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Posted by: grey101
Posted by: Jonzx5
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Posted by: Jonzx5
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Ruby, His comments were on the rather extensive ADDITIONAL plating on the armor. While it may not physically weigh him down, it'd hinder some agility.
You know, a knight in full plate can't move around like a knight in scale mail?
Actually, contrary to popular beleif, mail hinder's agility more than Plate armor. Plate armor is much more advanced, and is made from high quality parts that fit together perfectly and allow the user to move freely.
People have done tests where they put sensor's on the tests subjects bodies (One with mail, the other with plate), and the mail limited the user more.
Depends on A: type of scale mail or chain mail
B: The user.
I know that fact is semi-true due to my brother and me talking about it. Your facts in the past have been skewed.
If John and Jorge fought, there would be a bunch of factors to consider.
1. Experience: I'm not 100% sure, but it seems like they are roughly on par up to the Fall Of Reach, with John having the extra experience of Halo CE, 2, and 3 under his belt.
2. "Feats". We don't really know much about Jorge's Feats, and what we do know come from ingame experiences. We do know alot about stuff that John's pulled off, after all, he is the main character of the Halo Trilogy. To name a few specific ones other than "saving the universe";
*Fighting his way through Halo, at times alone and at times with some marines
*Surviving the flood
*Surviving through High Charity alone
*Assassinating Regret, and killing numourous Honor Guards alone
*Killing the Shipmaster (Halo: CE, T&R level)
*Taking a few Zealots alone (Those who say ten to twelve at once are exhadurating)
*Killing a room full of Brute's single handedly (Uprising)
The catch is, for all we know, Jorge could have done the same thing if given the opportunity, which is why I say this argument is pointless.
3. Strength. Spartans can lift 3X their weight, and then twice that with Mjolnir. John = 390 pounds, Jorge = 320. With Mjolnir, John can lift 2340 pounds, and Jorge can lift 1920. That gives John a strength advantage. Keep in mind that pure physical strength does not by any means determine the outcome of a fight, but it is something to consider.
On the other hand, John does not exactly have such a good track record when it comes to 1v1's. He struggled against an Elite in FOR, while Kelly and Fred seem to dispatch multiple without any trouble (One can argue that he was in space, and facing an Elite for the first time). John also struggled with a Brute, while Cal wiped the floor with a Brute Chieftain in H2H.
I don't think the information we have on Jorge is enough to conclude this debate.
1. both of them would be equal as of Fall of Reach.
2.Again every thing needs to be during Reach since jorge is dead after that. anything else is redundant and majority of the still chief did was with help or due to a bomb. FYI
3.I feel that jorges is weight is off despite that being official.
4.When did Fred and kelly fight elites with such easy as you said? please don't tell me you are referencing GoO when the elites were stunned by will beating a hunter with bare hands.
Every spartan struggled with a brute and cal didn't wipe the floor with that brute.
I feel that Jorges weight is wrong as well, but it is official, and I can't do crap about it.
And yes, GoO is a valid example. If you re-read the section, you will see that Kelly fought the Elite's prior (or after?) them being "stunned".
If you look, you will see that most of the Halo community will agree that the Chieftain got his ass kicked by Cal. I understand that this may be a soft spot for you, but I simply brought up these H2H encounters to show that John is not as good as other Spartan's in 1vs1 H2H engagements, nothing more.
With that being said, you attempt to correct my post, yet you did not even post an opinion on the topic of the thread? John or Jorge?