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and sure why not if I wanted to go that far sure now once i got that far everything would be white but i should be able and have the freedom to waise hours of my time going that far, Now im not saying I would go THAT far but you should be able to if u want

  • 08.18.2011 6:55 PM PDT

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OK. What's with this constant mention of white? How do you "explore" empty space? "Oh look I find some more nothing! And look over here! There's some more nothing piled in that corner made of nothing!" The Halo you see in the distance isn't real you know. It's a facade. That's how games work. They look real from the distance they are intended to be viewed from. That's why the barrier is there.

  • 08.18.2011 6:58 PM PDT

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its the point of ultimate exploration and freedom to do as you please. Im saying there should be no limit to the amount of items to be placed.

Or you could be creative and manage to make a good map with what they give you like thousands of other Reach players manage to do. If you want to do absolutely anything you want as much as you want, there's Garry's Mod.

Saying that something that exists that you didnt know about isnt ad hominim its a fact, get your logic terms right, try a dictionary.

Dude, I'm sure DJC knew just as many hidden areas as you did. Furthermore, you couldn't do anything in 99% of them because if you went more than an inch away from the "wall" when you went in a "hidden room" or "outside the map" you died. There's hidden areas abound in H:Reach, "and just because YOU didnt know as many as i did doesnt mean they didnt exist."

Have complete freedom to buil as you please.
No limit to items (such as the modded maps with thousands of grids)
no budget
complete exploration and freedom OUTSIDE of matchmaking.


Look at forge world. At most, you see 10-25% of forge world at one time in a matchmaking game. And I'd say about 10-25% of Forge World is never even used in Matchmaking. If that isn't "OUTSIDE of matchmaking" enough for you then you need to learn to be satisfied with what you have.

Also, the budget is meant to challenge the forger. To make you make due with what you have and make a really good map with a limit to what you can have on the map. The community forgers who made the forge world community matchmaking maps did a great job with these restrictions for the most part.

Limit to items. See above.

You can build as you please. Quite frankly if you cant build a great map with the budget and item limit given, you're a bad forger. Simple as that. People do it ALL the time.

And you should probably try to actually make an argument instead of just saying: Oh adhiminim here

Are you really that dumb? Read his post again and let's play a game. This game is called "Count How Many Times DavidJCobb Replied To An Excerpt Of Your Post With 'Ad Hominem' ". Ready? Go!

What did you get? I got 1. If you got more than 1. You lose.

or look at this over here, providing pointless verbal annoyance just to make the other side of an argument look unreliable.

Or you could look over your post and make sure it doesn't make you look stupid before DJC does that for you. (BTW, yes, I'm making DJC a thing. Deal with it.)

Im a lawyer. dont try to out logic me, it doesnt work.

But... but... but... he did... just now... weren't you there? I was there....

  • 08.18.2011 7:00 PM PDT

go play starwars battle front 2 or even i would love to show u a glitch on reach that has this, It hasnt been patched and no one knows about it send me a message and I would love to show you an example of mindless exploratory freedom

  • 08.18.2011 7:01 PM PDT

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No one knows about it? Because you just told EVERYONE about it. And I'm not interested in glitches, hacks, or mods. Never have been, never will be.

[Edited on 08.18.2011 7:05 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2011 7:03 PM PDT
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For a lawyer, I'm surprised both at the poor quality of your written english and your lack of understanding of the term "ad hominem." This is beside the point, however.

The way I see it, there is only a certain level of technical feasibility that can be assumed for a piece of technology. Sure it's technically possible to do these things (although, I might question myself about this point based on some of the things you're suggesting), but cost and time has to be taken into account for something that's going to be marketed to people. I don't want to pay $1000 for a game, no matter what "freedoms" it may enable.

You do realize that having no limit to items would require infinite computing power, which isn't only impossible, but also ridiculous. I suppose that such a game could be created, although, due to the infinite level of complexity, it would never actually be available to the public, and would be in development until the end of time...

Also, secret rooms are in Reach, just not in forge. The commemorative lab of Dr Halsey's in the Campaign level "The Package" springs to mind rather quickly. The notion of removing the kill boundaries (or not having them in the first place) doesn't bring to mind the concept of giving the player freedom, but rather, it makes me think that the game is unpolished and lacking an appropriate attention to detail. These boundaries are put in place for two reasons: firstly (and ironically) to retain the level of realism of the game space- it would look unrealistic to be floating in an infinite sea of white, for example, and secondly, to ensure that the game runs smoothly, something which is of the utmost importance for a good game.

