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Subject: I think there might be Elite apperances in Halo 4

Before the flaming commences, I have several reasons why I believe that this will be the case.

1, The famous "no purple" quote by Frankie..... Is not true (I believe), here is the actual quote that most are referencing. Skip to 12:24
BY SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T WORK FOR 343! THEY WORK FOR KOTAKU!

2 If Frankie did actually say this and I am missing something HERE. There is no purple and there is still elite's present, because they are not members of the covenant anymore (or they just don't like the purple paint job).

3. Co-op Unless there are other Spartans somehow present (maybe, possibility) otherwise there isn't really a suitable partner/s for co-op game play. Or they could just go the way of ODST and Reach and have random People, which I personally didn't like much (I feel it took away from the story).

Well that's my two cents anyway, feel free to flame and argue in the space below, lol.
By the way I would just like to remind the people of the b.net community of the speculation that was flying about before the release of Halo:Reach.

S3's can't wear mjolnir
They have to be S2's
They can't be S3's
It has to be blue team in the silhouette picture
That big guy looks like an Elite (for lulz)
+plus more (cant remember, feel free to add)

YOU WERE ALL DEAD WRONG
(I find this relevant to this discussion)

Props to anton1792, couldn't have put it better myself.
Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: grey101
i don't want to fight the "covenant" for another 20 years.

We won't be. That would be pointless (And an indication of sour milking in my opinion) However there is nothing wrong with grounding the new trilogy in familiarity by being able to see them again. Who says we have to be fighting them?

As a game franchise, the games must stand up on their own. Most (If not all) reviewers will judge the game as a game, and I am sorry to say it but Halo strikes quite poorly in the characterisation and story department. It relies too heavily on the books for that. Leaving the UNSC/Elites/Covenant out of it would be no more than a cop out.

How have the UNSC (Or Humanity I should say) changed following the events of Halo 3, both in society and technology? How have Humanity taken to the galactic responsibility of the Mantle, rejection or acceptance? How are they getting on with their new allies, the Sangheili? What are they doing about the remaining Halos? Are there Covenant remnants with malcontent towards Humanity? If so, what are they doing about that? What are the circumstances surrounding the last cutscene in Reach?

How are the Sangheili coping and what are they doing? (Remember, people who have only played the games do not know anything about their technology and fleet situation, or the state of their society in general, so are probably under the impression that they own the galaxy now or something [And I have read plenty of fanfics under that premise]) They have had their religion proven false essentially, or at least their version of an afterlife. What impacts does that have? Does everyone accept these truths? How goes their war with the Loyalists? What are their opinions towards their new allies, Humanity, and the heirship and title of Reclaimer that Humanity holds?

What about the Arbiter, who's character is still not resolved? He got publicly shamed and stripped of everything. What impact has that had on his family line? What happens to him now that he returns home? Is he still shamed or rather now held up as the pinnacle of the Sangheili people? Has he got his life back? What implications do the words "Where it so easy" in response to Master Chiefs death have?

I will leave it there, I won't bother with the rest of the Covenant. To just chop off all of that will be seen as poor story telling and copping out.


[Edited on 08.20.2011 2:32 PM PDT]

  • 08.16.2011 9:58 AM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

  • 08.16.2011 10:01 AM PDT


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game?

  • 08.16.2011 10:03 AM PDT

I personally want the Elites to make a return. But in some cases, I don't think it's possible that it will happen.

We're all just going to have to be patient; maybe they'll spoil us with some information at HaloFest.

  • 08.16.2011 10:10 AM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.


Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game?

This sums it up.

  • 08.16.2011 10:15 AM PDT


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game?

This sums it up.

lol, you act so definitive and absolute. But you know nothing, none of us do yet. That post you link only makes leaps and assumptions. I suggest you wait and weigh the evidence once you get something conclusive and not just use the word games of the creators to justify your own desires.

  • 08.16.2011 10:19 AM PDT


Posted by: Vaenier

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game?

This sums it up.

lol, you act so definitive and absolute. But you know nothing, none of us do yet. That post you link only makes leaps and assumptions. I suggest you wait and weigh the evidence once you get something conclusive and not just use the word games of the creators to justify your own desires.

Thank you, but forums are for speculating also.

  • 08.16.2011 11:15 AM PDT


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game?

This sums it up.


"Franke said no purple"

Stopped reading there. He did not, therefore, the validity of the rest of the information is in question.

  • 08.16.2011 11:18 AM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

No purple.

  • 08.16.2011 11:19 AM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game?

This sums it up.


"Franke said no purple"

Stopped reading there. He did not, therefore, the validity of the rest of the information is in question.

