u have to admit
What are you talking about cyborg?!? Chief and Jorge had the same augmentations, but they are both humans. Just augmented humans.


master chief is part machine, he had different things enhanced. if you go back a couple of weeks on this site 343 even tell you what features of him have been genetically modified (if i can find it ile link it).

things are hard to find now though so im not making any promises, im sure some other must have read it as well


sorry on topic, master chief of course


If you think Master Chief is part machine, you must go back to the Reach forum. And never come back.

  • 08.16.2011 8:54 AM PDT
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I have to say same thing about you...He sayed the truth and he was right...you seem to be pissed that ur fav spartan got killed.

  • 08.16.2011 9:04 AM PDT


Posted by: Jacrat
A machine gun would not hinder a spartan like you are saying it would. Their suits are like what 2 tons? They can flip tanks, the turret loaded with infinite ammo wouldn't effect him THAT dramatically


A: In-universe proof of them flipping tanks. That's gameplay like them flipping elephants.
B: It's not the weight, it's the size. Get a large backpack, put it on (filled with stuff), then get a box comparable to the heavy machine gun turret. See if you can sprint around while carrying it all.

  • 08.16.2011 9:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: Knightsfball11

Posted by: Backfjre
if Jorge seemed more 'authentic' then I think it would be a close fight.

Remember... Noble team was all 7 foot, Jorge had to of been like 8 feet tall, that guy was huge. I do agree that he seemed to be almost lifting his armor, it didn't seem as much a part of him, and he just didn't come across as the iconic myth of a spartan.


Actually, all of Noble team were under 7 feet except for Jorge.

Carter was 6 feet 8 inches tall.

Kat was 6 feet 9 inches tall.

Jun was 6 feet 10 inches tall.

Emile was 6 feet 10 inches tall.

Jorge was 7 feet 4 inches tall.



This is what I just said LOL. But well done, you put more effort and refrences into your explnation then I did. As long as the point get across lol.


minor correction to carter's height. He is 6.8 feet tall, not 6'8''. 208 centimeters means that he is 6'10'' inches.

And all of the heights given, are the spartans in armor, (the only spartan's actual height given without armor was chief). so for the SIII's and jorges height, you can actually take off around 2.5 to 3 inches to get their actual height, and you will see jorge standing about 2 inches taller than chief and about 5-7 inches taller than noble team (about 1 head taller, which makes perfect sense if you seen the cutscenes in reach).

But thank you Knightsfball11 for actually bringing the links up, i was getting tired of people saying that noble team was on average 7 ft tall.

  • 08.16.2011 9:11 AM PDT

I want to say Chief, but I get the feeling I'm only saying this because we have seen what he can actually do. With Jorge, you have to take what he does in Reach but that's it. There's nothing to suggest that Jorge is in fact better or worse. They're both S-2s, I am going to say it would be a close fight, maybe even a tie.

  • 08.16.2011 9:12 AM PDT