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Posted by: raganok99

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I think he will find the other spartans. Story wise, I think it would be best.


No, no.

Have you heard about Halo: Glasslands at all???

Their podcast said that Dr. Halsey and other Spartans somehow escaped from Micro Dyson Sphere world and went back to UNSC (presumably Earth). It happened before Halo 4 even started...

Remember, Glasslands is set BETWEEN Halo 3 and Halo 4. NOTICE: a key word of between.

SO, the Blue team and Halsey are out of the Dyson sphere before Halo 4 what's to say they haven,t gone looking for John? (I know they think he's dead but, things change over time, cough *recovery beacon *cough)

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Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: Ijnek O Nobles
I think he will find the other spartans. Story wise, I think it would be best.


No, no.

Have you heard about Halo: Glasslands at all???

Their podcast said that Dr. Halsey and other Spartans somehow escaped from Micro Dyson Sphere world and went back to UNSC (presumably Earth). It happened before Halo 4 even started...

Remember, Glasslands is set BETWEEN Halo 3 and Halo 4. NOTICE: a key word of between.

SO, the Blue team and Halsey are out of the Dyson sphere before Halo 4 what's to say they haven,t gone looking for John? (I know they think he's dead but, things change over time, cough *recovery beacon *cough)


Seems it's unlikely since UNSC needs their help to maintain its defenses at various colonies in case if they attack again. You forget, UNSC haven't fully recovered from the 27 long year war at Covenant. And I recall, Evolution recalled that John was missing since 2559 and other sources state that he is missing even by 2600s.

So it seems unlikely.

And Forerunner planet is probably extremely far away from the UNSC controlled space or even "former" Covenant controlled space.

  • 08.17.2011 11:42 AM PDT


Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: Ijnek O Nobles
I think he will find the other spartans. Story wise, I think it would be best.


No, no.

Have you heard about Halo: Glasslands at all???

Their podcast said that Dr. Halsey and other Spartans somehow escaped from Micro Dyson Sphere world and went back to UNSC (presumably Earth). It happened before Halo 4 even started...

Remember, Glasslands is set BETWEEN Halo 3 and Halo 4. NOTICE: a key word of between.

SO, the Blue team and Halsey are out of the Dyson sphere before Halo 4 what's to say they haven,t gone looking for John? (I know they think he's dead but, things change over time, cough *recovery beacon *cough)


Seems it's unlikely since UNSC needs their help to maintain its defenses at various colonies in case if they attack again. You forget, UNSC haven't fully recovered from the 27 long year war at Covenant. And I recall, Evolution recalled that John was missing since 2559 and other sources state that he is missing even by 2600s.

So it seems unlikely.

And Forerunner planet is probably extremely far away from the UNSC controlled space or even "former" Covenant controlled space.

I see your point and you make a valid argument. Im kind of hoping for Humans to discover quicker means of FLT (like forruners) in Glasslands or Primordium, only time will tell if my wishes will become reality.

  • 08.17.2011 12:23 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

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The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4.

What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game?

This sums it up.


"Franke said no purple"

Stopped reading there. He did not, therefore, the validity of the rest of the information is in question.


and for the countless time he did moron, millions of people saw it.

you got your answers in this thread


Oh, hello there, I was wondering when you were gonna stick your opinion which is obviously fact whith added insult in

BTW

THIS ISN'T PURPLE

I never said it wasn't Frankie that said it, I said in point 2 that I didn't know if he did. Thank you for informing me.

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4. [/quote]
What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game? [/quote]
This sums it up.


"Franke said no purple"

Stopped reading there. He did not, therefore, the validity of the rest of the information is in question.


and for the countless time he did moron, millions of people saw it.

you got your answers in this thread


Oh, hello there, I was wondering when you were gonna stick your opinion which is obviously fact whith added insult in

BTW

THIS ISN'T PURPLE

I never said it wasn't Frankie that said it, I said in point 2 that I didn't know if he did. Thank you for informing me.