Lol, if you carried on reading you would have seen me discredit it.

  • 08.16.2011 11:20 AM PDT


Posted by: SociallyPsyco
No purple.

Lol, seems like there is a lot of speed reading going on in the forums today!

  • 08.16.2011 11:21 AM PDT


Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game?

This sums it up.


"Franke said no purple"

Stopped reading there. He did not, therefore, the validity of the rest of the information is in question.

Lol, if you carried on reading you would have seen me discredit it.


I read the OP, I was simply making a direct attempt to him specifically to point out that it was a Kotaku employee, not Franie.

  • 08.16.2011 11:37 AM PDT

Oh, I see sorry, wrong end of the stick.

  • 08.16.2011 11:43 AM PDT

Cough *bump* cough

  • 08.17.2011 11:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.
This; has been stated many times. IT IS ALSO very boring and bland to see the same factions over and over even though that's "Halo". But storylines call for desperate measures and I wish to see more flood.

  • 08.17.2011 11:18 AM PDT
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No, it won't be Covenant and UNSC at Halo 4... Have you played Halo 2 and 3?

It wouldn't be exactly logical and it would be like bad story writing if they include Covenant or UNSC at Halo 4.

  • 08.17.2011 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: raganok99
No, it won't be Covenant and UNSC at Halo 4... Have you played Halo 2 and 3?

It wouldn't be exactly logical and it would be like bad story writing if they include Covenant or UNSC at Halo 4.

Well to be honest if somehow 343i changes it to where MC discovers the remaining S-III's and II's well then they are considered UNSC faction? Presumably?

  • 08.17.2011 11:22 AM PDT
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We won't find this out for a while.

  • 08.17.2011 11:23 AM PDT


Posted by: im the next halo

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.
This; has been stated many times. IT IS ALSO very boring and bland to see the same factions over and over even though that's "Halo". But storylines call for desperate measures and I wish to see more flood.


This has been stated many times.....BY FORUM GOERS. These are not the definitive source on new Halo news they are merely speculators!

And I never said there will be UNSC or Covenant! I said there is a chance there may be elites somehow!

  • 08.17.2011 11:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: raganok99
No, it won't be Covenant and UNSC at Halo 4... Have you played Halo 2 and 3?

It wouldn't be exactly logical and it would be like bad story writing if they include Covenant or UNSC at Halo 4.

Well to be honest if somehow 343i changes it to where MC discovers the remaining S-III's and II's well then they are considered UNSC faction? Presumably?


Oh god no.

It won't happen like that because this planet isn't even Onyx at all. It's Forerunner planet, presumably unknown to every one. It may likely be Forerunner capital.

And, Halo: Glasslands would like to have a word with you... about S-IIIs and S-IIs's fate.

  • 08.17.2011 11:24 AM PDT


Posted by: im the next halo

Posted by: raganok99
No, it won't be Covenant and UNSC at Halo 4... Have you played Halo 2 and 3?

It wouldn't be exactly logical and it would be like bad story writing if they include Covenant or UNSC at Halo 4.

Well to be honest if somehow 343i changes it to where MC discovers the remaining S-III's and II's well then they are considered UNSC faction? Presumably?

Thank you

  • 08.17.2011 11:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: im the next halo

Posted by: raganok99
No, it won't be Covenant and UNSC at Halo 4... Have you played Halo 2 and 3?

It wouldn't be exactly logical and it would be like bad story writing if they include Covenant or UNSC at Halo 4.

Well to be honest if somehow 343i changes it to where MC discovers the remaining S-III's and II's well then they are considered UNSC faction? Presumably?

Thank you
Uh you're welcome?

  • 08.17.2011 11:27 AM PDT

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I think he will find the other spartans. Story wise, I think it would be best.

  • 08.17.2011 11:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ijnek O Nobles
I think he will find the other spartans. Story wise, I think it would be best.


No, no.

Have you heard about Halo: Glasslands at all???

Their podcast said that Dr. Halsey and other Spartans somehow escaped from Micro Dyson Sphere world and went back to UNSC (presumably Earth). It happened before Halo 4 even started...

Remember, Glasslands is set BETWEEN Halo 3 and Halo 4. NOTICE: a key word of between.

[Edited on 08.17.2011 11:32 AM PDT]

  • 08.17.2011 11:31 AM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game?

This sums it up.


"Franke said no purple"

Stopped reading there. He did not, therefore, the validity of the rest of the information is in question.


and for the countless time he did moron, millions of people saw it.

you got your answers in this thread

[Edited on 08.17.2011 11:35 AM PDT]

  • 08.17.2011 11:33 AM PDT