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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Jonzx5

Posted by: grey101
Yes i am aware of this and the reason i said he "didn't" is because you have a habit of twisting things up and i assumed you meant in hand to hand combat, which he didn't.

anybody could kill a brute with a gun


Speaking of twisting around things, you just demonstrated perfectly how it's done ^^

"anybody could kill a brute with a gun". "A" Brute? He was surrounded by at least 20 of them (That's a very conservative estimate, so I won't be accused of "twisting" anything). I don't know how else to describe it so forgive me, but John pretty much did some matrix sh#t on those Brutes.

Also, it was not all ranged combat. Ignoring the fact that he was surrounded from all directions in an enclosed room, did you forget the part where he takes a spiker, cuts a Brute across the chest, grabs him by the neck, and tosses him aside? That seems like hand to hand combat to me.

I'm not even going to discuss Cal vs the Chieftain anymore, as it is clearly a soft spot for you. Just know that 99% of the people here would agree that the Chieftain got his ass kicked. That is all.



I doubt John could lift a brute with a single hand.

Also, I'll make a topic about Cal vs the chieftain including a blow by blow description of the battle and we'll see is 99% is close to true.


Here is a perfect example of how I am wrongfully accused by you of "twisting" things around.

I said that John grabbed the Brute by the neck, and tossed him aside.

Somehow, that translated into "John lifted up the Brute with one hand".

So let me ask you, am I the one twisting things around, or are you the one who simply mis-reads, mis-comprehends, or simply puts words into my mouth?

Instead of wasting your time posting a blow by blow description, why don't you just link the video? Infact, I will do it for you:

http://www.twitch.tv/knitepanda/b/258589541?id=258589541& channel=knitepanda

Fast forward to 9:45. So, how man people think that the Brute got his ass kicked?

It's funny how mentioning a few examples in context of John vs Jorge have gotten you two both so worked up. The moment you see me mention a Brute or an Elite losing a fight, you seem to rush to their defense. You are letting your fanboyism get in the way of any meaningful discussion.

[Edited on 08.24.2011 6:05 AM PDT]

  • 08.24.2011 6:01 AM PDT

Your description was of the style sounding like *Grabs with one hand, tosses aside*

Grey can confirm or deny if such tossing happened.

Not a fanboy of brutes or elites. However unlike you I don't believe the BS that Spartans are unstoppable, best trained in the galaxy, and can do anything.

I did post that topic, even made it clear about what damage was actually dealt by Cal. So if you feel a bruised/bloodied eye is an ass kicking... Man low standards.

On topic, At the level of Reach era experiance... Jorge has an advantage over John.

Jorge isn't a leader, so he focuses on fighting.
John is a leader, his focus is on leader the team. As my brother told me, the squad leader doesn't really have to fire his weapon in some cases.

So, who's at a bigger disadvantage when in a one on one? John.

  • 08.24.2011 11:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Your description was of the style sounding like *Grabs with one hand, tosses aside*

Grey can confirm or deny if such tossing happened.

Not a fanboy of brutes or elites. However unlike you I don't believe the BS that Spartans are unstoppable, best trained in the galaxy, and can do anything.

I did post that topic, even made it clear about what damage was actually dealt by Cal. So if you feel a bruised/bloodied eye is an ass kicking... Man low standards.

On topic, At the level of Reach era experiance... Jorge has an advantage over John.

Jorge isn't a leader, so he focuses on fighting.
John is a leader, his focus is on leader the team. As my brother told me, the squad leader doesn't really have to fire his weapon in some cases.

So, who's at a bigger disadvantage when in a one on one? John.


Once again, you are putting words into my mouth. Please show me where I said Spartan's were unstoppable and capable of anything. If you did not realize, I even CORRECTED another member who mentioned John taking on twelve Zealots at once, and told him that he was being rediculous.

You are painting your own pictures of me in your head, and labeling me blindly. If you stopped for a second and actually analyzed and read the things I have said, you will begin to realize that the majority of the examples I list are true, and it is you who exhadurate them and continue to put words into my mouth.

If you read the things that Grey has said, you will also realize that he twists things around more than I do. Yet you are completely ignorant of Grey doing those things simply because he shares the same opinions as you.