Did you read his statements from Evolutions book? There is good reasons that Covenant won't be appearing at Halo 4. Also, I already explained bulk of it in his thread while ago.

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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe



Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
The Covenant and UNSC will not be in Halo 4. [/quote]
What? Did you read that? Can you please give some proof, maybe a quote from somebody working on the game? [/quote]
This sums it up.[/quote]

"Franke said no purple"

Stopped reading there. He did not, therefore, the validity of the rest of the information is in question.[/quote]

and for the countless time he did moron, millions of people saw it.

you got your answers in this thread


Oh, hello there, I was wondering when you were gonna stick your opinion which is obviously fact whith added insult in

BTW

THIS ISN'T PURPLE

I never said it wasn't Frankie that said it, I said in point 2 that I didn't know if he did. Thank you for informing me.


what is that suppose to mean? i was talking to Rob not you.

  • 08.17.2011 12:39 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
what is that suppose to mean? i was talking to Rob not you.

Apologies, for getting on the defence. But every time I see a post from you there's an insult thrown in like you have a severe case of 'bulliedatschoolitus'.

  • 08.17.2011 12:46 PM PDT

If we've learned anything from halo its that easter eggs are common, I'm sure there will be an elite

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: grey101
what is that suppose to mean? i was talking to Rob not you.

Apologies, for getting on the defence. But every time I see a post from you there's an insult thrown in like you have a severe case of 'bulliedatschoolitus'.



normally it is because an extremely stupid statement/question was brought up or because i was insulted for awhile and got tired of it.

  • 08.17.2011 12:48 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: grey101
what is that suppose to mean? i was talking to Rob not you.

Apologies, for getting on the defence. But every time I see a post from you there's an insult thrown in like you have a severe case of 'bulliedatschoolitus'.



normally it is because an extremely stupid statement/question was brought up or because i was insulted for awhile and got tired of it.

Fair enough, I dont actually blame you, I did the same bofore Reach came out with the influx of idiots on the forums and lost my title on my other account due to a ban. It's gonna get alot worse when Halo 4 draws nearer unless they discover 343's forums.

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Also I found a youtube that Frankie itself said that no purple AND planet is not onyx as well.

No Purple

Also, additional evidence from Evolutions to back up my arguments:

halo evolutions page 506-507

"....But it was not long before the primitive nature of the brutes pulled their fighting cohesion apart and split their new power among several internecine struggles. The prophets had largely disappeared..... some elite commanders continued to fight the many scattered remnants of the former covenant wherever they could be found,but not all.

After six long years of this scattered war, elite power had begun to wane right along with their drive to fight.... but since the prophets controlled all of the major learnings that transformed forerunner gifts, the elites now largely lacked the understanding to build new facilities and weapons themselves. they steadily lost ships that they could not easily repair, let alone replace them. their time seemed to be running out. Page 517

... The covenant threat is lifted for the moment....but i doubt the agreement with the elites with the other covenant species."

There are no "covenant loyalist" there is no covenant. the elites not even at whole some of them are hunting down the reminds due to their honor being tarnished. The elites are running out of ships and are far too busy to have anything to do with halo 4.


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  • 08.17.2011 1:03 PM PDT

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A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

I can only pray.

  • 08.17.2011 1:05 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99
Also I found a youtube that Frankie itself said that no purple AND planet is not onyx as well.

No Purple

Also, additional evidence from Evolutions to back up my arguments:

halo evolutions page 506-507

"....But it was not long before the primitive nature of the brutes pulled their fighting cohesion apart and split their new power among several internecine struggles. The prophets had largely disappeared..... some elite commanders continued to fight the many scattered remnants of the former covenant wherever they could be found,but not all.