While I find your ambitions admirable, you have to realize that the technical demands of what you propose simply are beyond what is within our capability to build today, or if not beyond our capability, far too expensive to properly implement. Also, and to be frank, what you propose is available already, just in more unpolished, incomplete games.

Posted by: Tanman567
its the point of ultimate exploration and freesom to do as you please. Im saying there should be no limit to the amount of items to be placed. Saying that something that exists that you didnt know about isnt ad hominim its a fact, get your logic terms right, try a dictionary. Have complete freedom to buil as you please.
No limit to items (such as the modded maps with thousands of grids)
no budget
complete exploration and freedom OUTSIDE of matchmaking.

And you should probably try to actually make an argument instead of just saying: Oh adhiminim here, or look at this over here, providing pointless verbal annoyance just to make the other side of an argument look unreliable. Im a lawyer. dont try to out logic me, it doesnt work.

  • 08.18.2011 7:06 PM PDT

really i just told everyone about it? what map is it on, where is it? I dont recall saying???

  • 08.18.2011 7:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tanman567
Im a lawyer. dont try to out logic me, it doesnt work.


You are aware that pretending to be a member of the judicial system is a criminal offense, correct?

  • 08.18.2011 7:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tanman567
really i just told everyone about it? what map is it on, where is it? I dont recall saying???


But now they know it exists. :3 And might I suggest you use the quote button.

  • 08.18.2011 7:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tanman567
Im a lawyer. dont try to out logic me, it doesnt work.


You are aware that pretending to be a member of the judicial system is a criminal offense, correct?

You do realize you're out logicing a lawyer, correct?

Logicing does not seem like a word. lol

  • 08.18.2011 7:11 PM PDT

Bren thank you for actually taking into account my desires for the game not just dismissing it as BS. I do see what you are saying. I know maybe not unlimited items but more, The ability to in forge go behind a cliff and make a weapons cache and only be able to get there via hidden teleporter. Im just saying the freedoms should be more. don't have permanent soft or hard kill boundaries in forge. now if they had the invisible walls of halo 3 on custom games but the ability to get behind them via teleporter in forge i don't see why they have to patch the game to end my fun.

  • 08.18.2011 7:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: Tanman567
Im a lawyer. dont try to out logic me, it doesnt work.


You are aware that pretending to be a member of the judicial system is a criminal offense, correct?

You do realize you're out logicing a lawyer, correct?

Logicing does not seem like a word. lol


I think the grammatically correct verbalization of that word in the progressive tense would be logicking. Thought chrome seems to think otherwise.

  • 08.18.2011 7:12 PM PDT

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Wrong forum, and you may want to post this in the Halo Waypoint threads and not here

  • 08.18.2011 7:13 PM PDT

and who said i was a judicial lawyer, i never said that. I could be corporate attorney or something else

  • 08.18.2011 7:14 PM PDT

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Hidden weapons cache? So just build a box with bloody guns inside and and hide the teleporter from your friends. You don't need to go outside the map to make cache of guns.

  • 08.18.2011 7:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tanman567
and who said i was a judicial lawyer, i never said that. I could be corporate attorney or something else

No you're not. Ignoring your earlier post's lack of grammar, your XBL Gamercard was no less atrocious.

[Edited on 08.18.2011 7:18 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2011 7:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tanman567
and who said i was a judicial lawyer, i never said that. I could be corporate attorney or something else


Or, more likely you're lying about the whole thing.

And lying about being any sort of attorney is still a criminal offense.

  • 08.18.2011 7:18 PM PDT

common sense is so uncommon its scary...


Posted by: Tanman567
Im a lawyer.


I hope to [insert almighty figure here] you are joking...

If that were true you would have at least read the forum "laws" and not posted something specific to Halo: Reach in the Bungie Community forum. Especially since Bungie no longer controls anything about Halo.

  • 08.18.2011 7:19 PM PDT

Key

I think ima just PM a ninja... this is getting stupid...

  • 08.18.2011 7:20 PM PDT

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