Grey, be my guest and confirm that it did happen. I don't see what the hell the big deal of grabbing a Brute and tossing him aside is. You are making it seem like a huge feat.

About the Brute getting his ass kicked, you are saying that a bloody eye (He was actually blinded, read the episode description on Halo Nation) is not an ass kicking, and I agree. You are basing "ass kicking" simply on the amount of damage done, which is false. The Brute missed every single swing, got jump kicked into the water, proceeded to miss more swings, and then got punched and kicked off a waterfall. THATS called getting your ass kicked, reguardless of the damage done, the Brute lost that fight, clearly.

[Edited on 08.24.2011 1:50 PM PDT]

  • 08.24.2011 1:47 PM PDT

I'm talking about the thread that got deleted. Aka the one where you fought tooth and nail, TWISTED examples straight from the book, and outright accused us of ignoring examples we posted straight from the books proving Spartans aren't god in Hand to hand.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=64974945&v iewreplies=true You'll note how I point out the fact the battle was exaggerated in several ways. And they are true.


Ahum, if Grey 'twists' things around, he'll admit it when proven wrong. Also, we don't really share viewpoints on everything. Hell, I can list off areas where we disagree.

That's all off-topic though, so good day.

  • 08.24.2011 2:00 PM PDT

my favorite game in the intire world is halo

everyone knows samuel was the best spartan he was the srongest and a head taller then john and he was one of the fastest and smartest spartans but he died in a covenent ship in the first book

  • 08.24.2011 2:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I'm talking about the thread that got deleted. Aka the one where you fought tooth and nail, TWISTED examples straight from the book, and outright accused us of ignoring examples we posted straight from the books proving Spartans aren't god in Hand to hand.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=64974945&v iewreplies=true You'll note how I point out the fact the battle was exaggerated in several ways. And they are true.


Ahum, if Grey 'twists' things around, he'll admit it when proven wrong. Also, we don't really share viewpoints on everything. Hell, I can list off areas where we disagree.

That's all off-topic though, so good day.


You are being a huge hypocrite. I hope you know that everything you just accused me of doing in the other thread, you have done yourself. First of all, I never, ever, said that they were "gods". Stop putting words into my mouth once again.

You continued to ignore encounters from the books that proved your points wrong. Whats worse is, you never ever admitt that you are wrong, even if its obvious. Me on the other hand, I have admitted mistakes multiple times. For example, when I got the kill count of a Spartan wrong (I said he killed 25 Covenant before being killed, while it was 7 in reality) I admitted it and apologized.

You on the other hand, will continue to argue and attempt to make it seem like you were not wrong in the first place. A perfect example would be you mentioning that "plate armor limits movement more than chainmail". I know for a FACT that it is the exact opposite, I studied medieval warfare, so don't give me that "uhhh it dependz on wat type of chainmaill" bull-blam!-. Just admitt that you are wrong, like I have done previously.

You are extremely biased against me simply because we don't share many opinions. If you think more, you will realize that you and grey do exactly what you accuse me of doing.

  • 08.24.2011 4:23 PM PDT

I'm Hungry

Jorge is a spartan II

  • 08.24.2011 5:23 PM PDT

I'm Hungry

halo legends is crap, theyre trying to turn halo into pokemon or yugio gx

  • 08.24.2011 5:26 PM PDT

chief all the way

  • 08.25.2011 2:59 PM PDT

Expressing my strong liberal views without shame. Favorite quotes below:

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

- Albert Einstein

Jorge, canonically, is as strong if not stronger than the Chief. He is also just as mobile and fast, but Reach really screwed up Spartan traits.

  • 08.25.2011 3:48 PM PDT


Posted by: Plasma Prestige
Jorge, canonically, is as strong if not stronger than the Chief. He is also just as mobile and fast, but Reach really screwed up Spartan traits.


Not really. Backpack and the HMG hinder mobility.

  • 08.25.2011 3:50 PM PDT

Roadkill101

Master Chief he's hardcore

  • 08.25.2011 3:52 PM PDT

yeah cheif jorge dies cheif does not plus cheifs cooler

  • 08.25.2011 4:40 PM PDT