After six long years of this scattered war, elite power had begun to wane right along with their drive to fight.... but since the prophets controlled all of the major learnings that transformed forerunner gifts, the elites now largely lacked the understanding to build new facilities and weapons themselves. they steadily lost ships that they could not easily repair, let alone replace them. their time seemed to be running out. Page 517

... The covenant threat is lifted for the moment....but i doubt the agreement with the elites with the other covenant species."

There are no "covenant loyalist" there is no covenant. the elites not even at whole some of them are hunting down the reminds due to their honor being tarnished. The elites are running out of ships and are far too busy to have anything to do with halo 4.


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Nothing a good old fahioned retcon or ONI explanation wouldn't sort out.

  • 08.17.2011 1:07 PM PDT

make sense

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

huh? why would they change something they just established? i swear you people don't understand the point and meaning of a "retcon"; you only say that as a cop out for wanting something to be in.

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Posted by: grey101
huh? why would they change something they just established? i swear you people don't understand the point and meaning of a "retcon"; you only say that as a cop out for wanting something to be in.

Hell yeah, it would be the greatest cop out retcon out in history.

But seriously, you guys have made some great points and I admit defeat. But seriously Grey you need to chill out man i'ts just light hearted discussion.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: SalineEatMyShoe

Posted by: grey101
huh? why would they change something they just established? i swear you people don't understand the point and meaning of a "retcon"; you only say that as a cop out for wanting something to be in.

Hell yeah, it would be the greatest cop out retcon out in history.

But seriously, you guys have made some great points and I admit defeat. But seriously Grey you need to chill out man i'ts just light hearted discussion.


I am calm you only think i am upset because of my reputation. which still isn't accurate because i clearly announce when i am pissed.

  • 08.17.2011 1:24 PM PDT

That is so true my friend.

  • 08.17.2011 1:24 PM PDT

Honestly, I hope that they have Elites in multiplayer (unlikely) as well as/or PLAYABLE FORERUNNERS! It could work :/

  • 08.17.2011 1:24 PM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

You people seem to not understand that it would barely make any sense for the Covenant or UNSC to be in Halo 4 unless they take time (away from the main story) and show you what's going on elsewhere in the universe, which would be hardly relevant. Plus, time is precious. They'll most likely focus on the main story.

  • 08.17.2011 1:36 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99
Also I found a youtube that Frankie itself said that no purple AND planet is not onyx as well.

No Purple

Also, additional evidence from Evolutions to back up my arguments:

halo evolutions page 506-507

"....But it was not long before the primitive nature of the brutes pulled their fighting cohesion apart and split their new power among several internecine struggles. The prophets had largely disappeared..... some elite commanders continued to fight the many scattered remnants of the former covenant wherever they could be found,but not all.

After six long years of this scattered war, elite power had begun to wane right along with their drive to fight.... but since the prophets controlled all of the major learnings that transformed forerunner gifts, the elites now largely lacked the understanding to build new facilities and weapons themselves. they steadily lost ships that they could not easily repair, let alone replace them. their time seemed to be running out. Page 517

... The covenant threat is lifted for the moment....but i doubt the agreement with the elites with the other covenant species."

There are no "covenant loyalist" there is no covenant. the elites not even at whole some of them are hunting down the reminds due to their honor being tarnished. The elites are running out of ships and are far too busy to have anything to do with halo 4.


Credited to Grey.


About what point does he say "no purple" in the video? I just watched it, and the quote is either not there or I completely missed it, so would you mind giving the time around which the comment appears?

And why is that evidence? What makes you think that individual races would have to find the Legendary Planet to appear in the game or the trilogy? John isn't chained to the planet or anything, he can leave it if he has to, which I am sure he will at some point. Just because the two factions travel capabilities are limited in no way means that someone can't go and recruit them.

And how exactly does a small fraction of Elites hunting down Prophets and Brutes mean that the whole species is too busy to do anything?

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: raganok99
Also I found a youtube that Frankie itself said that no purple AND planet is not onyx as well.

No Purple

Also, additional evidence from Evolutions to back up my arguments:

halo evolutions page 506-507

"....But it was not long before the primitive nature of the brutes pulled their fighting cohesion apart and split their new power among several internecine struggles. The prophets had largely disappeared..... some elite commanders continued to fight the many scattered remnants of the former covenant wherever they could be found,but not all.

After six long years of this scattered war, elite power had begun to wane right along with their drive to fight.... but since the prophets controlled all of the major learnings that transformed forerunner gifts, the elites now largely lacked the understanding to build new facilities and weapons themselves. they steadily lost ships that they could not easily repair, let alone replace them. their time seemed to be running out. Page 517

... The covenant threat is lifted for the moment....but i doubt the agreement with the elites with the other covenant species."

There are no "covenant loyalist" there is no covenant. the elites not even at whole some of them are hunting down the reminds due to their honor being tarnished. The elites are running out of ships and are far too busy to have anything to do with halo 4.


Credited to Grey.


About what point does he say "no purple" in the video? I just watched it, and the quote is either not there or I completely missed it, so would you mind giving the time around which the comment appears?

And why is that evidence? What makes you think that individual races would have to find the Legendary Planet to appear in the game or the trilogy? John isn't chained to the planet or anything, he can leave it if he has to, which I am sure he will at some point. Just because the two factions travel capabilities are limited in no way means that someone can't go and recruit them.

And how exactly does a small fraction of Elites hunting down Prophets and Brutes mean that the whole species is too busy to do anything?


The vid was my fault because he got confused in what i was talking about, remember he can't hear.

The It isn't just a "small faction" coma the entire race is split into clans and factions and in complete disarray.


People fail to understand the deep hole the elites are in right now. I would compare them to the romans but they never recovered so the closest thing to the elites would be germans after WW2.

Which is a good point because you still had N@zis acting on motives.

  • 08.17.2011 1:45 PM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: raganok99
Also I found a youtube that Frankie itself said that no purple AND planet is not onyx as well.

No Purple

Also, additional evidence from Evolutions to back up my arguments:

halo evolutions page 506-507

"....But it was not long before the primitive nature of the brutes pulled their fighting cohesion apart and split their new power among several internecine struggles. The prophets had largely disappeared..... some elite commanders continued to fight the many scattered remnants of the former covenant wherever they could be found,but not all.

After six long years of this scattered war, elite power had begun to wane right along with their drive to fight.... but since the prophets controlled all of the major learnings that transformed forerunner gifts, the elites now largely lacked the understanding to build new facilities and weapons themselves. they steadily lost ships that they could not easily repair, let alone replace them. their time seemed to be running out. Page 517

... The covenant threat is lifted for the moment....but i doubt the agreement with the elites with the other covenant species."

There are no "covenant loyalist" there is no covenant. the elites not even at whole some of them are hunting down the reminds due to their honor being tarnished. The elites are running out of ships and are far too busy to have anything to do with halo 4.


Credited to Grey.


About what point does he say "no purple" in the video? I just watched it, and the quote is either not there or I completely missed it, so would you mind giving the time around which the comment appears?

And why is that evidence? What makes you think that individual races would have to find the Legendary Planet to appear in the game or the trilogy? John isn't chained to the planet or anything, he can leave it if he has to, which I am sure he will at some point. Just because the two factions travel capabilities are limited in no way means that someone can't go and recruit them.

And how exactly does a small fraction of Elites hunting down Prophets and Brutes mean that the whole species is too busy to do anything?

Lol' brilliantly put.
Thank you, I take back my doubt.

  • 08.17.2011 1:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
I can only pray.

This. It would really be the only reason for me to get the game, to see how the Sangheili evolve as a society after the Covenant and their relations to Humanity. The Forerunner story crap is of little consequence to me now after reading Primordium's summary.

  • 08.17.2011 2:58 PM PDT

Hey why can't there be Elites on the shield world Master Chief is heading to? We will never know until it actually comes out.

  • 08.17.2011 3:38 PM PDT